Internalized misogyny

Astroviridae · 2023-01-08T13:16:18+00:00

Listen, I get called a white supremacist despite being black. Don't put too much thought into it, ok.

SecretFeminine · 2023-01-08T17:51:48+00:00

I do think we see a lot of internalized misogyny here and do a good job to say “that’s not rpw”. How often do we see posts from women about how to submit to a man who has done nothing to prove himself reliable and respectable?

LadyAmalthea2000 · 2023-01-08T22:05:26+00:00

It’s tough. I am horrified by some of the posts in here where women talk about being great partners to men who appear to dislike them and are low value. It seems like some women here really are more masochists than misogynists haha

Pansy9000 · 2023-01-08T16:08:51+00:00

Internalized misogyny, pick me, go to therapy, low self esteem, abused... it never ends.

I'm perfectly happy to let feminists live their lives, if they extend the same courtesy. One of my best friends, one of the most inspiring women in my life, is actually quite feminist and the total opposite of a RPW, and we love and respect each others' differences! We learn a lot from each other having such drastically different perspectives, and it never harms our friendship. This is RARE. She helps me loosen the stick up my ass, and I help her see the value of slow living and strong relationships.

So, basically, I can appreciate that some women think feminist living is good for them. I may privately disagree, but I respect their qualia for what they are. It's unfortunate that the majority of them are so hostile towards our lifestyles. They act like feminism is some sort of universal sorority that every single woman must be a sister of, lest be cast out. It's not.

I had a coworker, probably in his 50s, tell me some of the most important advice of my life. He said: "you really have... something. It's just sort of a glow about your spirit, and your personality. Miserable people hate it, don't they?" I agreed. "Well, the enemy is going to see a little lady like you and do everything to tear her apart. I gave into their bullshit when I was your age, and it took me years to get my spirit back, so let those curses roll off like water on a duck's back."

I think about his words every day💕

Twilight_Rose99 · 2023-01-08T16:29:18+00:00

Feminists regularly hold internalized misogyny themselves. Believing that: Women are victims? We have no power? Killing ourselves for the corporate world is more valuable than building a fulfilling family structure? Femininity is vapid and weak? That’s much more hateful than anything we post about.

FiveSleepingOwls · 2023-01-08T11:31:28+00:00

Every time I see feminists

I don't care what feminists think.

Wife_and_Mama · 2023-01-08T15:14:47+00:00

I point out that telling me I'm too weak to form my own opinions because of the "patriarchy" isn't very empowering. Then I talk to someone else.

Plus_Maintenance1647 · 2023-01-08T17:53:38+00:00

How do you feel about this

Bwahahahahahaha

how do you counter such ridiculous statements?

If it's online, I step away and return to my real life. My real life makes me very happy.

I'm not sure when a RPW discussion would happen in person. But in the event that someone says I have "internalized misogyny," I would just smile and say I love being a woman, and it's nonsensical to hear that my happiness suggests I "hate" my own sex.

There's a time and place for a debate, which I'm open to if it's in good faith, but that remark is generally made in bad faith by angry women.

Protocol_Apollo · 2023-01-08T14:22:32+00:00

Don’t waste your time arguing with people over these new think terms.

You could be the best debater in the world, have all the facts, but they won’t be changing their mind.

Nobody really changes their mind through debate.

jenna_grows · 2023-01-09T08:13:08+00:00

Women don’t come up to me with that. I’m in a relationship with a man who loves and cares for me, it’s very obvious that I want to do the feminine things that I do, and I have a successful career. My dad loved and adored me.

My biggest difficulty in life is managing my ADHD and that has nothing to do with men and I manage it quite well even without meds so…

sunglasses90 · 2023-01-08T18:30:47+00:00

All I can say is that I’m incredibly happy and when I wake up everyday with my incredible fiancé in my beautiful home I’m just so thankful for the life I have and didn’t even know it was possible to be this happy.

