Are you really strong?

abdada · 2016-05-27T21:58:14+00:00

awesome post and definitely appropriate for this sub.

I use strengthlevel dot com every time I lift. GREAT site.

There is no possible way I will EVER OHP 1x my bodyweight. Had to go microplates just to push through plateaus.

irateMD · 2016-05-28T00:44:40+00:00

Symmetric strength is fun for looking at strength standards, though it obviously doesn't take differences in body shape into account.

MRPguy · 2016-05-28T21:38:19+00:00

I disagree with some of this post when it comes to SMV and women. It is entirely possible to build larger muscles and look jacked, but be relatively weak. One has to do with increasing the size of the muscle fibers, the other with increasing the number of muscle fibers. See sarcoplasmic hypertrophy vs myofibrillar hypertrophy.

A lean body builder can be jacked and not capable of moving much weight in compound lifts. This may be due to poor CNS adaptation as well as focus on isolation movements.

Would a woman know the difference? No. She will fuck a 10% body fat bodybuilder or a 10% body fat guy who can bench and squat and press with the best of them.

Again, women want to see the end game and don't give a shit about the process.

What do I recommend? Compound lifts, of course. I want to look strong and be strong. I believe that form follows function.

MRPCowboy · 2016-05-28T04:01:47+00:00

don't have enough SMV to AA/AM

Care to expand on this because I'm surely misunderstanding what you mean and getting a good chuckle out of it.

Certainly you've read the prerequisites? You've actually read NMMNG and WISNIFG?

Cam_Winston21 · 2016-05-29T14:42:19+00:00

If you want your SMV to rise due to muscle mass (aesthetics) then how much you can lift for 6-12 reps with strict form is the way to go. If you want to lift X for one rep, then you may or may not increase your overall muscle mass. They aren't mutually exclusive but they are not directly correlated, either.

2gunsgetsome · 2016-05-27T21:57:16+00:00

Here's a related article on how your different lifts should relate to each other in order to achieve balanced strength development: https://www.t-nation.com/training/know-your-ratios-destroy-weaknesses

ThorMonkey · 2016-05-27T23:26:27+00:00

Are these 1RMs?

Persaeus · 2016-05-28T01:17:24+00:00

Totally agree with your grading level relative to gaining attraction from random women; and thereby applying dread. It was not until I was above the STFU levels that heads really started to turn.

Some1son · 2016-05-28T02:45:37+00:00

Am I the only one going cross-eyed trying to make sense of his numbers? There are no spaces and looks like an IP address...

Pastelitomaracucho · 2016-05-28T11:16:53+00:00

I just follow skinnymom videos on YouTube

UEMcGill · 2016-05-28T16:53:17+00:00

Be careful, you'll start doing Olympic lifts and then your fucked.

"Wait, he can snatch 265, fuck I should be able to do that..."

captain_my_captain22 · 2016-05-28T18:31:34+00:00

Thanks for posting this! Great place to set some goals.

yldwhisper · 2016-05-31T22:06:14+00:00

Thanks, great to see those in perspective, although ouch - lifting for 8 months and still at the STFU stage :P, mind you starting to get to the 'Decent' rank, although I don't know what my 1RM are, all mine are 5x5s - should have all of those reached by the end of my madcows routine.

RPAlternate42 · 2016-06-02T06:29:40+00:00

Squat = 1.3
Bench = 1.2
OHP = 0.72
Deadlift = 1.62

Progress is always had, though. IMprovement is the game.

I also do BJJ 4 hours a week and it may affect the day following on some lifts.

RPAlternate42 · 2016-06-02T06:49:15+00:00

I've grappled with aesthetic BB types: even guys 30 lbs heavier than me fold like wet paper. Sarcoplasmic hypertrophy makes muscles big, but unless they have the motor neuron behind it, it's functionally worthless.

sarcoplasmic hypertrophy is the increase of size in the muscle cells; the cells increase in size because they are loaded with more fluid to store more myoglobin and glycogen. This sort of growth happens with high-rep, moderate-to-low intensity. Think sets of 12 or higher

I've also grappled with powerlifters. Even with no grappling technique, they move me like I'm a small child. I'm near 200 lbs. They can't submit me, but they make me work. They train for Myofibrillar hypertrophy and strength skill; they have the muscle mass and the neurological system to back it up. IN short, power lifters are strong.

Myofibrillar hypertrophy is the growth of additional cells to increase the fiber size (not the number of fibers.) This sort of growth happens with low-rep, high intensity work: think 5x5 or sets of 8.

Additionally, powerlifters are training strength skill... which is increasing the efficiency and ability of the fibers to contract. This is done through CNS training 3 rep or less at maximum effort: think 3x3 or 3x1.

However both are incredibly poorly trained in cardio ability. Powerlifters tend to poop out faster in a grappling match, but for that first few seconds...hold the fuck on.

The best fighters are the extreme mesomorphs: long, lean, and muscular, but not overly large. Just look at the heavyweight-or-lighter UFC guys; literally the Brad Pitt from Fight Club look. Those bodies are developed specifically for fighting; they are strong, but not extremely, and they are fast. They look good, but they won't be winning any BB contests.

For RP sexual strategy, aim for the fighter look (minus the missing teeth.) Train a mix of low-rep (sets of 5, 3, and 1) skill work on the big-4 (squat, OHP, DL, and BP), medium-rep (sets of 6-10) work on accessory lifts (rows, dips, pull downs, additional squat, BP, and OHP work) and high rep (sets of 12 or more) work on the small muscles (biceps, triceps, deltoids, calves... if you want. I can't get mine to do anything.)

WhiteTrashKiller · 2016-05-27T22:48:47+00:00

IMHO there is at least 10% extra weight hidden in everyones 1RM. I am a novice at best, but at 5' nothing and 169lbs I broke 200lbs BP 1RM, 235lbs dead 3x, only 165lbs squat(L5 disc is damaged and cannot afford for it to slip). I've noticed in the gym, guys tend to muscle the weight, they wreck their form and either get hurt or stay at a plateu. By engaging your secondary muscle groups, it stabilizes your frame and will help push through to a new max....

In order to get used to doing it, I had to go back down in weight and correct my form and slowly add the weight back in.

If your gym doesn't have a trap bar put a suggestion in to get one. It is easier on your spine. You can also use dumbbells for deadlifts as the weight gets distributed to the sides and wont pull you forward.

Use hooks or straps, they will save your wrists.

Weight matters too, as you cut and drop down in weight you're gonna see you lifts go down

Level	Squats	Bench	Overhead Press	Deadlift
Great	2.5	2	1	2.75
Good	2	1.5	0.8	2
Decent	1.5	1.25	0.5	1.5
STFU	1	0.75	0.4	1

Title	Are you really strong?
Author	mrprider
Upvotes	23
Comments	40
Date	May 27, 2016 9:48 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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