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| 2 | Why is it commonplace/acceptable for women to pressure men to join their Onlyfans?They deceive some men into a false sense of intimacy and familiarity | /r/MensRights | 19/09/22 07:22 AM |
| -20 | I sent 100 applications as a man and a woman. It's MUCH better being a womanmeanwhile the shameless misogynist pieces of shit I know from school never mix with the types of women who would call them out on their appalling views and just get reinforced by their friends and oftentimes family | /r/MensRights | 13/09/22 04:21 AM |
| 2 | Is it ever better to leave them wanting more?I've got some cialis but last time I took it by myself just to see what happened it gave me a splitting headache so I'm hesitant now. How do you get to the point where you're giving her a massage thouhg? Is that part of your foreplay? I've got a virbating cock ring that I got on a whim last year and haven't used but I think I don't think I want to whip that out on the first time with a new partner lol My routine is kind of kissing --> caressing --> kissing down her body / caressing her boobs -->… | /r/seduction | 11/03/22 07:04 AM |
| 1 | What do these women want?Sit in my apartment masturbating furiously to depraved pornography and occasionally going to the mailbox. Nah I just think i either come across as too friendly and platonic or too forward...I need to find a sweet point in the middle | /r/seduction | 11/03/22 06:59 AM |
| 2 | What do these women want?Would you do that with foreplay and sex as well? I usually assume that if we're kissing on the couch or something and she's enjoying it then I'll continue until she indicates otherwise but maybe I should ask consent there as well just to help put my mind at ease that she's not feeling pressured. | /r/seduction | 11/03/22 06:57 AM |
| 2 | What do these women want?At first I thought this was on the brink of being a bit misogynistic but frankly it's true in my experience...most women are dumb in that their senses of humour and interests and passions aren't very well developed. I know a load of absolutely idiotic guys as well, but you're right, maybe I'll let those guys take the girls and they can bicker about fictional reality tv romances and have 4 kids with misspelt names then divorce. Women who are genuinely interesting, attractive, interested in me and… | /r/seduction | 11/03/22 06:40 AM |
| 2 | What do these women want?I usually ask before a kiss by saying something liek "hypothetically if I leaned in to kiss you right now how would you react?" or "time like this I wish I didn't have a no kissing until marriage rule" or some shit and usually it precipitates a kiss. With physical touch I'm a bit shy. I'll hug them when I meet them and touch them on the arm when we're talking but I'm not one of those guys who's touching all over a girl in public. I don't even like physical touch (think I'm lowkey autistic) so I … | /r/seduction | 11/03/22 06:35 AM |
| 1 | What do these women want?It seems like when I try to take things slowly and get to know a girl and make her comfortable she ends up getting a bit bored lol Sometimes it feels like I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't | /r/seduction | 11/03/22 06:33 AM |
| 1 | What do these women want?How would you transition into flirting? It seems like some guys have 2 modes: one where they're platonic and one where they're flirty and sexual, I think I do most my flirting in normal conversation with the tone of my voice and eye contact, but I'm not great at it | /r/seduction | 11/03/22 06:31 AM |
| 1 | What do these women want?What if you don't know if you want a relationship or not until you get to know them better? | /r/seduction | 11/03/22 06:28 AM |
| 1 | What do these women want?I've always though push pull felt unnatural and unnecessary but maybe I should consider it. I don't think I would respond positively toward someone going hot and cold like that, especially if it seems planned. I'd probably call them out on trying to play some silly mind games | /r/seduction | 11/03/22 06:18 AM |
| 3 | Is it ever better to leave them wanting more?I think the knowledge that I have a dysfunctional dick on account of my antidepressant medication is honestly poisoning my wellspring of confidence, because I'm not even certain that I can give her a good time. I guess I can use my fingers and my tongue, but even there I'm a bit rusty. Although I can still offer fun company, good laughs, some free cocktails from my home bar etc which is worth something. | /r/seduction | 11/03/22 06:14 AM |
| 1 | What do these women want?Doing what I want doesn't seem to get me fucked very often but yeah I prefer this attitude | /r/seduction | 11/03/22 06:01 AM |
| 2 | What do these women want?Do you think girls determine really early on whether they want an orbiter or a guy they actually intend to be with? Perhaps even before they've met you? | /r/seduction | 10/03/22 09:12 AM |
| 4 | What do these women want?One thing I'm never sure of is how far to escalate I know it should be obvious by how they're responding and many people will advise you to escalate all the way if you can, but I've fucked it up with some girls who seemed great by trying to escalate too soon or at inappropriate times. Some of my female friends for instance have a no sex till 3rd date rule and if the guy is push they'll drop him (or so they say) How do you know the sweet spot? I sometimes think it's better to leave her wanting mo… | /r/seduction | 10/03/22 09:10 AM |
| 4 | What do these women want?Would you mind offering a few practical examples of how to build attraction? I've read books and watched videos but it still eludes me. There's so much contradicting advice out there that it ends up confusing me more. | /r/seduction | 10/03/22 09:05 AM |
| -2 | Can being platonic ever work in your favour?Have you never known any couples who met as friends and then progressed when they had built a trust in each other? Sure it might get you friendzoned, but it can still work - my 2 best friends met their partners that way | /r/seduction | 08/03/22 07:39 AM |
| 1 | “Fake it till you make it” and “Women can tell when you’re being fake and it puts them off”I mean I'm on medication that makes me dick barely work and I'm rusty as hell so I don't want her thinking I'm a sex god and then being completely disappointed. But I can see how of course being confident is attractive. There has to be a balance though | /r/seduction | 08/03/22 07:38 AM |
| 1 | “Fake it till you make it” and “Women can tell when you’re being fake and it puts them off”what's a practical example of how you would fake confidence and experience? | /r/seduction | 08/03/22 06:55 AM |
| 0 | “Fake it till you make it” and “Women can tell when you’re being fake and it puts them off”didn't that feel exhausting though? Whenever I feel like I'm not being authentic I get a feeling of disgust and discomfort in my chest, so I could never use any lines I read or say anything which didn't feel natural | /r/seduction | 08/03/22 06:31 AM |
| 2 | “Fake it till you make it” and “Women can tell when you’re being fake and it puts them off”Is this the process that most people go through or are most people just blindly self confident? | /r/seduction | 08/03/22 06:28 AM |
| 1 | “Fake it till you make it” and “Women can tell when you’re being fake and it puts them off”At what point does it begin to feel natural? I had imposter syndrome at my previous job for several years, so I can't imagine it being different with women | /r/seduction | 08/03/22 06:27 AM |
| 1 | Can being platonic ever work in your favour?I'm the most anti-religious person you'll ever meet so that's not an option. What would you say are a few fairly safe ways of sexually escalating that wouldn't seem too out of character with my natural vibe of being a bit aloof and reserved? I guess it's just eye contact, some touch and the usuals? | /r/seduction | 08/03/22 06:24 AM |
| 1 | Fun and flirty topics, questions or games to spice up a date...?Last time I tried to play never have I ever I asked a question that was too far and she shut down and it killed the vibe, I feel like that games too risky now lol I'm also not a naturally touchy or playful kind of guy which doesn't help. I'm pretty funny but it's in a brutal dark humour sort of way, not a cute playful way. I want to have fun with it but I'm not sure where their boundaries are and I feel like I'm bound to cross them if I get too carried away. | /r/seduction | 04/03/22 11:58 AM |
| 4 | Fun and flirty topics, questions or games to spice up a date...?A limp, shrunken penis that looks decidedly like a defeated slug | /r/seduction | 04/03/22 05:02 AM |
| -1 | Fun and flirty topics, questions or games to spice up a date...?That's the most socially inept thing I've ever heard. What do you mean just say 'no'? | /r/seduction | 04/03/22 05:00 AM |
| 1 | Anyone else find that you're either really into someone or not into them at all?Well see I think it actually backfires sometimes because it can make me come across as more intensely interested in someone, and apparently that's unattractive because that must mean I don't have many options blah blah blah...the whole game is silly as hell when you think about it. The fact that players do well by coming across as indifferent is ridiculous when you think about it | /r/seduction | 02/03/22 03:16 AM |
| 4 | Anyone else find that you're either really into someone or not into them at all?How into them do you need to be before you're literally into them? If you think 'she's quite cute, and she seems quite friendly - I wouldn't go out of my way to fuck her but I don't think it would be an awful time either' would that be enough reason to go ahead with it or do you need to be blown away by her looks and her personality? I think the time, energy, risk of pregnancy, STD, social repercussion etc also makes me a bit hessitant to fuck someone I'm bot feeling intense attraction towards. | /r/seduction | 01/03/22 07:06 AM |
| 1 | Having male friends is absolutely KEYYeah that attitude is more magnetic, but it's a bit of a facade because I don't even like bars/clubs so usually the only reason I'm out is to try to endear myself with women...but I have to act as though that isn't my motive. The nights when I've had the most success are the nights when I genuinely haven't gone out looking to get girls e.g. I really want to see a certain DJ or it's a friends birthday and we're going from bar to bar or I've taken ecstasy and just want to dance - I haven't fucked … | /r/seduction | 01/03/22 05:42 AM |
| 4 | Having male friends is absolutely KEYNot only that but besides from places like bars/clubs which I hate for other reasons, most girls dart their eyes away and try to look aloof, probably because they're sick of guys pestering them but it creates a barrier that can really throw your game off because you feel as though you're interrupting them | /r/seduction | 01/03/22 05:39 AM |
| 1 | Having male friends is absolutely KEYI'm 6'4 and fit, I'm sure it helps a lot but I've still never had a girl come up and hit on me as you might expect. | /r/seduction | 01/03/22 03:56 AM |
| 96 | Having male friends is absolutely KEYsingle sociable male friends who will help wingman you and won't get jealous and aren't that much better looking than you | /r/seduction | 01/03/22 03:55 AM |
| 3 | Having male friends is absolutely KEYI'm glad things have fallen in your favour but this is going to give people false hope that if you just front up at a bar or hang around with a friend who has a girlfriend, girls are going to start coming out the woodwork and throwing themselves at you... unless you're extremely good looking I don't think it works like that | /r/seduction | 01/03/22 03:51 AM |
| 1 | Fair to say that if your only reason for going out is to meet women you're probably not going to have a great time?so basically walking up to a girl and complimenting her or literally asking her out to a drink right away? I'm too old for college campuses I think (later 20s) and our universities are online this semester so there's barely anyone there. Plus I live in Australia and the vibe isn't the same as it is in America- people generally don't just hang out and socialise on campus all day I might try the beach more | /r/seduction | 28/02/22 05:36 AM |
| 1 | Fair to say that if your only reason for going out is to meet women you're probably not going to have a great time?Which sort of places do you go to cold approach? And what do you say? Last time I tried to cold approach people I couldn't believe how unfriendly they were, and they acted as though I was trying to convert them to scientology when I was just trying to have a friendly conversation | /r/seduction | 28/02/22 03:09 AM |
| 1 | I can make girls laugh and think... but not feelI mean social skills are really just pandering to people's melodramatic behaviour in this case no? | /r/seduction | 20/02/22 11:33 AM |
| 1 | I can make girls laugh and think... but not feelBesides eye contact and some touching I'm not sure what else I can do though besides being like "So... would you rather laugh every time you orgasm or orgasm every time you laugh' or some attempt to get us talking about something sexual. I never really overhear guys conversations when they're getting more intimate with women, so I'm not sure if they're actually talking about sexual stuff or not, or whether it's necessary to. | /r/seduction | 20/02/22 06:42 AM |
| 1 | I'm convinced that women have a 6th senseOpen mindedness - being non judgemental, considering other perspectives, being open to new experiences, not defaulting to silly traditions or insular worldviews Empathy - striving to understand other people's point of view and emotion rather than being narcissistic If those are horrible I'm curious what your core values are? | /r/seduction | 18/02/22 12:07 PM |
| 1 | I'm convinced that women have a 6th senseI like that approach, altho given that I'm only attracted to a minority of women physically that really narrows things down. I guess it's necessary for a long term relationship though. I'd say my core values are genuine open mindedness and empathy, not something as tangible like being extremely career driven (which is often an instantiation of insecurity more than virtue) - these qualities are sometimes a little more difficult to detect in someone as they can't just be discovered in a single con… | /r/seduction | 18/02/22 08:34 AM |
| 1 | What can we learn from Pete Davidson?Pete Davidson is an above average looking, funny, famous comedian and actor. Why the fuck are people losing their minds that he's dated some slightly above average looking famous women? | /r/seduction | 18/02/22 05:54 AM |
| 5 | What can we learn from Pete Davidson?This always sounds fantastic on paper but gets me nowhere in person (well, at least I'm being authentic, but it doesn't seem to allure any women) | /r/seduction | 18/02/22 05:53 AM |
| 1 | What sort of stuff do you talk about as you're getting intimate with someone?But at what point would you go from say having a chat about cocktails or music to whispering provocative things in her ear? Sometimes if the girl is really into it that bridge is quite natural, but sometimes I'm not sure how to go from vibing with a girl to actually being sexual. I guess that's where physical touch, eye contact, speaking more slowly etc come in? | /r/seduction | 15/02/22 09:56 AM |
| 1 | How do you pull someone at a festival or daytime social event?How do you define the race in that analogy? I've read (too much, hasn't really helped) but got some real life experience a well, I've just never really connected with women intimately at something like a daytime social event. | /r/seduction | 15/02/22 09:53 AM |
| 2 | How do you pull someone at a festival or daytime social event?Yeah that ain't me so I think I'll just stick to getting a number / cold approaches and setting up a date But I can see why (certain) girls would be enticed by your confidence and carefree attitude | /r/seduction | 15/02/22 09:33 AM |
| 2 | Does kino always feel forced?I wonder if those guys who it comes naturally too really did have families who were all about the hugging and kissing and where it was almost offensive not to be | /r/seduction | 15/02/22 07:03 AM |
| 1 | What sort of stuff do you talk about as you're getting intimate with someone?Damn it's going to require a rewire for me to feel comfortable with that since I hate public displays of affection and getting sexual around other people lol | /r/seduction | 15/02/22 04:43 AM |
| 1 | OLD feels impossible when you're unphotogenicI've realised that female friends often have photo shoots like before they go out when they're looking prettied up they'll spend about 15 minutes taking photos I hate it, and hate what social media has done to society, but it's necessary if you want to succeed with online dating. | /r/seduction | 15/02/22 04:27 AM |
| 1 | First time going out to a club and I went solo. Absolutely unreal experience. Hopefully you can take what I did and apply it to your own life!I can't believe I read that gargantuan wall of text, but also good job son I've felt a vague urge to do this lately, but I naturally hate dancing and loud crowded environments (it really triggers my adhd) so that rules out the night game entirely But maybe I should challenge myself more | /r/seduction | 14/02/22 04:44 AM |
| 1 | Rant: I don't see the point of doing night gameAs someone who hates dancing but loves deep chats about life, I feel like I'm almost allergic to clubs (unless I'm on drugs or I love the DJ) ... which sucks because I'm sure there's some fun to be had with it, but it's just not for me and never has been Do you have any tips for day game? And by social circle game I seem to have only ever really pulled when I was invited into a social group I didn't know all that well - when I'm with my close friend group I seem to assume the same role I did in … | /r/seduction | 13/02/22 11:31 AM |
| 1 | Rant: I don't see the point of doing night gameYeah but that happens maybe once every 3 or 4 months, and if I'm really there for another purpose e.g. to see my fav DJ or celebrate with a friend I'm usually not even wanting to focus on women | /r/seduction | 13/02/22 11:28 AM |
| 2 | OLD feels impossible when you're unphotogenicBefore I tried OLD I would've laughed and said that's an insane level of effort...but actually yeah I think that's necessary, because I NEVER seem to be in any photos at social events and I don't want to be the guy to stop the show and try to take 100 photos | /r/seduction | 13/02/22 11:25 AM |
| 2 | What sort of stuff do you talk about as you're getting intimate with someone?I agree with that comment about how there's no substitute for experience but the fact that some women get bored if you don't try to kiss them in the bar whilst others will get really uncomfortable makes me apprehensive you know. I guess the conversation doesn't need to be that sexual for us to kiss and escalate | /r/seduction | 13/02/22 06:42 AM |