Is it work? Yeah, being a traditional couple is work for both of us, but so is being non traditional with less gain in my opinion.

dogsmoking · 2023-01-08T21:22:40+00:00

I dont counter them cause their opinions have no bearing on the outcome of my life. Women are allowed to be feminist; that's something I wish RP women understood better. Neither path or mindset is better for absolutely everyone. I have super feminist friends who are great people as well as very traditional people whom I get along with too. I never understood the us vs them mentality. Most people just want happiness and fulfillment and there are many ways one can achieve that, whether it's through feminism or traditionalist lifestyles.

LeicaRedEye · 2023-01-09T16:27:12+00:00

Clapping back with such comments is just being an insecure busybody who is the actual misogynist. Only they attack women's choice to be feminine. What was for many years truly internal misogyny was the vilifying of hyper femininity, attacking the girly girls, hating the women who were very feminine, and wouldn't change to comply with society's pressure to become a neutral, spineless hybrid of a person.

franksheherbert · 2023-01-10T21:47:37+00:00

i mean, i do legitimately have internalized misogyny. in many ways this space has helped! but in some it has made it worse

inhaledpie4 · 2023-01-09T01:26:00+00:00

I want and am happy with myself and my relationships. Can they say the same?

sunlitroof · 2023-01-09T02:44:57+00:00

They're extremist and delusional. Thats literally it. They spent so much time in that online space (terminally online) anything outside of what they think a woman should think like, behave like, is instantly misogyny,sexism,pickme, etc. I just block them as I see the comments because they are a headache to see and even worse if you reply to them. I have never, ever heard anyone say anything like that in real life so its just the online extremists

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VasiliyZaitzev · 2023-01-08T23:59:49+00:00

It is a made-up propaganda term because our opponents’ viewpoints are not easily or well-defended based on facts. In a similar way, speech with which they disagree is automatically. “hate speech.”

For example, if a hippopotamus wants to claim that it is a gazelle, fine. We know that it is not a gazelle, but OK. Then there comes a point where the hippopotami want to force you to believe that they are gazelles. Why do they have to force you? Because you are equipped by nature with enough common sense to know that a hippopotamus is not a gazelle.

And so it goes.

EscapeInteresting882 · 2023-01-15T01:55:58+00:00

Chiming in with a slightly different view...

I'm drawn to this thread because the ability to discuss (I mostly lurk, so I observe the discussion) the truthful differences between men and women is refreshing! I grew up in an environment that was very toxically feminist and never learned how to show men appreciation and respect and that was really sad and create and awful divide and lack of connection for myself and those around me for a long time. That said, I have always been internally pretty honest about what's important to me when push comes to shove and at 21 I was like, "I need me a good man!" I found him FAST after that but still lived in a world where I couldn't realize and process just how important he was to me, how much I value him and all he does for me (and now our family) openly because iso much of our society disrespects men and that impacted my thinking. So I do find the truths here refreshing.

That said, I think the reason people say there is internalized misogyny here is because there is also internalized misogyny here. Because these truths are incomplete and being misused if both parties aren't actively treated with deep dignity. That is, it seems there is a tendency to use these differences to have power over one another, rather than to support each other. Basically, things here go too far at diminishing women to only youth and beauty and submission. Those are important and men value these things, for sure, so it's nice to see people being honest about that. But we are so much more and men are so much more than just their provider/alpha status.

I haven't yet found the perfect community of folks honoring differences and still encouraging formation of well rounded people, so I do like learning from here. I'm Christian and that certainly seems the right well-rounded direction!! Good luck, glad you found a community that you vibe with!

ThrowRAwoolymammoth · 2023-01-13T01:51:41+00:00

I think we’re the middle ground between insecure women who will submit and get walked over and treated like shit by a man & the hyper-independent toxic feminist women who think “all men are trash”. I think we understand that you need to be a good woman to get a good man and a man needs to be a good man to get a good woman.

Title	Internalized misogyny
Author	Krouser1522
Upvotes	43
Comments	38
Date	January 8, 2023 10:43 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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