| 1 | What sort of stuff do you talk about as you're getting intimate with someone?I meant more like whilst you're at a social event not whilst you're alone doing foreplay, or is that what you meant? What sort of things are we talking about here? Like eating her out and pounding her? | /r/seduction | 13/02/22 06:39 AM |
| 2 | Should I approach girls even if ...a lot of guys here would say that's the least sexy setting and a good way to get friendzoned, but since I'm looking for something longer term anyway I think if we can't even enjoy getting coffee and hanging out at the park then they probably aren't right for me anyway | /r/seduction | 11/02/22 05:03 AM |
| 1 | Best dating app?If I were only to use one ever again (preferably none) it would be Hinge. It's the most 'classy' and although it doesn't have as many women as Tinder and Bumble, they're generally actually willing to talk and get to know you/meet up, and there's way less sex workers/scammers | /r/seduction | 11/02/22 03:54 AM |
| 0 | Should I approach girls even if ...What are some really low cost/free date ideas btw? | /r/seduction | 11/02/22 03:52 AM |
| 1 | Does sex really ever 'just happen'?How do I get women to wander into my backyard and ask to sit on me? | /r/seduction | 10/02/22 08:41 AM |
| 5 | Does sex really ever 'just happen'?What sort of situations? I assume clubs after midnight and tinder? | /r/seduction | 10/02/22 08:40 AM |
| 1 | Does sex really ever 'just happen'?But there's still a lot of decisions you have to make... should you go in for the kiss? Should you escalate here or take her somewhere else? What excuse can you make for her to come home? Should you try to talk about sex to get an idea of what she likes or could that turn her off? If she's hesitant should you keep trying or move on? | /r/seduction | 10/02/22 08:39 AM |
| 1 | Does sex really ever 'just happen'?That's very true It's probably been a year or so since I've been in a situation like that where it could just happen. And I guess with dates there's obviously more forethought so even if things movie really quickly they don't just happen. | /r/seduction | 10/02/22 08:37 AM |
| 1 | Does sex really ever 'just happen'?But if they did for everyone this subreddit wouldn't need to exist | /r/seduction | 10/02/22 02:48 AM |
| 1 | Does sex really ever 'just happen'?That's every dad's fantasy. Did the mother make sure the kids weren't watching Also sounds fucking uncomfortable | /r/seduction | 10/02/22 02:46 AM |
| 3 | Does sex really ever 'just happen'?See the ball doesn't roll smoothly for me. Let's say we've connected quite well in the last half an hour, we move in closer, maybe our legs are touching now. I know that pretty soon I should go in for a kiss. I usually ruin it by bringing up some boring topics that kill the mood, but what do you talk about when you're getting intimate? Do you have to be making the conversation sexual as well or isn't that necessary? And let's say we've just kissed. What then? How do you keep escalating if you're… | /r/seduction | 10/02/22 02:06 AM |
| 3 | Does sex really ever 'just happen'?I've never met up with a girl who's that forward Can I ask, what's it like when they come over? Do you bother making small talk about topics? Are you talking about sexual stuff right away? Are you basically just waiting for a moment to start kissing then go from there? And what's it like after you've had sex if you barely know them? Do you call them an Uber or let them stay over? | /r/seduction | 10/02/22 01:58 AM |
| 1 | Does sex really ever 'just happen'?I guess I rarely get to that point where they're that interested in me then lol But also, I don't go out that much at night, and you're rarely gonna have girls coming onto you like that in a daytime event without alcohol and stuff involved | /r/seduction | 10/02/22 01:54 AM |
| 34 | Does sex really ever 'just happen'?It's fucking silly that this is still the case in 2022 'Hey, let's head back to my place so I can show you that funny show I was telling you about (See: fuck your brains out over the kitchen counter)' 'Ooh haha yeah sounds good (see: thank god he didn't just mention sex or my misguided sense of social stigma and morality would prevent me from saying yes)" It's actually one of the things that annoys me the most about game and causes it to feel like a big stupid charade | /r/seduction | 10/02/22 01:52 AM |
| 1 | Does sex really ever 'just happen'?Was a large amount of alcohol and/or drugs involved? Otherwise I don't see how it just happens unless the girl threw herself at you | /r/seduction | 10/02/22 01:48 AM |
| 2 | What the hell am I missing here?I know this post sounds conceited as shit, but I was trying to be objective. And I know women aren't always looking for someone who's tall, muscular etc, but that was more to highlight how there must be something I'm doing wrong, because it shouldn't really be those other areas holding me back | /r/seduction | 09/02/22 05:12 AM |
| 3 | I can't do it, I'm giving up, and accepting this as my reality forever.No, they're really not. I used to be a bodybuilder and women never threw themselves at me But it definitely helps | /r/seduction | 09/02/22 04:03 AM |
| 2 | I can't do it, I'm giving up, and accepting this as my reality forever.Give up with meeting women for a while But don't give up on life. Dating and fucking is just one aspect of life - and one that gets blown way out of proportion. It doesn't define your worth - think about all the piece of shit junkies and degenerate charlatan business wankers and abusive husbands having sex and getting women, you wouldn't say they're more worthwhile people. And it won't make you happy either, that's up to you. | /r/seduction | 09/02/22 04:02 AM |
| 1 | My journey into inner game has completely changed my life and has made dating 10X easier. Taking a solo vacation is a paradigm shift internally.I actually prefer doing stuff solo...I just struggle to escalate things sexually with women I meet lol | /r/seduction | 09/02/22 02:37 AM |
| 16 | What kinds of people are in the same "circles" as Instagram models?These types are counterintuitively the most insecure I think because they know their value is entirely dependent on their looks, which can be fragile And yeah they never really develop much of a personality. I literally don't even know what to talk about with some of these girls - they seem to have no knowledge, no interest in much at all All up, the juice isn't worth the squeeze | /r/seduction | 06/02/22 07:49 AM |
| 3 | What's a man to do?I fucking hate this whole courtship charade tbh | /r/seduction | 05/02/22 04:29 PM |
| 1 | Am I making this harder than it has to be?oh it's that easy, what was I worried about | /r/seduction | 04/02/22 12:47 PM |
| 1 | When you see the glimmer fade from her eyesI think at this point it's probably the only way, but I guess it can be done without just saying 'i really fucking like you' more like dropping them some sincere compliments and physical touch and stuff | /r/seduction | 04/02/22 01:15 AM |
| 1 | When you see the glimmer fade from her eyesBut what if the reason she's lost interest is because you've probably been too ambiguous and reserved about your attraction to her so she's decided that you're probably not into her so she's not going to get invested in you? | /r/seduction | 04/02/22 01:13 AM |
| 1 | When you see the glimmer fade from her eyesMy approach with shit tests is just to play it down like if they make a comment about how they saw a hot guy at the beach I'll say something like 'Oh was that you staring at me?' or something stupid. I don't always think they're as calculated as the pick up community makes them sound - sometimes it's just a comment they make which certain guys might get defensive towards and say something like 'well know you're with a better looking guy so forget about him' which indicates insecurity and possibl… | /r/seduction | 04/02/22 01:11 AM |
| 12 | Some insights from a big time playerSome of them are exaggerating and making excuses but maybe some really did just realise that there's more to a longterm relationship and focused on finding someone they really vibed with? People tend to assume that if you're not with a conventionally hot girl it's because you couldn't be - whereas I've always prefer girls who are kind of attractive in an unconventional way that many guys wouldn't see as being generic attractive. These girls tend to have more interesting personalities too in my e… | /r/seduction | 01/02/22 10:27 AM |
| 1 | Am I making this harder than it has to be?It's just funny because I agree but I know some fucking dull morons who do well with women because they're good looking and they have a childlike energy that apparently some women love (or maybe just women in their early 20s) What's your advice for approaching a girl out at the shops or something? I can never think of a compelling reason to justify approaching them but I know when I'm 85 laying in hospital dying from cancer I'll regret not taking more risks in life | /r/seduction | 31/01/22 04:10 AM |
| 1 | Am I making this harder than it has to be?Strangely I actually see dates as being easier because I go into them with the assumption that she already likes me and I'm not going to have to compete with some other dude standing next to me, whilse bars and stuff can feel more like I'm vying for her attention. I think I need to change that mindset because it's probably causes me to come across as less fun | /r/seduction | 31/01/22 04:07 AM |
| 2 | Am I making this harder than it has to be?That's what I thought. People tell you it doesn't really matter what you say, but when you're a fucking stranger then that's basically the only thing they have to go by besides your appearance and body language (which are more important but still) | /r/seduction | 31/01/22 03:28 AM |
| 1 | Am I making this harder than it has to be?Do you find that in certain states things just come to you without having to think, whilst other times say when you've been spending time alone it's like pulling teeth just trying to think of almost anything to say? | /r/seduction | 31/01/22 03:27 AM |
| 1 | Where the fuck do most guys learn this stuff?Yeah of course Longterm fulfilment is the aim, and sleeping with women isn't nothing but it's a pretty short term bout of pleasure/fulfilment that eventually leaves you a bit feeling empty if anything, so it's extremely important that it's just one of several pillars that hold up a well balanced life, plus that will naturally lead one to come across as less desperate and outcome dependent. So I'm all for inspiring a more Buddhist philosophy of not expecting too much from life and learning to rid… | /r/seduction | 30/01/22 06:05 AM |
| 1 | Where the fuck do most guys learn this stuff?Good stuff. You know I've actually had most my luck with women when I've been working or unavailable in some way - when I'm just another schmuck in the club looking to beguile my way into their pants is when I seem to do anything but that. I think girls love the idea of hitting on a guy at work and you've also got the authority angle to leverage I wouldn't mind working in a bar again, but the last 2 bartending gigs I had I was treated like shit by cuntbag managers so I walked out midway through … | /r/seduction | 29/01/22 12:20 PM |
| 1 | Where the fuck do most guys learn this stuff?Yeah good point. I know women aren't angels | /r/seduction | 29/01/22 07:40 AM |
| 1 | Where the fuck do most guys learn this stuff?Yeah I mean that's the ultimate pathway to balanced life and happiness anyway Buddhism teaches us to be more content with less and to roll with the punches in life; ideally we shouldn't need women to make us content. It's easier said than done once the loneliness or jealousy sets in of course I think some meditation and reading of philosophy would do a lot of people here some good though. A neighbour of mine was a huge player and he's slept with over 200 women and he said it got to the point whe… | /r/seduction | 29/01/22 07:26 AM |
| 1 | Where the fuck do most guys learn this stuff?Well my dad used to pull tons of women and was involved in a few gangs and stuff when he was younger. We never got on though, and he treated mum like shit, in fact I held a knife to this throat last him last time I saw him, so I guess his influence never rubbed off on me. And thank god because he's a worthless piece of shit But I know what you mean, and I can see how a lot of my friends parents influenced their behaviour with women too | /r/seduction | 29/01/22 07:19 AM |
| 2 | Where the fuck do most guys learn this stuff?God. I fucking hate dancing. I've never liked it. I've never understood how everyone enjoys it. I'll only dance if I'm absolutely drunk or on drugs (or i LOVE the music which is rare in a club) - but at that point my dick doesn't work lol So I should learn. | /r/seduction | 29/01/22 07:14 AM |
| 1 | Where the fuck do most guys learn this stuff?Cultivating a healthy mindset is the ultimate, but yeah there is a lack of practical posts here I've never been one to 'steal' other guys lines or anything, but I do often struggle with opening and closing cold approaches and stuff. People tell you it doesn't matter what you say, and I agree that nonverbal is probably more important, but you have to say something and I usually overthink it then by the time I've thought of something that's fun and not weird, the opportunity has passed by | /r/seduction | 29/01/22 07:11 AM |
| 1 | Where the fuck do most guys learn this stuff?Hmm when you say different do you mean you're the guy talking about the dissolution of the soviet union on the dancefloor or you're the guy dressed as a carrot or what | /r/seduction | 29/01/22 07:07 AM |
| 1 | Where the fuck do most guys learn this stuff?Yes and no - I know a guy so good looking that he literally has girls throw themselves at him at parties and grab his dick when they're drunk and stuff - whilst he himself is the least charming guy. And some people are naturally athletic, naturally have nice voices and quick wit But that's still a fair point, they still wouldn't be successful if they gave up | /r/seduction | 29/01/22 07:06 AM |
| 1 | Where the fuck do most guys learn this stuff?Any key insights? | /r/seduction | 29/01/22 07:02 AM |
| 2 | Where the fuck do most guys learn this stuff?I sent you a private msg : ) | /r/seduction | 29/01/22 07:01 AM |
| 1 | Where the fuck do most guys learn this stuff?I think that comes down to developing basic social grace and wit as well. The guy who made that comment sounds brain damaged or witless beyond belief I mean when you think about it developing solid social skills + putting effort into looking your best is most of the battle when it comes to game | /r/seduction | 29/01/22 06:34 AM |
| 2 | Where the fuck do most guys learn this stuff?That second paragraph raises a great point that I don't see raised very often in this community. On wednesday I was volunteering and paired up with a 10/10 who was the most insipid bitch ever and after about half an hour I didn't bother talking to her again. It was just so fucking boring. Some would say bro who gives a fuck, learn how to charm her. But later I was paired up with a less attractive girl who I had a lot of fun spending time with. I think maybe after having sex with a 10/10 and gett… | /r/seduction | 29/01/22 06:32 AM |
| 2 | Where the fuck do most guys learn this stuff?These are a few points that I still have to remind myself all the time Don't reject yourself, that's their job. Assume people are at least open to meeting you until they prove otherwise. Become outcome independent and curious. Don't approach someone aiming to get their number or fuck them, just aim to have a nice conversation and learn about them and if you feel like taking it further then go for it. Women can usually tell when you have an agenda and when you're desperate for a certain outcome, … | /r/seduction | 29/01/22 06:21 AM |
| 2 | Where the fuck do most guys learn this stuff?Read and watch what though? I find most guys in the community to be insufferable slimeballs - Todd V, the RSD dickheads, Neil Strauss. Mark Manson's books were pretty helpful, although not straight pick up stuff I don't like advice that's overly specific such as 'use these lines to disqualify her' etc because it feels too cheesy and unnatural. But then general advice (such as the YouTube channel 'get more confidence' or 'charisma on command') aren't quite specific enough with women I think at th… | /r/seduction | 29/01/22 06:03 AM |
| 2 | Where the fuck do most guys learn this stuff?I read the game a few years ago but I think Strauss is a self-righteous charlatan so I find myself rebelling against the advice in it, although I admit there's some really good stuff. I guess I still struggle to take rejection from girls I like, and that's my core problem. I've tried to rationalise it in all sorts of ways but it still stings like hell and causes me to question myself when it happens. | /r/seduction | 29/01/22 06:01 AM |
| 1 | Where the fuck do most guys learn this stuff?Yeah I'll try to go out with that mindset more often, although at some point you do need to go from 'just having fun' to 'I want to try and fuck this woman tonight' if that is indeed your aim, since the guy still has to be the one to lead the interaction generally. And also I hate clubs and bars unless I like the artist or I'm on drugs - so I really have no reason to just go out to them by myself on a weekend, and that will probably be obvious too. Social events, volunteering, local rock climbin… | /r/seduction | 29/01/22 05:57 AM |
| 1 | Where the fuck do most guys learn this stuff?Yeah but sex was essentially rape for most of human history - the biggest guy got the girl and that was that, she was getting fucked whether she really wanted to or not. Now there's all sorts of dynamics and hoops you have to jump through; be witty and charming and fun but not childish and weird, be direct but not too direct, be mysterious but make them feel comfortable, find a way to help her avoid the social stigma of having sex etc I don't think having a more primitive view of sex would help … | /r/seduction | 28/01/22 10:44 AM |
| 2 | Where the fuck do most guys learn this stuff?yeah for real I honestly think there's some pheromone shit going on behind the scenes - women seem to be able to smell desperation on me even if I feel like I'm acting normally. The issue is it's really hard to get yourself into a mindset where you genuinely don't give a fuck, especially if you're anything like me where you're only really into about 1/20 women you meet so naturally you're gonna do whatever you can to try and get them interested in you, and then you before you know it you've fuck… | /r/seduction | 28/01/22 10:34 AM |
| 1 | Where the fuck do most guys learn this stuff?Coming to realise that perhaps I'm just socially inept. But I know complete dumb fucks who do well with women so it can't require that much social acumen | /r/seduction | 28/01/22 10:24 AM |
| 2 | Where the fuck do most guys learn this stuff?Do you feel that's changed at all in the age of modern feminism or are women attracted to the same traits they always were (but now they'd be less likely to admit to it)? I often find myself thinking 'i know what I should do or say right now...but I can't be fucked jumping through that hoop and being part of this silly game' as an act of rebellion - but the jokes ultimately on me because then I end up with nothing and feeling a bit bitter about it. Although I think it's important to know when a … | /r/seduction | 28/01/22 09:46 AM |
| 1 | Where the fuck do most guys learn this stuff?I keep telling myself women want a man who's confident not arrogant, but quite often I see the latter type of guy doing well with women. I also tell them they aren't actually into criminal type guys, but you see those types of guys doing well with women too (at least certain types of women). I think confidence gets misinterpreted as competence, otherwise there's no reason why anyone would actually choose to be with an arrogant cunt unless they had some serious issues of their own right. I still … | /r/seduction | 28/01/22 07:56 AM |
| 2 | Where the fuck do most guys learn this stuff?Fair point, I just don't put myself out there enough. The last time I actually went out with the intention of meeting women was like 5 months ago. Although what's funny is that I find my chances of successfully meeting women are so much higher when I go out with the attitude of just having a good time and without any outcome in mind. Times where I really want to get a few numbers or kisses or whatever I must give off a desperate aura subconsciously... it's obvious when someone's having a good ti… | /r/seduction | 28/01/22 07:33 AM |
| 2 | Where the fuck do most guys learn this stuff?They also prob have loads of rejections as well and some of them are brutal (being told to fuck off etc) but they keep going, or at least that's true of the guys I know. | /r/seduction | 28/01/22 07:24 AM |
| 3 | Where the fuck do most guys learn this stuff?That's why I often wonder whether being on this sub just over complicates things for me 'oh fuck I must be coming across as low quality right now, I failed her shit test, I forgot to disqualify her blah blah' whilst the next guy is just being himself and being enthusiastic and it's working for him. | /r/seduction | 28/01/22 07:22 AM |
| 6 | Where the fuck do most guys learn this stuff?I've watched probably 100+ YouTube videos, read 500+ posts here and read Models, ngl I honestly don't think much of this has helped me at all. Maybe a little bit of practical advice here and there (e.g. try to take her to a second venue so the date feels more like an adventure) but for the most part I actually don't recall any of the stuff I've heard when I'm interacting with women. What things actually stuck with you and helped you in a practical sense? | /r/seduction | 28/01/22 07:21 AM |
| 1 | How does push-pull work when you're on a date with someone?Yeah it just feels cheesy saying stuff like "has anyone ever told you (Tease)" or "oh dear what are we going to do with you." etc if they don't feel completely natural in the situation - otherwise it feels like I'm channelling Todd V or some slimy PUA coach and I end up feeling like an imposter. But I should get into the habit of at least expressing how I feel, and relating whatever we're talking about back to us so the conversation doesn't get too abstract and lose it's feeling. | /r/seduction | 22/01/22 07:45 AM |
| 1 | How does push-pull work when you're on a date with someone?Good point - dates should be just as much about us figuring out whether we want to fuck or date them as much as they're doing the same with us. That makes it feel less performative and more natural. The issue is that whilst I consider myself a pretty good conversationalist, I've found that unfortunately a lot of women I've had dates with are horrible conversationalists, have fairly shit senses of humour, never have much to contribute, and that throws me off course. | /r/seduction | 21/01/22 04:16 AM |
| 2 | How does push-pull work when you're on a date with someone?I actually found that I've been getting worse with dates lol Everyone always says you just get better and better the more dates you have but i feel like I was a lot smoother a few years ago just before the pandemic hit and I started to become more reclusive lol I guess that means I should have more dates I'll take a similar approach to you though - the badboy thing just isn't me and it would be painfully obvious if I tried to put on that whole charade | /r/seduction | 20/01/22 03:30 PM |
| 1 | How does push-pull work when you're on a date with someone?But how would you build comfort and trust whilst also being a badboy who she doesn't want to be with longterm? It seems like you'd have to know exactly what you're doing to create the persona of someone she feels comfortable enough to have sex with but someone who she doesn't see herself being with | /r/seduction | 20/01/22 09:09 AM |
| 1 | How does push-pull work when you're on a date with someone?by build attraction you mean mostly to show that you're somebody worth getting to know/ having sex with, and to build comfort to assure them you're not going to keep her captive in your rape dungeon right? | /r/seduction | 20/01/22 07:43 AM |
| 1 | How does push-pull work when you're on a date with someone?I've never consciously tried to do push pull, it's always seemed a bit stupid to me But, I feel like you have to cover some basic questions about what you do for work etc because that helps women feel a bit more comfortable with you and shows that you're not embarrassed about it or anything Also this weekend I've got a morning date with someone because it's the only time they could do this week before they fly out for a few weeks, I reckon it would feel strange being sexual over brunch in the mo… | /r/seduction | 20/01/22 06:04 AM |
| 0 | Gym girlsIn my experience they're usually fairly conceited and more insecure than more 'out of shape' women but perhaps I just got unlucky with the few I've known. Some will only be wanting to date fellow gym guys so they can upload stories of them working out together like those insufferable power couples, but I'm sure some of them are interested in less built guys. Gyms are a bit tricky to approach sometimes - I'd try to catch them on their way to the car or chilling in the lobby area or something. I d… | /r/seduction | 20/01/22 05:39 AM |
| 23 | [deleted by user]alternatively you could try to be a human being and express your thoughts and feelings | /r/seduction | 21/12/21 04:56 PM |
| 2 | What's a reliable way to sexually escalate an interaction?Thanks for the advice By sex jokes do you mean like sexual innuendos e.g. if I'm talking about my cocktail making hobby and mention that I could give her a screaming orgasm (i.e. make her a screaming orgasm shot) or actual sex jokes that they've clearly just heard on a tv show or something? I could see how anything sexual would be uncomfortable if you haven't reached a certain level of intimacy with them and even then it can be childish. I think most guys are too afraid that asking to kiss/put t… | /r/seduction | 21/12/21 04:36 AM |
| 1 | "Just get off the apps and go out and meet people bro"Apparently 5 years back dating apps were legitimately good ways of meeting people, but these days maybe 1 in 50 profiles seem genuine and someone worth meeting...and matching with them...then getting them to reply...then getting their number....then getting them on a date is bloody difficult. All my hobbies are solo (Writing music, reading, working out, meditating, video games) but I should try to find a new one and go out more...girls aren't going to come knocking on my door | /r/seduction | 18/12/21 06:21 AM |
| 2 | "Just get off the apps and go out and meet people bro"I suppose there's the trichloromethane route | /r/seduction | 18/12/21 06:17 AM |
| 1 | "Just get off the apps and go out and meet people bro"I don't think I'd be an 8 but I'm 6'5 and muscular so I should at least be able to get womens attention. I think it has gotten more brutal though - everyone wants the top dogs because they've seen them on dating apps and social media so they feel like they shouldn't settle for anything less. I get a bit like that with women as well. | /r/seduction | 18/12/21 06:07 AM |
| 1 | "Just get off the apps and go out and meet people bro"You're right a few experiences can change your attitude completely. I've pulled a few girls at night (mostly when travelling overseas) but I haven't really had any enjoyable club experiences in a few years. I also don't like club environments anymore, they mostly annoy me especially if I stay sober (which I would rather because I get really bad hangovers these days) And I'm more interested in looking for a long term partner at the moment So I'm not sure if there's any point forcing myself to go … | /r/seduction | 18/12/21 06:03 AM |
| 1 | "Just get off the apps and go out and meet people bro"Yeah I know I'm making it more complicated than it has to be and talking myself out of it, but I get a very standoffish vibe from many women in my city, and I have female friends who tell me they hate being approached by guys so that crosses my mind every time I feel like walking over to someone. I think the apps have something to do with it 'why bother with this guy when I get 100 messages per day?' attitude. I know some girls prefer meeting people the old fashioned way, but they seem like the … | /r/seduction | 18/12/21 05:54 AM |
| 2 | "Just get off the apps and go out and meet people bro"Depends on the girl and the situation, I'm just a bit weary if they're throwing themselves at me because I know a friend of a friend who unintentionally got a girl pregnant this way and it turned out she was nuts and basically planned it. Also a guy I used to be friends with got herpes sleeping with a girl he met on a whim in a club. And my best friend once took home a girl from a club and let her stay over night and she ended up stealing his watch and some cash from his wallet, and he never eve… | /r/seduction | 17/12/21 03:24 PM |
| 5 | "Just get off the apps and go out and meet people bro"Woah thanks lots of value in that advice. You're right, probably my biggest issue is that I see courtship as being a performance (because that's essentially what it is) and performances can be nerve wracking and exhausting. I try to be independent of the outcome but it's not really possible when every cell in your body is screaming at you to fuck the creature in front of you. I have no problem connecting with someone in a non courtship context, even if they're an attractive woman, but as soon as… | /r/seduction | 17/12/21 08:27 AM |
| 12 | "Just get off the apps and go out and meet people bro"Yeah I no longer force myself to go out to bars/clubs, I spent too long pretending to enjoy that environment. I'm much better with my verbal game, and I get outclassed on the dancefloor anyway. It's just unfortunate that it's the 'easiest' way to meet single people. Sports clubs and places like bookstores museums are a bit of shot in the dark as to whether you'll meet anyone, but so are clubs I guess. | /r/seduction | 17/12/21 06:35 AM |
| 2 | "Just get off the apps and go out and meet people bro"If I were doing that like 50% of my life would be spent chasing women which doesn't make for a very balanced life lol Come to think of it my sex drive just isn't as high as it used to be, so I can take it or leave it if I have to, I remember when I just turned 18 the impulse to go out and be surrounded by women in short skirts was a lot stronger and I'd be more willing to put up with the irritations | /r/seduction | 17/12/21 05:18 AM |
| 2 | If being needy is the least attractive thing, why do so many needy guys end up doing well with women?Not all women are like this, I know some who aren't - my sister, my cousins etc. Too many are though. It seems some outgrow this mindset as well as they move toward wanting greater stability for raising a family, not all though. | /r/seduction | 15/12/21 04:06 PM |
| 1 | If being needy is the least attractive thing, why do so many needy guys end up doing well with women?Hmm fair enough I suppose it's just being socially aware, although most of the guy's in question seem to be distinctly lacking in that department! | /r/seduction | 15/12/21 03:46 PM |
| 1 | If being needy is the least attractive thing, why do so many needy guys end up doing well with women?Good point. I'm constantly asking myself 'why the fuck are you two together?' I've always been of the opinion that I'd rather be single than in a relationship which doesn't feel mutually beneficial and sustainable; accordingly I've never dated anyone for more than a few months. Maybe at some stage I just need to accept that I'm going to have to compromise more if I do actually want to eventually marry and start a family. Nothing else in life is perfect so I'm not sure why I would expect a relati… | /r/seduction | 15/12/21 08:30 AM |
| 1 | If being needy is the least attractive thing, why do so many needy guys end up doing well with women?There's some psychology behind it from what I've read: Women love the idea of taming a beast / changing someone for the better Fear arousal can be mistaken for sexual arousal as they originate in the same portion of the brain Criminal activity represents a degree of confidence and that is often mistaken for competence It's fucking stupid though and can make you question why you even bother, but ah I'd much rather be alone than a heroin addict with some psychologically damaged skank | /r/seduction | 15/12/21 08:22 AM |
| 1 | If being needy is the least attractive thing, why do so many needy guys end up doing well with women?Damn is that actually the mentality? That's basically setting oneself up for a lifetime of frustration and disappointment. We all have to make compromises to be in relationships, but our intention shouldn't be to change the other person - that should be a natural outcome of a healthy relationship. | /r/seduction | 15/12/21 08:17 AM |
| 1 | If being needy is the least attractive thing, why do so many needy guys end up doing well with women?Oh nah I'm the opposite, I get defensive with giving away my time and space, and will sometimes push dates back or go days without replying to someone to the extent that they'll lose interest in me lol | /r/seduction | 15/12/21 08:15 AM |
| 1 | If being needy is the least attractive thing, why do so many needy guys end up doing well with women?Yeah I made the mistake of looking for logic in relationships/attraction again | /r/seduction | 15/12/21 08:14 AM |
| 2 | If being needy is the least attractive thing, why do so many needy guys end up doing well with women?How would you define intensity though? I think some peoples definition of intensity would cause others to feel smothered. For instance regardless of how much I enjoy spending time with someone I wouldn't want to spend every day with them. Even when I was on holidays with my best friends I would take a day or two a week to wander off and do my own thing. I take it some people interpret this as tho I'm not interested | /r/seduction | 15/12/21 08:13 AM |
| 1 | If being needy is the least attractive thing, why do so many needy guys end up doing well with women? 1) How can you be certain if someone likes you to that degree? 2) Where is the line between being intense and being a doormat? does the former stand up for their own opinions and respect their time whilst the latter doesn't? | /r/seduction | 15/12/21 08:11 AM |
| 1 | If being needy is the least attractive thing, why do so many needy guys end up doing well with women?Anyone who can't bear to spend time alone (I know a few who admit to this as though it's just another quirk in their personality) need serious self-acceptance based therapy in my opinion. I know we live in a world where these people can oftentimes manage to avoid being alone, but it's kind of inimical to sustained contentment and will pollute their relationships. | /r/seduction | 15/12/21 05:24 AM |
| 2 | If being needy is the least attractive thing, why do so many needy guys end up doing well with women?Good points. I can't say I've ever had anyone orbit me to that level lol I'm very independent and defensive of my own time/space, so I'll occasionally go a few days without even replying to people's messages or logging into social media let alone hanging out with someone every single day. I guess needy people realise pretty immediately that I'm not going to meet their needs. Which is best for both of us. | /r/seduction | 15/12/21 05:21 AM |
| 4 | If being needy is the least attractive thing, why do so many needy guys end up doing well with women?Sounds like he's a better guy than you though(?) | /r/seduction | 15/12/21 05:18 AM |
| 2 | If being needy is the least attractive thing, why do so many needy guys end up doing well with women?Yeah looking to win someone's affection with logic is going to leave you resentful. I'd argue that logic is virtually absent from relationships, or at least it's only relied upon to try and justify emotional decisions. | /r/seduction | 15/12/21 05:16 AM |
| 2 | If being needy is the least attractive thing, why do so many needy guys end up doing well with women?Well said. I think there's also a more primitive component with how the needy guy is evidently lower in the social/sexual marketplace hierarchy and therefore not as desirable as the guy who can take it or leave it because he has plentiful options. | /r/seduction | 15/12/21 05:14 AM |
| 1 | If being needy is the least attractive thing, why do so many needy guys end up doing well with women?Shouldn't you be asking the guys/girls who opt for partners who treat them like slaves? | /r/seduction | 15/12/21 04:57 AM |
| 12 | If being needy is the least attractive thing, why do so many needy guys end up doing well with women?hmm I know it should be obvious but what are some early signs I should be on the lookout for on the 1st or 2nd date that indicate someone is needy? | /r/seduction | 14/12/21 11:47 AM |
| 2 | If being needy is the least attractive thing, why do so many needy guys end up doing well with women?When the person requires something from the other person (hence the reason they're smothering them with attention) that's the definition of being needy isn't it? | /r/seduction | 14/12/21 11:43 AM |
| 11 | If being needy is the least attractive thing, why do so many needy guys end up doing well with women?Well I think I have the opposite problem - I value my own time and space and I'm an introvert deep down so I'll go days on end without contacting a girl I'm supposed to be dating because I don't like the idea of having to talk to the same person every single day (don't even do that with friends or family). Some girls have told me they thought I wasn't interested in them when really I was just doing my own thing for a while. I know some guys who live with their partner, workout with them, have th… | /r/seduction | 14/12/21 06:05 AM |
| 1 | Need advice for setting up the 1st dateIt's summer here at the moment, but actually it's a bit too hot sometimes (like 40 degrees) and park in the evening is full of mosquitoes I feel like park isn't that intimate though? At a cafe or bar you can sit right next to them and look into their eyes, but walking round a park feels more like something you'd do with a friend? | /r/seduction | 10/12/21 06:47 AM |
| 1 | Need advice for setting up the 1st dateYeah Ive learned that the hard way. It's weird because I would rather someone ask me when I'm free than tell me what day we're meeting up but maybe it's different from a girls perspective. The only issue with a drink is that cocktails here are like $15 each and if we end up getting 3 each and I'm paying that's bloody almost 100 dollars Would you ever recommend getting food on a date? | /r/seduction | 10/12/21 06:44 AM |
| 1 | Does seduction require highly advanced social skills?Fair enough, if I'm just being myself without trying to appeal towards girls I'll probably only end up being successful with about 1/10 because frankly I'm tuned a bit differently to most people, but I guess that's just how it's got to be | /r/seduction | 09/12/21 07:41 AM |
| 1 | Does being charming ever become second nature?Hmm some interesting points you raise there I agree that it takes a perfect storm of different factors for me to be on point, and if I'm feeling too tired, frustrated, stressed, sick, jealous, depressed etc my approach is thrown off (and I probably won't even bother to be honest) AND if the girl isn't giving off the right vibe i.e. if she's one of those 'ok' standoffish type girls who judge everything you say and don't really play along ... well firstly I'm not interested in being around them bu… | /r/seduction | 07/12/21 11:36 AM |
| 1 | Does being charming ever become second nature?You're but, but I'd say my self esteem is like a see saw, on one hand I do actually consider myself to be smarter, funnier, more interesting than the average person, but on the other hand I know that my adhd can make me come across as annoying, confusing and offensive unintentionally so then I start to overthink everything. I also think I struggle to express my natural humour and interesting side when I'm with women - it just doesn't come out naturally like it does when I'm with friends...probab… | /r/seduction | 07/12/21 11:09 AM |
| 2 | Does being charming ever become second nature?hmm I have noticed that when I'm doing best socially is when it feels as if I'm barely thinking, almost as if it's automatic. Which is strange. Maybe deep down we all know what to do more than we give ourselves credit for | /r/seduction | 07/12/21 11:05 AM |
| 2 | Does being charming ever become second nature?I think it depends on the person too though - I know a guy who's charming to most women but has also had girls throw drinks in his face etc lol | /r/seduction | 07/12/21 11:03 AM |
| 1 | How can I avoid getting burned out with the shit luck I've been having?Ideally both; I'm not willing to be with a woman I find emotionally unpleasant or unengaging simply because I find her physically sexy (as several guys I've asked have openly admitted to) but likewise If I'm not signficantly attracted to someone a romantic relationship isn't going to work. I've gone on dates with women who had beautiful personalities but towards whom I felt little attraction and it was ultimately a disappointing waste of time - I would give it a month or two and it felt a lot li… | /r/seduction | 05/12/21 02:26 AM |
| 4 | Wait what? It was THAT easy all along?!Is it? Maybe girls in your country are less judgemental than girls where I am but If I just cold approach they'll reply with something to an effect of ...ok? There are very few girls who have actually responded positively to me approaching them even when I've been smooth and charming - the success rate is so low I think fuck it I'll just try to meet people through friends or on dating apps instead | /r/seduction | 03/12/21 03:41 AM |
| 1 | How do you weigh up looks vs personality?Because I'm curious what sort of importance other people place on certain things Basically I want to know if I'm being too picky but it seems....if I keep my standards high it's just me and my hand tonight. | /r/seduction | 30/11/21 06:35 AM |
| 12 | Is it normal to find small talk and flirty banter really fucking exhausting?If they weren't capable of it then might be, but disliking it doesn't make someone socially retarded. I find that people who only ever small talk and flirt are intellectually retarded | /r/seduction | 28/11/21 09:09 AM |
| 8 | Distinguish yourself as an attractive man by adopting the following behaviorsYeah these would definitely help, but there's a huge element of luck in life - we like to pretend there isn't because it's not very motivating to think that the guy next to you can achieve more by putting in a quarter of the work, but it's true. Maybe they happen to be in the right place in the right time, while we go out and only encounter insufferable women with princess complexes 10 nights in a row, it's possible. But I think we also underestimate how insecure the average person is- I know so… | /r/seduction | 23/11/21 06:33 AM |
| 28 | Distinguish yourself as an attractive man by adopting the following behaviorsI don't mind silence so I've tried to allow some in dates... I even mentioned it 'the worlds too noisy, they don't understand how beautiful silence can be...sometimes it can convey emotions that words can't... *looked into her eyes expecting a kiss*... that backfired hahaha. Basically it seems like some people are fucking allergic to silence and they will literally just drivel dogshit constantly in an effort to avoid it. It's hard not to get caught up in that mentality though, especially on a da… | /r/seduction | 22/11/21 05:17 PM |
| 35 | Distinguish yourself as an attractive man by adopting the following behaviorsI mean I agree but it seems like every dude I know who does well with women is also guilty of doing basically all of this | /r/seduction | 22/11/21 05:14 PM |
| 2 | [deleted by user]thanks | /r/seduction | 13/11/21 06:07 AM |
| 6 | [deleted by user]What is phone sex? I'd tell her to take a hike tbh, too old for childish shit tests and mind games, even if I sacrifice sex | /r/seduction | 13/11/21 05:33 AM |
| 1 | How to stop sabotaging my sex life?Yeah I'll be upfront with it but probably not until we're about to have sex, perhaps it will decide to play along if I'm really into the girl so I don't want to jump the gun. I plan to pleasure her with my hands and tongue first so it's not the end of the world if I can't get it to work properly for PIV (I mean it's not the end of the world anyway, but I understand some girls are really expecting that) | /r/seduction | 07/11/21 03:58 PM |
| 1 | How to stop sabotaging my sex life?Yeah we're trying some new medication, but I think I also need to change my mindset toward the whole situation as well. | /r/seduction | 07/11/21 10:57 AM |
| -30 | What’s the fastest way to loose your virginitySeems to defeat the purpose does it not? Why would fucking a paper bagger give any sort of confidence boost? | /r/seduction | 04/11/21 01:37 PM |
| 1 | Pick Up Coaches are BastardsI prefer the philosophy that says guess what...your mission in life shouldn't be to maximise your body count...that's a pathway to discontent and probably an STD and unwanted child or 2. Unless that's what you want in which case go ahead. That's not to say you can't go out and have casual sex every now and then for the fun of it, or that some pick up advice isn't going to help, but some of those pick up guys who were boasting about sleeping with 500 women and every waking moment of their life wa… | /r/seduction | 26/10/21 03:48 PM |
| 2 | How would you connect with an extremely shy/introverted girl?I've always seen that advice but my mind just can't conceive of walking over to someone saying 'hey I'm Andy' with a big shit-eating grin....I mean I'm sure it works well enough if they find you attractive but it just seems so blunt, in my mind there's this situation where they hesitantly shake my hand and say 'Hi Andy, I'm Susan' then we maintain eye contact while I let out the longest fart ever documented, then turn and walk away. | /r/seduction | 26/10/21 02:50 PM |
| 2 | How would you connect with an extremely shy/introverted girl?It's just hard to know if it's worth trying to crack someone open or just leaving it be and finding someone who you vibe with more from the get go - I feel like by going with the latter option you could be saving yourself time but also missing out on getting to know some great people | /r/seduction | 26/10/21 12:16 PM |
| 1 | How would you connect with an extremely shy/introverted girl?I mean how do I get to the point where I'm asking her on a date? Or should I just walk over and say 'hey, so I was thinking life's short and you seem like a nice person who I'd like to get to know a bit better, would you be up for grabbing coffee sometime?' | /r/seduction | 26/10/21 12:12 PM |
| 1 | Pick Up Coaches are BastardsIt's a shame confidence is so attractive so this 'works' too often Confidence used to mean something (in the tribal days it correlated with competence) but nowadays it can just correlate with who's on the most coke or who's got the biggest ego | /r/seduction | 26/10/21 11:12 AM |
| 1 | Pick Up Coaches are BastardsBy OG's you mean a bunch of sex addicted slimy charlatans regurgitating canned lines and exploiting women's insecurities to maximise their body count? | /r/seduction | 26/10/21 11:10 AM |
| 12 | Why can I get hookups but not a single relationship my entire life?Is he intellectually capable of talking about other things? | /r/seduction | 25/10/21 12:14 PM |
| 5 | What's the best way to deal with loud music? Especially if you have shit hearing?man that reminds me...I need to take this free salsa dancing class nearby...I've seen the instagram page and it's packed full of beddable young lasses...and it's free...and it will teach me how to move my body...and I've put it off for about 2 years | /r/seduction | 24/10/21 04:12 AM |
| 9 | What's the best way to deal with loud music? Especially if you have shit hearing?what if you cannot/dislike dancing? Am I supposed to seduce her with my eyes alone? | /r/seduction | 24/10/21 03:35 AM |
| 2 | What's a good intro line you can fallback on if needed during a cold approach?I suppose it really is that simple - though they're all predicated on her finding you attractive immediately...although I guess that's necessary with whatever approach you take | /r/seduction | 23/10/21 02:55 AM |
| 1 | 'I find myself weirdly attracted to mysterious guys'where do you draw the line with how much to share? People say she should be doing 80% of the talking but what if it's a topic you're passionate about or she's shy or something? | /r/seduction | 13/10/21 06:39 AM |
| 1 | 'I find myself weirdly attracted to mysterious guys'How might this look in a conversation on a first date that goes onto the topic of say their friend who's suicidal or something? Should I try to change the topic or just avoid disclosing too much about myself? | /r/seduction | 13/10/21 03:46 AM |
| 1 | 'I find myself weirdly attracted to mysterious guys'so if the conversation turned deep and personal, how would you continue it without disclosing stuff about yourself? I know some guys would say you steer it back to a more superficial topic, but that's not really my approach - I want someone who I can have deep conversations with from the get go | /r/seduction | 13/10/21 03:33 AM |
| 2 | 'I find myself weirdly attracted to mysterious guys'I just really struggle with the boundary becuase my adhd means impulse control is not my strong suit so its almost physically painful to stop myself from saying things that pop into my mind - and if I approach an interaction with a girl like a gave of snakes and ladders trying not to say the wrong thing, it becomes so unenjoyable I'd rather not bother - but maybe from now I'll try to limit how much I tell, or when I feel the urge to blurt something personal out I'll try to change that into a que… | /r/seduction | 13/10/21 03:31 AM |
| 1 | 'I find myself weirdly attracted to mysterious guys'I mean it does, but I would have to fundamentally change the way I interact with girls and it will feel kind of calculated and unnatural for a while . I guess that's the price I need to pay if I want to create a mysterious image for myself and appeal toward more girls | /r/seduction | 13/10/21 03:25 AM |
| 4 | 'I find myself weirdly attracted to mysterious guys'I should add we were taking a class on mental health and we were paired up to discuss something related to depression so I didn't just walk up to her and start unloading my history of mental illness, yeah I know even the most open minded person would find it off putting if someone said all that before they knew them well but I find it really fucking hard to filter myself, and that makes interactions really unenjoyable so it's a balance | /r/seduction | 12/10/21 01:15 PM |
| 33 | Got a girls number at the covid vaccination clinicI guess my line would be something like: 'anyway I know we've only been chatting for a few minutes, but life's short and you seem like fun company, so would you fancy continuing this over a drink sometime soon?' rather than asking for their number. I think it reduces chances of them flaking and if they say no to that then they probably weren't worth texting anyway Then something like 'so we could wait for fate to bring us together again...probably easier just to grab your number tho' then messag… | /r/seduction | 13/09/21 03:57 PM |
| 6 | Got a girls number at the covid vaccination clinicIt's a numbers game but certain situations give you way higher odds. The slightest common ground or common circumstance you can find with someone seems to account for a hell of a lot. Anything that allows you to jump over the the barrier that they hold for annoying opportunistic guys who approach them when they're out and about. | /r/seduction | 13/09/21 03:46 PM |
| 31 | Got a girls number at the covid vaccination clinicYeah I should also add, I was on a 14 hour flight a few years ago sat next a cute girl who I chatted to for several hours straight then we ended up sleeping together... well literally she fell asleep leaning on me and I promised I would come visit her in her city...then we somehow got separated at the end before we got each other on social media. I've also made such a close friendship with two guys on a flight that I stayed at one of their houses when I visited their city and recorded a song wit… | /r/seduction | 13/09/21 03:42 PM |
| 3 | Got a girls number at the covid vaccination clinicI'll happily go along for the ride. | /r/seduction | 13/09/21 03:31 PM |
| 1 | I have no fucking idea how to act around clubbing/drunk/party girlsI get strangely more self conscious when I'm drunk, because I've had a history of offending people and saying stupid shit lol. Also I can't get hard when I'm even a bit drunk so I try to stick to 1 or 2 drinks. I guess it's nor usual to be annoyed by drunk people when you're sober is it | /r/seduction | 13/09/21 03:37 AM |
| 1 | Is most courtship advice completely counterproductive?1) Widen my scope? If I'm looking for a longterm partner shouldn't I focus my scope? 2) Fair point. I think I was trying to implement too many changes too quickly and sacrificing my authenticity in doing so. 3) Where would you suggest looking for healthy practical advice? | /r/seduction | 12/09/21 02:56 PM |
| 1 | I have no fucking idea how to act around clubbing/drunk/party girlsYeah I feel like being a decent dancer would help me out a lot, but strangely I've never enjoyed dancing and never felt the urge to do it - even when nobody is watching. I think forcing oneself to do anything is going to backfire. It will probably be obvious, and exhausting. I guess I'll try to pick better venues and just be myself | /r/seduction | 12/09/21 08:47 AM |
| 1 | I have no fucking idea how to act around clubbing/drunk/party girlsI'm 6'5 and built like a lean bodybuilder, yet I can count on one hand the number of women I've had come over and flirt with me. It makes things much easier, I won't deny that, but it still requires a proactive mindset to actually see results | /r/seduction | 12/09/21 08:39 AM |
| 1 | How to give physical compliments that aren't too desperate or cheesy?au contraire most women I know have incredibly miniscule self esteems (Even the pretty ones) and are susceptible to love bombing and flattery - it's strange how sometimes it works and other times it is an absolute turn off | /r/seduction | 09/09/21 04:45 AM |
| 3 | My favorite quote from models "She is rooting for you"Manson missed the mark a bit with this tangent I think; it just serves to add to the already incredible pressure/expectation to fit a certain mould. Plus many people are incredibly dismissive - a one strike mentality. I'd rather believe that she's curious to meet me and see what I can offer; to see what sort of connection we form when we're both being true to ourselves. | /r/seduction | 07/09/21 09:42 AM |
| 1 | What motivates you?I personally don't believe we have very much freedom over our fates (We're biochemical puppets getting joggled about on a confined stage when you think about it). For instance, even your most radical acts of apparent freewill were majorly predetermined by your genetics, upbringing, experiences, primitive impulses, external events etc but despite all that I see what you mean. | /r/seduction | 04/09/21 05:34 AM |
| 2 | I lose interest the moment they return interest in me...how can I overcome this!?the groucho marx quote comes to mind 'I'd never join any club that would accept me as a member' lol I'm already seeing a psychologist and studying psychology for that matter, but I haven't spoken about this issue before so I'll bring it up in my next appointment. The change has to occur from within of course. I don't feel that I hate myself but I do have self worth issues. I think there's also the element of chasing the novelty or the forbidden fruits that appeals to me as well | /r/seduction | 16/08/21 03:53 AM |
| 8 | PSA: Don't waste time on girls who don't like youIt's one thing to do the math and adopt a logical approach...the minute adrenaline and oxytocin and co. start bubbling around all my logic goes out the fucking window...I'm a glorified ape, my frontal cortex is too small and my adrenal glands are too damn big I'm being a bit hyperbolic but honestly how do you have such restraint an logic when dealing with things like sexual attraction? | /r/seduction | 15/08/21 05:13 PM |
| -1 | PSA: Don't waste time on girls who don't like youI'm assuming 'no' girls aren't the girls who are coy and telling you you're not really their type, they're the girls who basically don't even acknowledge you exist? | /r/seduction | 15/08/21 05:09 PM |
| 1 | Should you push yourself to meet people in settings you're not as comfortable in?What motivated that decision? and how was it? I've gone out solo a few times overseas, but I think overseas is a different ballgame because you're more excited and it's easier to befriend people when you're 'exotic' | /r/seduction | 02/08/21 04:28 AM |
| 1 | Should you push yourself to meet people in settings you're not as comfortable in?Yeah certainly working on yourself is vital. One could argue that if they worked on themselves enough they wouldn't feel the need to bolster their self worth by bringing home a stranger from a club, but I guess it can be a fun experience in itself. It's more that I have auditory processing disorder and ADHD so I get overwhelmed by the loud music and commotion and I can barely focus on anything, plus I'm not a natural dancer so I feel like I'm running a race with my legs tied together compared to… | /r/seduction | 02/08/21 04:26 AM |
| 1 | Should you push yourself to meet people in settings you're not as comfortable in?I should really commit to dance classes, I've been putting them off for years lol What sort of dance classes did you take? And I tend to dive into deep conversation on any topic e.g. if she mentions music I'll dive into different genres, how music has been an important part of my life, relationship between music and mood and a bunch of nerdy shit not becasue I want to overwhelm her but because I'm passionate about it and I'd be bored if we just stayed at superficial talk about how this song is a… | /r/seduction | 02/08/21 04:22 AM |
| 1 | How are people are able to hookup with people they met the same night?Yeah well said Once again it's a case of the (few?) lowest common denominators / liars / scumbags / manipulators ruining the experience for everyone. My neighbour once decided to stay in a club after her friends left because she was having a good time, a guy approached her who she wasn't interested in, ended up following her outside and trying to rape her when she walked back to her apartment. Unsurprisingly she was hyper vigilant from then on - and you can imagine how many opportunities to meet… | /r/seduction | 02/08/21 04:19 AM |
| 5 | How are people are able to hookup with people they met the same night?As someone who doesn't like dancing and doesn't have natural sexual charisma but is a pretty good conversationalist, how can I use conversation to my advantage? Should I even bother with night game? | /r/seduction | 01/08/21 11:00 AM |
| 8 | How are people are able to hookup with people they met the same night?The girls would have to be naive as all hell not to realise why a random heterosexual member of the opposite sex is taking such interest in them on a night out. But it's true, the stupid taboo and shame surrounding hook ups that's unfairly handed out to women is a huge factor and if you can mitigate that they're much more likely to go ahead. And if they can sleep with a previous partner they don't feel so bad about it. The whole thing is pretty twisted it's like 'we both want what we think we sh… | /r/seduction | 01/08/21 10:49 AM |
| 0 | How do you think the average woman would react if every man on Earth suddenly started ignoring her completely?I read heaps of them but given that this is a subreddit dedicated toward courtship I thought I'd introduce a relevant hypothetical question and seems like I'm not the only one who finds it interesting to ponder I'm guessing you're one of those brutish dipshits who wears shirts that say 'lead follow or get out of the way' and often says shit like 'bro why would you even bother talking to a girl if you're not tryna fuck her? | /r/seduction | 01/08/21 09:36 AM |
| 2 | How do you think the average woman would react if every man on Earth suddenly started ignoring her completely?Honestly I was going to offer a scathing riposte but in the spirit of being positive all I'll say is that you might want to consider unpacking this distorted view with a psychologist. | /r/seduction | 01/08/21 06:23 AM |
| 0 | How do you think the average woman would react if every man on Earth suddenly started ignoring her completely?Because I find it to be an interesting thought worth thinking about? Do you just spend all day thinking about how to slide into girls DM's/cunts? | /r/seduction | 01/08/21 06:02 AM |
| 2 | How do you think the average woman would react if every man on Earth suddenly started ignoring her completely?I take it you're not a single hetero girl? Otherwise I couldn't see it being a relief beyond the first week or two | /r/seduction | 01/08/21 06:00 AM |
| 1 | How do you think the average woman would react if every man on Earth suddenly started ignoring her completely?I mean I agree but attraction is a powerful thing - as much as I may wish to chat to a girl who's lonely/not getting much attention and as much as she may be a lovely person, if there isn't sufficient attraction then it could never be anything more than a friendship, which I suppose is beautiful in it's own right but if she's expecting more then it could end up being bitterly disappointing for her | /r/seduction | 01/08/21 05:59 AM |
| 2 | How do you think the average woman would react if every man on Earth suddenly started ignoring her completely?Yeah there's some serious irony in how how the more desperately guys behave the harder the game becomes for them - it's like a big perpetual motion machine of self sabotage. It's like busting your ass exercising then eating more as a result and wondering why you're not losing any weight. | /r/seduction | 01/08/21 05:47 AM |
| 1 | To those of you who have frequent ONS, do you bother trying to learn the other persons sexual preferences? That was a great rundown, way more detail than I was expecting! I've got a couple more short questions if you feel like answering 1) Before you get to this point I assume you take your top off when you're making out - do you then take hers off or wait for her to take it off herself? 2) In my experience the 'caressing, biting, licking' stage isn't as simple as I thought it would be, some girls sort of look at you as if to say 'what the fuck are you doing to me?' and definitely aren't into tee… | /r/seduction | 03/07/21 06:51 AM |
| 1 | To those of you who have frequent ONS, do you bother trying to learn the other persons sexual preferences?I know this sounds a bit like 101 crash course in intercourse but for the sake of giving me an example of how to explore her preferences without making assumptions, could you briefly run through what you would do after say getting to the stage at which you either finger her, go down on her, get head etc. Would you do what you want and see how she responds? And by sexy voice I assume you mean the deep yet whispered sort of tone? | /r/seduction | 02/07/21 12:03 PM |
| 1 | Is rejection necessary in order to build inner confidence?Yeah so I approached 6 girls today at the shopping centre I work in... each interaction developed into a deep chat and it felt very natural because for once I didn't go into it with the mission to get their number...I just wanted to chat to another human being. I think the emphasis to sexualise every interaction backfires - and PUA over complicate things - if the girl likes the look and nature of you then you don't have to do anything besides have a nice chat and ask if they'd like to continue c… | /r/seduction | 27/02/21 11:00 AM |
| 1 | PSA for Young Guys getting into pickupYeah I never said they do - the most important thing is just to be open and self assured... there are doctors driving mercs who are fucking abysmal with women and will probably never have a relationship - there are borderline homeless artists who can have their pick of women basically. It comes down to how you make them feel (altho there will be some who have set dealbreakers on your career and wealth and stuff) | /r/seduction | 27/02/21 10:56 AM |
| 2 | PSA for Young Guys getting into pickupYeah that makes sense. I just always questioned how acting could possibly be a form of self expression when you're literally playing a character, but then I wouldn't exactly be comfortable to act in front of an audience either. Perhaps it's more about vulnerability than self expression then? But I suppose they're not mutually exclusive either. It's an interesting topic for sure | /r/seduction | 27/02/21 10:54 AM |
| 3 | PSA for Young Guys getting into pickupBut is acting really the best way to practice vulnerability? I mean you risk looking like a bit of a silly goose in front of people, but I'm trying to see interactions as being less of a performance and more of me just expressing myself. Would acting classes be a good way to practice this? Being present is the most important thing I've found, even if I planned some really witty line...if it seems pre planned it's going to come off as off putting. And it took me a long time to realise that it mat… | /r/seduction | 26/02/21 01:16 AM |
| 2 | PSA for Young Guys getting into pickupoh yeah it's happened to me | /r/seduction | 26/02/21 01:08 AM |
| 1 | PSA for Young Guys getting into pickupYeah, I mean money is worthless if it's just sitting in a bank account anyway. I thought girls were still attracted to the physical form of fit guys but maybe that makes sense. Big boobs, booties etc symbolise that she's fertile...probably impossible to differentiate between the sign and the signified anyway | /r/seduction | 26/02/21 01:06 AM |
| 2 | PSA for Young Guys getting into pickupMoney is obviously a gateway into allowing you to find stability and pursue your hobbies and passions and goals to some degree, but when money itself becomes the goal that's when you have to reassess your priorities. It's good to hear that's not your mindset. Actually I've been thinking about taking an improv class for a while...I mean it's like how I put off speed dating because I thought it would be nerve wracking but actually ended up being fun and funny because the context is ridiculous... s… | /r/seduction | 26/02/21 12:20 AM |
| 1 | PSA for Young Guys getting into pickupIdk man in my experience most girls don't actually care that much about your career - they care about how you convey yourself as a person, how you treat them, how you make them feel. If you're not embarrassed about your lack of career (Which you shouldn't really be) then it won't be a dealbreaker with most women. If you are then it will be obvious and it probably will be. It's like if your dick isn't working you can say 'well shit... that's the whiskey dick... thankfully I've got fingers and a t… | /r/seduction | 26/02/21 12:13 AM |
| 1 | PSA for Young Guys getting into pickupBut I wasn't being very sociable or going out much. That's why I said handsome and approachable...and sociable with friends and hobbies If you're ugly as fuck (most guys aren't) then you could have the other things in place and still get very few results... if you're good looking and friendly but never put yourself in positions to meet people you won't either. | /r/seduction | 26/02/21 12:09 AM |
| 1 | PSA for Young Guys getting into pickupI mean you could just go out, or walk around the beach and shit to meet people so you don't necessarily need to work in an environment with cute girls to meet them - but it defnitely helps. I'm seeing a very attractive south american lady who I met at my retail side job... she was just a customer who came in looking to buy a pair of shoes and she seemed lovely so I suggested that we should grab coffee. Plus if you're working long hours as a doctor or lawyer etc and you don't have any colleagues … | /r/seduction | 26/02/21 12:04 AM |
| 2 | Going to a resort in 3 weeks.that's actually not a bad idea. Not sure why I never considered doing it. Even if you don't end up hooking up with whoever you're chatting to, they could probably give you tips and ideas about things to do, maybe invite you to a party, maybe end up hitting it off with one of their friends, or just hanging out with someone etc | /r/seduction | 25/02/21 01:01 PM |
| 1 | PSA for Young Guys getting into pickupyou say that as though that's all you're about. I hope it's not. | /r/seduction | 25/02/21 12:58 PM |
| 26 | PSA for Young Guys getting into pickupAgree I once had a few dates with a really sexy girl who was also earning 100k + and she knew I was unemployed but didn't give a shit because we had such a great vibe together, she even paid for one of my meals. She moved to the other side of the country a month after we met unfortunately but from then on I realised it's about how you make somebody feel not your credentials. They do come into it, especially as you get older, bu they are not often the prime criteria like a lot of people seem to t… | /r/seduction | 25/02/21 12:57 PM |
| 28 | PSA for Young Guys getting into pickup" Girls are attracted to guys who don't need them, and have more important things than girls. " Yeah but just be careful with that mindset. It needs a caveat "If you're a fairly handsome, approachable looking, sociable guy with a wide circle of friends and hobbies" otherwise that mentality could very well leave you lonely. I'm a 6'5 good looking guy but had depression pretty badly for about 2 years - during which I literally wasn't interested in girls because my libido didn't really exist. Grant… | /r/seduction | 25/02/21 12:52 PM |
| 8 | PSA for Young Guys getting into pickupI've got ADHD (dysfunctional prefrontal cortex) so I'm shit outta luck I guess...nah I've learned to play my cards and embrace my random shit. Some people hate it others think it's refreshing. Also it's still possible to be rich, attractive etc but anxious with women. But I know what you mean...that way you wouldn't have to try to build yourself up or position yourself...you just have to express yourself and your life should be enough of a lure for many women. I think the important distinction t… | /r/seduction | 25/02/21 12:47 PM |
| 1 | Stop Putting Sex On A PetastalWhat in seven hells is a petastal? I get your point but everything is kind of meaningless at the end of the day - you could say stop putting happiness on a pedestal - it's just a release of certain neurotransmitters I agree though. Plus asking someone if they got laid implies that having sex for the sake of having sex is all that matters..rather than having sex with someone because they're someone you actually want to have sex with. | /r/seduction | 25/02/21 12:21 PM |
| 1 | Physical anxiety symptoms getting in the way of good interactions...They're a crutch I don't really want to rely on...and they can stop your dick from functioning properly | /r/seduction | 24/02/21 03:55 AM |
| 1 | Physical anxiety symptoms getting in the way of good interactions...Ah yeah I'm working in a retail role that forces me to interact more which is cool Actually just yesterday I had a date with a cute south American girl who came in looking to buy some shoes and I decided to ask her out because she seemed overly friendly. You're right. Besides meds... the only solution is to approach more isn't it. | /r/seduction | 24/02/21 03:51 AM |
| 1 | Is this advice as awful as I think it is...?So essentially you feel like you can be unapologetically yourself around them and you have a mutual appreciation for each other? Hanging out should feel quite effortless and you should feel better after having spent time with them? | /r/seduction | 24/02/21 03:43 AM |
| 1 | Is this advice as awful as I think it is...?I think that's a good idea not to stop and run once you've got their number...even if you're scared about saying the 'wrong' thing...that makes the whole thing feel a bit ridiculous. And if you feel like you're in constant danger of turning her off you then you probably don't have the right mindset anyway and it's not going to be much fun hanging out with her. Yeah and even the 'tactics' cause me to overthink everything I say and probably appear a bit unnatural and un calibrated I guess it's tru… | /r/seduction | 24/02/21 03:41 AM |
| 1 | Finally grew some balls and started approaching strangers, here's what happened.Yeah you either hate each other and can't wait to get away...or you really grow to like them...or you're indifferent towards them. | /r/seduction | 24/02/21 03:37 AM |
| 1 | Physical anxiety symptoms getting in the way of good interactions...Yeah I understand that I'll always feel some level of anxiety, but the physical symptoms always take me by surprise, when I notice that I'm sweating and my heart rate is up... even if I'm not very attracted to the girl. I feel like without the physical symptoms I'd be way smoother and it would be more enjoyable because I wouldn't have to worry about whether I'm sweating and stuff. Do you find that the anxiety disappears pretty quickly once you're chatting? And are there any tricks you picked up … | /r/seduction | 22/02/21 11:50 AM |
| 1 | Very basic tip for you guys struggling with socializing with strangersI've always thought this question was painfully boring and hate being asked it personally so I try to avoid it. But...yeah if there's nothing else too topical to chat about...it can actually serve as a window into a more personal chat pretty quickly if you want it to. I really have to work on the 'don't have a 5 + minute rambling conversation like an autist when they're busy part | /r/seduction | 22/02/21 10:02 AM |
| 1 | Finally grew some balls and started approaching strangers, here's what happened.Yeah I've always gotten to know whoever I'm sitting next to on flights. Once I befriended a guy who let me live with him for a few weeks when I was staying in his city, and once I got to know a girl so well we hooked up on the flight, and once an older businessman offered me a role in his company (I wasn't very interested in that industry). These were 10+ hour flights so we had a lot of time to talk and there wasn't too much pressure because we could take a break from conversation and focus on t… | /r/seduction | 22/02/21 09:48 AM |
| 2 | Finally grew some balls and started approaching strangers, here's what happened.Yeah...going from not chatting to strangers for ages to having a great interaction with some beautiful lass at the beach is like trying to set a 100m PB when you haven't trained in months. Just chatting to anybody about anything helps to get you in the mood You realise that people aren't so different and you can even learn social cues and tips from chatting with old men that you can apply to cute young girls | /r/seduction | 22/02/21 09:44 AM |
| 1 | Finally grew some balls and started approaching strangers, here's what happened.important mindset change; Stop seeing strangers as being different until you have evidence that they dislike you and start seeing them as relatable people who already like you until you have evidence that they don't. | /r/seduction | 22/02/21 09:42 AM |
| 6 | Never wonder what you said wrong when she stops respondingCan someone define 'good text game' because I hate the 'If she says this --> say this --> if she replies with this ---> reply like this' shit | /r/seduction | 22/02/21 09:36 AM |
| 1 | Is this advice as awful as I think it is...?Yeah good points. Btw, on a sidenote... how would you judge whether you're 'compatible' with someone to the extent that you think it's worth arranging a date or arranging a 2nd date? I know it's usually obvious when you are or aren't but sometimes I question whether I'm being too picky. | /r/seduction | 22/02/21 09:31 AM |
| 5 | The “Approach” Mindset Needs to DieThe feeling of not tying your self esteem to your success with women is pretty nice and sustainable too | /r/seduction | 22/02/21 06:06 AM |
| 1 | How to kill approach anxiety - A practical guideFor me that basically means...don't make the interaction focused on an outcome...make it focused on just expressing yourself to another human being...and if you find that you've had a nice interaction... it seems logical to try to continue it with them sometime. I feel like that mindset tweak makes a HUGE difference in how you're perceived...less desperate and more genuine, friendly and confident. Obviously if they're a gorgeous girl you can't completely remove the goal in the back of your mind.… | /r/seduction | 22/02/21 06:00 AM |
| 1 | Asked out the hottest girl in my gym... (first time trying pickup)I like the conversational approach style like 'have you ever tried this?' because it's something that would be reasonable to ask almost anyone standing next to you - then you can gauge her interest and decide whether you want to keep chatting to her or not. Altho I do get bored quite easily with small talk lol. I guess the eyes compliment could work well because we all have to wear masks here so they are accentuated, but I don't take compliments that well myself. If a girl says 'you're really ta… | /r/seduction | 11/02/21 05:45 AM |
| 1 | To the guys who hook up with a lot of chicks, what do you think you do differently?It's kind of bases on a fetish I have, and if the girl doesn't fit this description I don't really get very aroused by her unfortunately. I wish it weren't this way or I would most likely be dating someone right now. You can't fake or force attraction though... | /r/seduction | 10/02/21 02:41 PM |
| 3 | Asked out the hottest girl in my gym... (first time trying pickup)Appreciate a womans input. I figured some guys were worried that if they weren't direct in the opening they may get friendzoned or miss their opportunity which is silly. So you would suggest initiating a conversation with a compliment? I've always felt strange doing that, unless it's something genuine like she really does have interesting hairstyle or clothing not just nice legs or eyes or smile. Oftentimes there's nothing notable going on around us though we're just 2 people going about our dre… | /r/seduction | 09/02/21 11:50 AM |
| 1 | Personal questions or topics to discuss during a cold approach interaction?I don't want to script a conversation though, I just wanted to know a few topics or questions that you find yourself talking about in your first interaction with someone. Or perhaps just which topics you would try to avoid. Obviously being present in the conversation is the most important thing | /r/seduction | 09/02/21 06:30 AM |
| 1 | To the guys who hook up with a lot of chicks, what do you think you do differently?Opener:Do you prefer direct or indirect? And do you find one or the other works better in certain situations? If a girl is walking past you at the mall you probably don't have much time to piss fart around with indirectness do you. Banter: Do you just banter about whatever comes to mind? I'm pretty humorous but I can be really inappropriate and offensive unintentionally... so I get really aware of that and then overcompensate by being a bit too safe and boring I think. How do you know when a wom… | /r/seduction | 09/02/21 05:52 AM |
| 5 | Asked out the hottest girl in my gym... (first time trying pickup)They never work in my experience. I even planned my date questions and spent weeks revising them. I haven't used any of the questions on any of the dates I've been on...maybe one or two here or there. | /r/seduction | 09/02/21 05:29 AM |
| 1 | To the guys who hook up with a lot of chicks, what do you think you do differently?Thanks for the advice. I think it depends on the girl too - I have really specific type so if I see a girl who fits that description I'm probably just gonna walk up to her even if she's delivering a baby...nah but in most circumstances I'm going to go and shoot my shot with her. The other thing is conversation... I know people say 'it doesn't matter what you say what matters is what you look like and how you say it' but I think that's not entirely true - now is your time to quickly establish any… | /r/seduction | 09/02/21 05:27 AM |
| 4 | Asked out the hottest girl in my gym... (first time trying pickup)I mean trying to express that you're a guy worth getting to know in 2 minutes in a slightly inappropriate location like a retail store when they're not reciprocating your energy isn't an easy gig. But yeah whatever. Some people walk this earth thinking you're a weirdo or a madman because they only know you from that one interaction. I guess confidence is about not giving a fuck and just going your thing | /r/seduction | 09/02/21 05:20 AM |
| 5 | Asked out the hottest girl in my gym... (first time trying pickup)I'm friendly though I promise :) Just get in the fucking van and don't make a scene | /r/seduction | 09/02/21 05:17 AM |
| 0 | Asked out the hottest girl in my gym... (first time trying pickup)Not in a tree with binoculars but if we happen to leave or be walking in at the same time or she's chilling in the foyer area rather than intercepting her in her workout, but I was probably overthinking it | /r/seduction | 09/02/21 05:13 AM |
| 29 | Asked out the hottest girl in my gym... (first time trying pickup)Hmm the one time I went with a line that straight forward something like "I thought you were cute and would regret if I never came over and introduced myself' I introduced myself and she gave me a very hesitant 'ok' sort of vibe and I had the biggest mindblank ever lmao and said something like 'so...you shopping for sunglasses?' (it was in a sunglasses store) and felt like michael cera or something ... so from then on I was a bit worried about that happening again (of course if the girl is inter… | /r/seduction | 08/02/21 02:29 PM |
| 4 | Asked out the hottest girl in my gym... (first time trying pickup)Ah I will say it's a ridiculous feeling when you realise how easy it is to approach someone...even if they scream at you and you freak out and vomit, it's still somehow easier than you built it up to be in your mind isn't it | /r/seduction | 08/02/21 02:10 PM |
| 30 | Asked out the hottest girl in my gym... (first time trying pickup)Ah I'll check that vid Altho lately I've had a bit more success just getting some numbers by ditching the PUA stuff and ditching any canned lines and being completely present in the interaction, after I had one stupid interaction where it was obvious that I had really planned it. I wasn't sure whether to make the first interaction just friendly and avoid asking for her number (unless it's a realllly solid one)....but last time I did that with a girl at a store nearby, by the time I decided I'd g… | /r/seduction | 08/02/21 02:08 PM |
| 96 | Asked out the hottest girl in my gym... (first time trying pickup)Nice. I've considered this with a very cute lady who's given me eyes a few times BUT wouldn't want to create an uncomfortable situation (for them not me as much) if they take it the wrong way somehow since there aren't any other good gyms in the area and I wouldn't want her to have to avoid me or anything, Might try to catch her in the carpark or something. How did you go about it? | /r/seduction | 08/02/21 01:54 PM |
| 2 | To the guys who hook up with a lot of chicks, what do you think you do differently?Day game is the only way I've gotten any numbers lol. It also takes a certain level of confidence that ironically a lot of party animals I know don't really have or use. My issue is knowing where and when to approach because unlike clubs and bars, a lot of girls are genuinely busy or not in the mood for being approached during the day or taken, and that all plays on my mind a bit. I know it's not your thing but if you have any advice that would be cool. If not all good man | /r/seduction | 08/02/21 10:50 AM |
| 2 | To the guys who hook up with a lot of chicks, what do you think you do differently?I'd like to be as versatile as possible and have different types of approaches but honestly may as well just focus on what you have a natural proclivity for...since some people do take really well to it...just not as efficient as we said. I guess It also helps me figure out whether I actually want to chat to someone or not i.e if they're the complete opposite of me then they're probably not someone I want to date or even have a ONS with if I don't like their vibe. But I have friends who are like… | /r/seduction | 08/02/21 10:40 AM |
| 2 | To the guys who hook up with a lot of chicks, what do you think you do differently?Silence is interesting. People try to avoid it at all costs yet you're happy to sit for hours in silence with family or best friends you're comfortable with. Sexual intrigue is also built during silences - how often do you start kissing someone midway through a sentence? But during an approach every second of silence feels like you're getting another point deducted from your score, and i'm not sure how much of that is just in my head or how much the other person does feel uncomfortable. That's w… | /r/seduction | 08/02/21 10:28 AM |
| 1 | To the guys who hook up with a lot of chicks, what do you think you do differently?Do you ever filter what you say? I've found that when I do worry about what to say I often don't bother approaching or my conversations are a bit mundane but when I don't I can go down some weird and really inappropriate tangents. Do you ever have mind blanks or do you just expect things to come to you..especially when you approach? The 3 second rule is basically forcing you be completely in the moment... but I guess since girls can sense when you're pre meditated or using canned lines, it's the… | /r/seduction | 08/02/21 10:14 AM |
| 5 | To the guys who hook up with a lot of chicks, what do you think you do differently?What if you're fairly confident but you're just someone who prefers to chill on the outskirts rather than being the life of the party? The guy who's having a philosophical discussion about platonism vs nominalism with a stripper on the party bus at their friends bucks night? Not quite but I definitely prefer a deep chat one on one than drunken dancing and shit The only things I've got going for me there are my height/physique (6'4 muscular) and sense of humour (Which people either love or hate).… | /r/seduction | 08/02/21 10:08 AM |
| 2 | To the guys who hook up with a lot of chicks, what do you think you do differently?how do you apply this when you have a really specific type that you're attracted ( about 1/40) so you really want to make it work whenever you come across one like this? I guess it's the same principle? | /r/seduction | 08/02/21 10:00 AM |
| 1 | In this thread we teach women how to become better with men (Mega list)I mean if the girl wants a relationship then withholding sex for the first date at least is a way to test if the guy is really in it for something more...I even have friends who will tell a girl what they want to hear in order to sleep with her then move on, and that really does damage to their self esteem. I'd prefer a virgin to a girl with a high body count. Less chance of STI, less judgement and comparison, potentially tighter, more intimate etc | /r/seduction | 08/02/21 09:49 AM |
| 1 | The Single Most Attractive Trait in a PersonWell said. Life is a series of small moments and interactions - each of which offer an opportunity to be embraced with zeal OR bitched and moaned about. Yeah everyone has their fair share of bullshit and unfairness to deal with, but it's how you choose to deal with things that makes the most difference. The added benefit of really cultivating this mindset is that even if you never attract anyone, you'll be left a happier person in general. It is MUCH easier said than done (citation: David faster… | /r/seduction | 08/02/21 09:44 AM |
| 0 | How to recover confidence in difficult or unexpected interactions?Well that's the thing It wasn't necessarily a pick up attempt, I just went in to ask how she went with the random lockdown last week and why there was a news crew in her store yesterday, and since she has smiled at me before I figured that if we connected I'd ask for her number. And that's why I wasn't too sure what to say when the other girl asked me because I didn't want to make it awkward for the other girl, even tho I'm pretty sure she did seem a bit interested. I don't have to experience gu… | /r/seduction | 08/02/21 07:42 AM |
| 2 | In this thread we teach women how to become better with men (Mega list)Is this like some satirical counter attack on the more sleazy side of female seduction? I'd only persevere with a girl like this if she was the most gorgeous girl I've laid eyes on and had a cool personality and life But I do think denying sex until you feel completely comfortable with it or perhaps even a bit longer to test what his intentions are isn't a bad idea. The #1 thing a girl should do is set very clear boundaries for herself (e.g. if he makes me feel uncomfortable or is too pushy etc … | /r/seduction | 08/02/21 07:25 AM |
| 1 | Men who see women as human beings will find more success than men who see women as objects, and use them to impress others, or try to get a reputation as a 'player'. When you're humble about your skills, the game becomes a lot easier.For real. But It's just a bit tough when you do need to go out of your way to cold approach girls sometimes and push things in a certain direction - because women aren't exactly going to flock to you...or if they have they're not really women I've been very interested in. I think removing your outcome dependency helps a lot - just walking up and having a chat to another human being because well why the fuck. If you two gel and there's a bit of chemistry then it feels natural to ask if they'd wan… | /r/seduction | 08/02/21 07:20 AM |
| 1 | Does it ever 'just happen' naturally with girls or does it always feel a bit like you've had to plan and execute?I agree - I've never enjoyed getting that intimate with someone I don't like the personality of or feel comfortable with. To some that probably makes me a beta male, to some girls wanting a ONS they're gonna be disappointed - but i'm just accepting how I am, and I don't feel like I'm losing anything per se that way. If a girl isn't cool with it she probably wasn't someone worth putting my dick inside anyway. | /r/seduction | 01/02/21 03:51 PM |
| 1 | Does it ever 'just happen' naturally with girls or does it always feel a bit like you've had to plan and execute?See I want to believe that's true (And I know to some extent it is) but my brain keeps telling me that every girl is different - one of them might not appreciate it like the other one does etc which I know should be part of the fun to figure them out but for me it ends up being more stressful lol | /r/seduction | 01/02/21 03:48 PM |
| 1 | Does it ever 'just happen' naturally with girls or does it always feel a bit like you've had to plan and execute?Do you find that you can escalate to the point of sex smoothly without actually involving all the usual pick up shit like the physical escalation ladder and disqualifications and hot and cold and stuff.... basically just being yourself and seeming genuinely interested in her, underpinned by some mutual attraction (hopefully)? Basically 'this guy is pretty hot, he seems genuine and nice...why not fuck him?' Also can you elaborate on 'kino' in public? | /r/seduction | 01/02/21 05:53 AM |
| 2 | Does it ever 'just happen' naturally with girls or does it always feel a bit like you've had to plan and execute?who ironically would all prefer if they could just indulge in their sexuality as they please. It's true I've always felt like a girls peer group are usually her harshest critics. I've heard girls friends make comments about them gaining weight, or being slutty, or being clumsy and shit. People say men drive harsh beauty standards and stuff, but I feel like it's mainly other women...and not just strangers but the girls friends a lot of the time. | /r/seduction | 01/02/21 04:50 AM |
| 1 | Does it ever 'just happen' naturally with girls or does it always feel a bit like you've had to plan and execute?Yeah fair enough. I think for all my life I've been expecting it to happen too naturally, and feeling like if it doesn't then it isn't meant to be - even for a ONS. But I'm realising now that you really have to get the ball rolling as you said. I've also never been into the cutesy shit...never really wanted to hold hands or take selfies together or anything...I'm thinking highkey I might be autistic...but eitherway it doesn't help that this sort of thing literally just doesn't really feel natura… | /r/seduction | 01/02/21 04:08 AM |
| 1 | 25M I am going to lose my virginity this week to an escortI could never pay for sex because I need the other person to want me just as much (I can't even get close to a girl if I feel like I have to persuade them too much) but that's just a personal thing. It's not a bad idea, so long as you're safe with it. Goodluck | /r/seduction | 01/02/21 01:31 AM |
| 1 | How to get rid of the "I might as well send them another follow up message to see if they're interested now" mindset?it's like 'I want to prove to myself that I can get her to have a change of heart because I'm a much better quality guy than the other fucking creeps who she has probably grouped me in with' But I need to change this mindset because it's making me a desperate ... I'm not going to call myself a creep because I am actually respectful and I wouldnt' ever send a dick pic or abusive message or anything...but my behaviour could be interpreted as being creepy | /r/seduction | 28/01/21 11:11 AM |
| 1 | How to get rid of the "I might as well send them another follow up message to see if they're interested now" mindset?It's the fact how it's worked a few times that keeps me wanting to try it... I mean 'what's the worst that can happen...they block me? they tell their friends I'm a creep? I'm just a single guy who's using modern mediums to try and connect with women' that's the mindset. But yes it is quite sad and pathetic. I could just walk down the beach and chat to 10 girls laying there (and probably get rejected 10 times) ...and at least that would feel more natural and fun/exciting. | /r/seduction | 28/01/21 11:09 AM |
| 1 | Do girls usually go for guys who project the same style and image as them?True...BUT... Girls in my city at least are generally extremely reserved and hesitant to engage with a stranger - even when they're at the beach and park and shit most of them will actively avoid making eye contact with you...and bars and clubs aren't my thing...so I'm sort of left wondering where the hell to look. And I'm 6'5 and quite good looking, but my photos are shit. I've been told by people that I'm the least photogenic person they've ever known...I literally had to edit my photos in pho… | /r/seduction | 27/01/21 08:11 AM |
| 1 | I think I've found a really effective cold approach strategy: "you look really familiar..."In hindsight I'm realising how cheesy it seems... and it could actually come across as a bit creepy or unnecessary if it's extremely obvious that you're bullshitting I had luck the other day by asking a girl where she and her friends meet decent guys these days and we whinged about dating apps and clubs and stuff and then I said 'in light of all this you seem like a fun person, so I'd be silly not to ask if you'd like to catch up for a drink sometime' and I got her number. She never replied to m… | /r/seduction | 27/01/21 08:05 AM |
| 1 | "Assume they're into you until proven otherwise"yeah, but it's also tough because sometimes they haven't gotten much of a chance to get to know me - and I look like a fuck boy...even though I'm really not. So I try to persist until I've been able to express some more of my personality so they're not just having a knee jerk reaction to what they think ill be like right after I approach them...and that can be really hard in a bar or club type of setting you know. | /r/seduction | 23/01/21 08:48 AM |
| 1 | I think I've found a really effective cold approach strategy: "you look really familiar..."Like she's a sexy girl walking past me on an average day in an average shopping mall... i know there are technically an unlimited number of things you could talk about but in reality I struggle to find a reason | /r/seduction | 23/01/21 07:46 AM |
| 1 | "Assume they're into you until proven otherwise"I sometimes chalk that down to 'she's just nervous, or she's not a good conversationalist, or she's used to guys doing most of the work' but maybe I'll stop giving them the benefit of the doubt | /r/seduction | 23/01/21 07:44 AM |
| 1 | "Assume they're into you until proven otherwise"Can you elaborate on that point because Im not sure that I understand it 100% | /r/seduction | 23/01/21 07:43 AM |
| 1 | "Assume they're into you until proven otherwise"Will do. I was very rarely putting myself into situations to meet people too mind you. Only going out once every 2 months, not meeting anyone at work, not on dating apps, and never really approaching anyone I saw at the shops or anything. You could be the best looking guy on earth but no quality girl is going to turn up at your door. | /r/seduction | 23/01/21 07:26 AM |
| 1 | I think I've found a really effective cold approach strategy: "you look really familiar..."'talks normally' about what though? How's your day treating you? Off to do the shopping? How fucked is america!? What are you getting up to this weekend? Why does glass taste like blood? What's your favourite non pornographic magazine to masturbate to? Small talk with a stranger you're trying to impress is difficult part and you really run the risk of talking yourself into a corner - that's why I thought this frame would give you a common theme to keep talking about. Also I've never asked if the… | /r/seduction | 23/01/21 07:24 AM |
| 2 | "Assume they're into you until proven otherwise"Well I have anxiety and depression and a fetish where im into girls deliberately overeating and gaining weight that caused me a lot of self hatred and also deprived me of many romantic and sexual experiences because I can hardly get aroused by normal thin girls and yet they're the main type who I attract...so we all have shit going on beneath | /r/seduction | 23/01/21 07:11 AM |
| 1 | "Assume they're into you until proven otherwise"It's difficult to do that when you're walking past someone beautiful at the shops...or even at the bar. In an ideal world we would have the opportunity to get to know everyone organically but unfortunately that rarely happens with anyone - especially if your work doesn't give you the chance to. | /r/seduction | 23/01/21 07:10 AM |
| 1 | I think I've found a really effective cold approach strategy: "you look really familiar..."I'd be ok with all of that if I found the girl attractive and she did it on a way that didn't seem creepy and just seemed confident and flirty - but obviously I'm going to be twice her size so if she kept persisting I could just stop her. And I would hope that very few guys would harass a girl at a train station or give her back massages without asking (but I know that happens) | /r/seduction | 23/01/21 07:06 AM |
| 1 | "Assume they're into you until proven otherwise"Hmm can you give an example of a few less obvious signals than women will subcommunicate to guys (or even friends) if they're uncomfortable or if they're enjoying it. | /r/seduction | 23/01/21 07:02 AM |
| 1 | "Assume they're into you until proven otherwise"what are some of the less obvious signs that someone is just putting up with you and doesn't actually appreciate your company? | /r/seduction | 23/01/21 07:00 AM |
| 2 | "Assume they're into you until proven otherwise"A lot of women would beg to differ and say they're in control lol | /r/seduction | 23/01/21 07:00 AM |
| 1 | I think I've found a really effective cold approach strategy: "you look really familiar..."Well they weren't all steps, just possible ways the conversation could go. To me that's better than having a mind blank after you introduce yourself How do you normally initiate it? | /r/seduction | 21/01/21 04:17 AM |
| 3 | I think I've found a really effective cold approach strategy: "you look really familiar..."That's comparable to the 'you'll find her when you stop looking' advice which in my experience is bullshit though... at least for me...when I stop actively looking I really retreat into my own world where I'm not receptive of girls flirting with me and probably don't look approachable. I am a 6'5 handsome guy which would help with a cold approach - but that's why I don't like the technique of walking up to a girl and telling her she's gorgeous and asking if you could take her out. I'd rather say… | /r/seduction | 21/01/21 04:15 AM |
| 1 | I think I've found a really effective cold approach strategy: "you look really familiar..."People here don't like the idea of canned lines, which is fair enough because you shouldn't rely on them BUT... in the moment you can really struggle to think of what to say first...I think this frame can be helpful because it's genuine whilst being a bit flirty and you can really tailor it to the feedback she's giving you. If you're having a great chat you could even come clean about how it was a cheesy excuse to talk to her and I'm sure she would find that endearing. | /r/seduction | 17/01/21 01:41 PM |
| 1 | I think I've found a really effective cold approach strategy: "you look really familiar..."You see an attractive girl walking toward you at the shops... in 10 seconds you'll never see her again. There's nothing notable about her appearance or the environment or anything. What do you say? | /r/seduction | 17/01/21 01:37 PM |
| 1 | I think I've found a really effective cold approach strategy: "you look really familiar..."Probably but the girls at work today thought it was a pretty good idea because you can really tailor it from being a 10 second conversation to a full on pick up depending on what feedback they're giving you and it shouldn't leave them feeling uncomfortable like some approaches do. | /r/seduction | 17/01/21 01:36 PM |
| 3 | I think I've found a really effective cold approach strategy: "you look really familiar..."Have you seen Todd's live pickups? I still have whiplash from the cringe. Other guys I can't really speak for because I haven't seen them out in the field. What I can say is that when you see a cute girl walk past if you have to try and think of a quick line or intro you're probably going to hesitate and loose the opportunity - if you have something like this in your mind you can resort to if you can't think of anything else it's much better than nothing. I've asked guys here what they say to wo… | /r/seduction | 17/01/21 01:34 PM |
| 3 | A daily reminder that confidence is the catalyst for seductionWell if you don't like their vibe then don't ask them out and end the conversation? You'll never really know if you like someone deeply until you've spent time and had experiences with them though. Some people don't even realise that they aren't really compatible with someone else for months after they've been dating | /r/seduction | 09/01/21 08:13 AM |
| 2 | A daily reminder that confidence is the catalyst for seductionI think being vulnerable is actually a great feeling. I'm probably too vulnerable to the point that some girls probably aren't used to guys being so upfront about their past and their emotions but a lot of them appreciate it. Also then you feel like there's a big weight off your shoulders because you have nothing to hide | /r/seduction | 09/01/21 08:11 AM |
| 5 | Your Last Ever Needed Guide On Conquering Approach AnxietyI don't even like the term 'high value guy' as that implies that there's an archetype that we should be fitting into when in reality - the most confident guy is the one who is being unapologetically themselves - whether or not the girl sees any value in what they're offering is up to them. The coolest person in the room is the one trying least hardest to be cool, technically speaking. That's not to say you should grow your nails and wear new balance trainers and get a bowl cut and stuff - but be… | /r/seduction | 08/01/21 05:32 PM |
| 1 | Here is what I did to stop developing crushesI like that analogy Of course, there will always be a degree of investment in the other person - particularly if you're extremely attracted to them (I'm only really into about 5% of girls I see so I get quite drawn towards them). And fantasying is pretty natural - it's what the lottery is based on, and to some extent gambling and travel industries. Nonetheless I will try to keep everything tethered to reality | /r/seduction | 03/01/21 05:18 PM |
| 1 | Here is what I did to stop developing crushesI needed to start doing that. I would fantasize about someone before they even match me or before I chatted to them...then if they weren't into me it was like being kicked in the guts. It was an old habit so it's taken consistent effort but it's definitely worth it. Life is too short to invest in people who don't reciprocate | /r/seduction | 03/01/21 07:21 AM |
| 1 | Female friends were shocked that I would go out with the primary intention of pulling girls...I'm just open about everything with everyone. Sometimes it gets spat back in my face, it's cost me some relationships and even a job but I can't be fucked filtering stuff these days. Some people appreciate that. One of my female friends did get it, but the majority just reacted negatively..possibly to try and project a positive image of themselves as well | /r/seduction | 31/12/20 01:28 PM |
| 1 | Female friends were shocked that I would go out with the primary intention of pulling girls...haha yeah that's true I personally prefer day game anyway. I'm reluctant to even call it game because for me it's just interacting with women and possibly trying to get their contact details if I feel like it's a positive vibe, there's no contrivance or strategising. Although I'm tall and muscular I'm not a sensual person, I can't dance for fuck and night clubs aren't my territory so there's no point competing with guys who prosper in that environment I guess. Day game can be tough though - you'… | /r/seduction | 31/12/20 01:25 PM |
| 1 | Female friends were shocked that I would go out with the primary intention of pulling girls...I guess you were exuding that level of self confidence and charisma without even realising it. Girls seem to have a pretty good way of discerning that from bullshit bravado - although even that is better than moping around looking depressed. I like the 3 second rule because I also know that you never really talk yourself into anything, the more you consider something the more you risk talking yourself out of it. At least with me. However it might be an excuse but I have ADHD and I'm prone to tal… | /r/seduction | 31/12/20 01:23 PM |
| 1 | Female friends were shocked that I would go out with the primary intention of pulling girls...Like a girl you talk to in order to make other girls around you perceive you as being high value or does she introduce girls to you? | /r/seduction | 31/12/20 01:17 PM |
| 1 | Female friends were shocked that I would go out with the primary intention of pulling girls...can you offer any advice for approaching and engaging with girls? I find that I'm quite good at building rapport in conversation, but I really struggle to convince myself to approach them because part of me feels as though I'm interupting them or I don't have a compelling enough reason to approach them. I once got a girls number because I accidentally smashed into her car, and once we sorted out the insurance stuff we found that we liked eachothers vibe and we had a few dates... It's as though I… | /r/seduction | 30/12/20 05:11 PM |
| 2 | Underrated places (or contexts) for meeting women in your experience?Trying to cold connect on instagram.... actually got me 2 dates...and got me blocked several times lol. I felt like I was always being respectful though, it was just like... life's short, why not shoot my shot with someone...it could be a while before I get a chance to meet them at a social event, and even then. | /r/seduction | 25/12/20 12:56 PM |
| 3 | Underrated places (or contexts) for meeting women in your experience?I always thought that was more of an ironic cliche. Some girls will literally say shit like 'if you have a cute dog you're already in' ... I know some absolute pieces of shit with cute dogs so I assumed it was just a conversation starter lol | /r/seduction | 25/12/20 12:54 PM |
| 1 | Do you ever 'treat em mean' to 'keep em keen'?I guess even if it works....the end doesn't justify the means. I don't want to deliberately be an asshole because I like to think I'm a good person, I don't want a girl who wants an asshole or thinks she does etc | /r/seduction | 17/12/20 05:53 AM |
| 1 | Do you ever 'treat em mean' to 'keep em keen'?I did do an escape room with a girl last year and it was fun - but I'm surprised she agreed to it in hindsight since she was being locked in a room with someone she doesn't know very well. Cinemas can be kinda shitty since you can't talk at all i find. One thing that I found fun was exploring bars because I live in a pretty cool district of my city - but I have to sort of act like I haven't done it before now lol. Or back at my apartment I've got a cocktail bar that I set up, so the last girl wh… | /r/seduction | 17/12/20 05:52 AM |
| 1 | Do you ever 'treat em mean' to 'keep em keen'?I'm actually not busy at the moment though, in fact I just got out of bed at midday. I'm still working on the purpose thing. But I have re-enrolled to study neuropsychology next year and I'm starting a temporary job next week so that should help. | /r/seduction | 17/12/20 05:41 AM |
| 2 | Do you ever 'treat em mean' to 'keep em keen'?Ah yeah, I've never even considered sending good morning texts to any girl I've been dating before haha. I tend to reply in like big paragraphs with massive life updates and try to arrange the next date rather than sprinkling small messages more often - which I guess is due to my mental state like I said...but I really should make an effort to send a small message like that once in a while. I think most relationships would benefit from starting as FWB - that helps to establish the two tenets nee… | /r/seduction | 16/12/20 05:36 PM |
| 2 | Do you ever 'treat em mean' to 'keep em keen'?Also, how did you orchestrate a FWB relationship? I feel like that's the hardest thing to pull of because it seems to get interpreted as 'you don't really like me enough to want to date me properly' in my experience | /r/seduction | 16/12/20 05:24 PM |
| 3 | Do you ever 'treat em mean' to 'keep em keen'?Fair enough. I guess consistency shows that he values you. Unfortunately I also have some anxiety and depression that makes me go off the grid for days at a time and cut communication with everyone in my life - I have a hard time explaining to girls that it's nothing personal, especially when they hardly know me. I'll try to force myself to be more consistent even when I'm not really feeling it because I've lost a few really cool girls by unintentionally ghosting them | /r/seduction | 16/12/20 05:21 PM |
| 2 | Do you ever 'treat em mean' to 'keep em keen'?ahha thanks. I understand we don't often see people for what they are, we see them for what we want them to be. I'm actually going to study psychology next year by the way - not for seduction, but maybe it will give me more insight into that as well. Thanks. | /r/seduction | 16/12/20 05:10 PM |
| 2 | Do you ever 'treat em mean' to 'keep em keen'?Well that's exactly the problem right - if we haven't even met in person before, I feel like the slightest bit of meanness could just be misinterpreted as 'this guy is a cunt, he can go fuck himself' without the nuances of cadence and body language and stuff. The nickname advice is good, as long as it's not too forced I guess. | /r/seduction | 16/12/20 05:08 PM |
| 1 | Do you ever 'treat em mean' to 'keep em keen'?yeah, I think it's honestly my anxiety and depression getting in the way a lot of the time. I'll go a week without even replying to friends or family too. A lot of girls just can't understand that it's not personal, and fair enough. I better work on addressing that shit first really. | /r/seduction | 16/12/20 05:07 PM |
| 1 | Do you ever 'treat em mean' to 'keep em keen'?Thanks for the ladies input, altho I wouldn't expect any girl to ever admit they enjoy being treated mean - I thought of it to be more of a subconscious reactance sort of mechanism. Regardless, I don't intend to do it, it's only that when I've done it unwittingly it seems to work...however it's not a good foundation to start a potential relationship on is it. What's your idea of adventurous dates btw? A lotta girls say they want to go on adventures, then when I suggest something outdoors they sa… | /r/seduction | 16/12/20 05:05 PM |
| 3 | Do you ever 'treat em mean' to 'keep em keen'?hmm that's not a bad guide. I've gone 10 days without responding to a girl I've been chatting to... it's a bit of a long story but I definitely deserve the ghosting I'll most likely get lol | /r/seduction | 16/12/20 05:01 PM |
| 6 | Do you ever 'treat em mean' to 'keep em keen'?yeah but being a cunt for cuntsake e.g deliberately keeping a girl hanging for several days, going cold on her randomly, talking about other girls around her to try and provoke some jealousy is surely shit (not to say that girls are innocent creatures themselves) | /r/seduction | 16/12/20 04:59 PM |
| 4 | Do you ever 'treat em mean' to 'keep em keen'?I mean I never really intend to keep girls waiting, but if I'm not really invested in someone I'll take a few days to reply to their messages often - and I didn't really realise until now how much more effectively that seems to keep them interested (especially during times when it's difficult to meet up right away). I have had a few lose interest or delete me because I took too long to get back to them so it's dependant on the individual to some degree...but overall coming across as busy seems t… | /r/seduction | 16/12/20 12:40 PM |
| 1 | How do you find the right level of smoothness?so by that logic, some people could try to approach a million women in a million ways and still be absolutely awful at it? Or you mean it should naturally improve as they get more experienced? | /r/seduction | 15/12/20 05:44 PM |
| 1 | How do you find the right level of smoothness?well yeah but I was hoping for some advice as in how you tailor it to the girl you're pursuing or whether you think it involves just being unashamedly yourself around people or whether it's something you have to put on and grow into etc | /r/seduction | 15/12/20 09:14 AM |
| 1 | What are some ways guys unintentionally communicate neediness and desperation?Yeah I try to treat people like I've known them for years. Who the hell likes somebody who acts all stiff and formal after all? Admittedly it can be a bit hard to do that if you really find someone sexy and don't want to fuck up your chance with them...actually that can usually lead you to overthinking what you should say and then missing the opportunity to approach them entirely. It's the creeps who ruin it for the rest of us. If every guy was respectful, being hit on wouldn't be such a big dea… | /r/seduction | 26/11/20 10:17 AM |
| 1 | What are some ways guys unintentionally communicate neediness and desperation?hahaha it sounds like the men where you live have just been excavated from a dungeon (and dragons game) and they've just seen a woman for the first time! who the hell starts breathing heavily!? At most I'll make an excuse why I need to keep browsing something next to a girl at the shops even tho I don't need anything in the aisle, trying to find a reason to start chatting - but I don't think that's weird really. I mean most girls are actually flattered if you flirt with them the right way, right… | /r/seduction | 26/11/20 07:41 AM |
| 2 | How to make a good impression and stop sabotaging yourself...when it really counts?I mean yeah that's it really. I guess there are no other secret mentalities or anything. | /r/seduction | 25/11/20 04:10 AM |
| 2 | What are some ways guys unintentionally communicate neediness and desperation?haha I appreciate that message. I did once have a girl say 'oh so that's why you went for me' when I told her that I like chubbyish girls, and she didn't seem too pleased. Another one didn't like me saying she was womanly. Societies really drilled it into their heads that girls should be petite/toned/fit as fuck at least in Australia. I also find some belly fat to be sexy and I told a girl once (Who wasn't fat at all) and she was sort of shocked ... but I always have. And it's something I can't … | /r/seduction | 16/11/20 10:24 AM |
| 1 | How to postpone dates without causing them to move on?Yeah I had just tried that before and left it a week or so, and the girl never responded again. I guess that's always a risk you run, but in this case it would've been the better thing to do. Nobody likes getting their hopes up and clearing their schedule only to have it changed at the last minute. If I were her I would've called it quits as well. However, I think forcing the date would've been a better option really, and I'm sure she would understand if I'm a bit down at the beginning... probab… | /r/seduction | 13/11/20 07:15 AM |
| 1 | How to postpone dates without causing them to move on?Yeah in hindsight she actually stuck around for longer than she needed to, just a shame that when I was actually ready to have a date she wasn't. I was worried that if I didn't immediately arrange another date she would think I wasn't interested in her but really I should've just told her I'll need a little while to get through these things OR just had the dates with her and accepted that I wasn't at my best and she would've understood that I think | /r/seduction | 12/11/20 04:50 PM |
| 2 | How to postpone dates without causing them to move on?That's not how I operate though. I haven't even seen my best friends during the last few weeks. There's this belief that if someone actually wants to see you they'll make time for you asap, but I'm the opposite, I liekd her and I wanted to make a good impression so I didn't want it to be ruined by my pain or emotional state. If I didn't give a shit about what sort of impression I made I would've met her when I was hobbling with back pain like an old man. In hindsight that probably would've worke… | /r/seduction | 10/11/20 06:17 AM |
| 1 | How to postpone dates without causing them to move on?I think she was more than patient, it was more that I would adamantly set another date and then pull the pin always literally on the day or the night before like 4 times. I should've waited and told her I'd message her soon, but I was worried I'd lose her that way as well. Maybe she also decided that I needed time away from dating to deal with this stuff at the moment. Maybe she's right. But maybe meeting her would've been exactly what I needed to elevate my spirits. Ah well. | /r/seduction | 10/11/20 06:13 AM |
| 1 | How to postpone dates without causing them to move on?I did, and she was very understanding for the back and the grandmother (those are hardly things to get angry at someone over) but I guess the work reason was the final straw. I did give her a few details - I'm in a small startup and the boss essentually forgot to create a clients website and they need me to do it asap in the next few days so I should be working on it right now. But I guess she just got sick of waiting. I sent her a short voice message to briefly apologise - said I didn't want to… | /r/seduction | 09/11/20 04:11 PM |
| 2 | Older guys, what is some advice you can give to younger guys?A pretty important bit of advice I'm still learning is 'see people for who they really are, not what you want them to be" Fantasizing is nice, but it can seriously lead you to waste time and energy, and set yourself up for disappointment. Perhaps she just doesn't like you mate. Try to stop dwelling on it and recognise the reality so you can act accordingly. | /r/seduction | 09/11/20 04:02 PM |
| 2 | Older guys, what is some advice you can give to younger guys?I remember my friend telling me, after he had been with the girl of his dreams for about a year, something along the line of 'the infatuation dies after a while, you realise you put way too much thought and energy into them, and were seeing them for how you wanted them to be not what they really are. You don't want to give them the power to completely crush you if they were to leave - you need to keep building yourself on your own path" | /r/seduction | 09/11/20 03:58 PM |
| 8 | Older guys, what is some advice you can give to younger guys?I literally just pissed away an opportunity with a great girl by postponing the date. There were valid reasons but still....girls move on. And fair enough. | /r/seduction | 09/11/20 03:54 PM |
| 1 | How to postpone dates without causing them to move on?When I was in too much pain from my back to walk around let alone enjoy myself with someone? Or when I was feeling like shit (and still am) because my grandma who I lived with for 12 years passed away? Maybe I shouldn't have rescheduled and just told her that I'll message her when my backs mended, when I'm feeling in higher spirits etc. There's still a good chance she'll move on anyway, but that seems a much more respectful route than postponing dates doesn't it. | /r/seduction | 09/11/20 03:51 PM |
| 1 | Has reciprocating a girls coldness actually worked for you...?Physical attraction makes - we were attracted to those who appeared healthiest and most fertile (altho this has become severely twisted by the fashion industry) but I wonder why, from an evolutionary perspective, women's personality and ability to display competency in maternal care isn't a more salient criterion in a partner - since the aim of all this is to procreate and give our children the best chance at surving | /r/seduction | 15/10/20 04:39 AM |
| 3 | Has reciprocating a girls coldness actually worked for you...?I mean It's not like I sit there staring at my phone eating tubs of ice cream and praying that they message me, but I also don't go sending them a message saying 'thanks for wasting my time blah blah' because I've learnt that it's not always the case. Also I don't know about you but I do have pretty specific preferences. It's not always as simple as moving onto the next one, since I'm probably only really physically interested in 1/15 maybe 1/20 girls I see. That can lead me to getting hung up o… | /r/seduction | 14/10/20 04:48 PM |
| 1 | Has reciprocating a girls coldness actually worked for you...?My approach to proving myself is really just being myself and speaking my mind, but hey at least if that works then I don't need to keep up some facade in fear that she'll lose interest in me if I drop it. I also don't really understand the stats. There's approx 51% females in my city. Probably more like 52-55% because a lot of guys work away up north for work. Yet dating apps are said to have an 8:1 ratio of men:women. And every woman supposedly has so many more options than the average guy. Wh… | /r/seduction | 14/10/20 04:29 PM |
| 6 | Has reciprocating a girls coldness actually worked for you...?I just sometimes find it hard to know. And yes I know it should be obvious - but I've had recently a girl go 10 days without responding to me then messages me to say she was really busy with her prac week and didn't use social media, and we ended up having a date the next week. Or once a girl unmatched me after we had a good conversation on Tinder over a few days. Then I matched with her on another app a few weeks later and she told me that some creep had threatened her so she deleted the app. S… | /r/seduction | 14/10/20 04:27 PM |
| 3 | Has reciprocating a girls coldness actually worked for you...?I mean yeah. I think sometimes It's just hard to accept that someone who you thought you had a good connection with (and perhaps you actually did) suddenly lost interest in you, and there's a chance that they're testing you out to see how you respond to their coldness (Which is probably pretty rare). But I agree that if you have to brute force a date to happen, it's probably not going to be a great one | /r/seduction | 14/10/20 03:40 PM |
| 5 | Has reciprocating a girls coldness actually worked for you...?That seems to be a fickle thing though. There's always a flickering flame of attraction. One day they seem genuinely into me, the date can even seem to go down really well - then without warning they're cold. Not sure if this is exploiting the same technique that guys often use, but it doesn't make me more interested in them. The only time when I feel like showing interest backfires is when you're too intense - replying immediately with 20 emojis or just just trying much too hard because it indi… | /r/seduction | 14/10/20 03:31 PM |
| 1 | Expressing vulnerability vs Remaining mysteriousYo sorry for a week late reply - I agree that sharing what's on my mind is a double edged sword - It would be ideal to not overshare to the point that I'm rambling and my words are meaningless, but not be of the opinion that everything that comes out of my mouth has to be some Oscar Wilde level witticism because who the fuck wants that sort of pressure either. My ADHD has always made it difficult to filter myself and my tangents are oftentimes crazy and hard to follow - I've noticed that some pe… | /r/seduction | 28/08/20 09:45 AM |
| 2 | How do you not get jealous hearing about guys your age who are way more successful with women?Bear in mind that a lot of these guys are seriously troubled individuals and try to displace deeply ingrained insecurities by pursuing women to prove to themselves that they're worthy. I know this sounds like some incel tier argument to justify never trying to get girls, but I recently chatted to a guy who's slept with over 100 women and he admitted that he's depressed and uses ONS as a way to try and mask it, but he's recently started seeing a therapist after he realised that he was feeling eve… | /r/seduction | 16/08/20 06:21 AM |
| 2 | Do you always try to escalate making out into sex?that seems like a good middle ground between just ripping off her top (even if that seems like what she wants) and completely killing the momentum to ask her "hey uh i was wondering if its ok" "ok to what?" "well you know" "go on" "FUCKIN DISMANTLE YOUR PELVIS" "oh...uh yeah" "alright cool" | /r/seduction | 15/08/20 09:21 AM |
| 1 | Sexual desire differing majorly from day to day?True - plus doesn't help that I have (sort of) fetishes that are hard to gratify irl so porn is the only way to indulge them. I try to limit my porn consumption - often I'll go a few weeks without it but then it will come creeping back. I did notice when I went from March to May without porn, I felt like I reprogrammed my mind a bit, but then I relapsed. I must be the only guy who managed to avoid porn during the lockdown hahahah | /r/seduction | 23/07/20 06:39 AM |
| 1 | Sexual desire differing majorly from day to day?Some days are harder than others (if you pardon the pun)... generally it's ok but I'm not a guy who can shag anything that winks in his direction - I've only ever gotten with girls I'm attracted to (and i have pretty specific standards) - the drawback there being that I don't get nearly as much action as I could...but then again I've never seen the point in sleeping with girls you're not very much into just for the sake of it. | /r/seduction | 23/07/20 06:35 AM |
| 4 | Jobs/Activities you can do to make yourself more social? Lacking social skills due to sitting infront of the Computer all day, even my ability to talk has deteriorated.Besides work and volunteering go and strike up some conversations with people in a setting you find comfortable or relaxing - a park, record store, beach. Or people working in retail jobs, receptionists etc. Ideally cute girls so you can practice just chatting to them and throwing in some flirting, but it can be anyone really. Don't go with any goal in mind, just to chat for a bit e.g. at the park you could ask about the breed of their dog, at a record store you could ask if they have recommenda… | /r/seduction | 01/07/20 04:27 AM |
| 2 | How to avoid 'giving your power away' after sex?good to hear and good advice with the one night stands vs dating Between my back injury which really inhibits my flexibility and the medication I'm on which fucks around with my erections...let's hope that deep discussion compensates for very average sex hahhahah I wasn't sure if it felt really cliched though like she thinks oh here comes the fucking glib philosophical bullshits because he's just blown his load. | /r/seduction | 23/06/20 11:02 AM |
| 2 | How to avoid 'giving your power away' after sex?Yeah but how do you actually do that without going cold on a girl who's just done something very vulnerable for you, without her taking it the wrong w...I guess it doesn't really matter if they're a ONS like you said actually. I suppose I could go back to fingering/going down on them. | /r/seduction | 22/06/20 07:15 AM |
| 6 | How to avoid 'giving your power away' after sex?I mean so do I. actually prefer it to the whole courtship hustle and I don't think there's anything strange about that, but I wasn't sure how women would interpret it. If they're clearly enjoying the moment as well, I don't see how it could ever be a negative thing though. | /r/seduction | 22/06/20 07:12 AM |
| 8 | How to avoid 'giving your power away' after sex?fair enough but in my case it's almost always at my place because I live alone in a cool apartment within walking distance of the main cafe and bar strip in my city. Would you say you have something on tomorrow morning and offer to drive her home or something? My friend was basically kicking girls out right after sex and then wonders why they don't reply when he asked them to come round again. So this probably depends if they're someone you want to see again doesn't it | /r/seduction | 22/06/20 07:10 AM |
| 1 | Advice for conversation with a girl on a night out (not a date)hmm i know I need to couple it with physical escalation and logistical escalation (move her around locations) but can you elaborate a little more? | /r/seduction | 13/06/20 04:20 AM |
| 1 | If a girl says she'll think about whether she wants to meet up is that a shit test?Yeah although I tried to avoid making it seem too serious because I didn't want to set the tone that I was some little puppy walking back with its tail between it's legs - if that's what it takes then I ain't interested in 'winning her back' so to speak. Little tid bit i left out; she's a semi famous actress with over 200 thousand followers on social media and she's a 9.5/10....so...she's probably got a couple other options. That's also why I went to this effort to get her on date, in most cases… | /r/seduction | 31/05/20 06:13 PM |
| 1 | If a girl says she'll think about whether she wants to meet up is that a shit test?I left her a voice message because that's usually how we've been communicating and it's a bit more personal than texts Basically syaing I understand why she'd be frustrated but she knows I wasn't doing it intentionally and have injured my back so I never knew how much pain I'd be in the next day - eitherway I think we'd have fun hanging out - and asked her schedule. Probably said too much but whatever it's sent now. Not really expecting a reply and as cool as she seemed, I'm not going to make an… | /r/seduction | 31/05/20 05:12 PM |
| 1 | If a girl says she'll think about whether she wants to meet up is that a shit test?I think it's dead in the water since I tried to give her a call and she didn't answer. I figure at this point I might as well try everything I can to get her on that date, if I come off as pathetic then whatever, the alternative is that we never talk again anyway. And there's a slim chance that she's waiting for me to prove that I'm capable of taking the lead and arranging it myself - and that I'm actually invested. And I heard that asking their schedule is better than suggesting a day because t… | /r/seduction | 31/05/20 09:05 AM |
| 1 | If a girl says she'll think about whether she wants to meet up is that a shit test?that's a possibility because I'm not supposed to have sex until the physio says so lol I didn't tell her that obviously but maybe she was just looking for a casual thing | /r/seduction | 31/05/20 04:39 AM |
| 1 | If a girl says she'll think about whether she wants to meet up is that a shit test?not easy to build that through a phone screen though... I Don't have instagram either Oh and I should probably mention that she's an aspiring actress with 200 thousand followers But we had a chat on the phone last week and connected well - she's not actually a vapid bimbo like I was suspecting. Pretty sure I've blown it now though but oh well lesson learned | /r/seduction | 31/05/20 04:32 AM |
| 3 | If a girl says she'll think about whether she wants to meet up is that a shit test?Before I read this I ended up telling her I'll give her a call tomorrow and she agreed. We usually send voice messages and I think chatting over the phone (As much as I fucking hate it) is favourable to texting because that can seem real blunt or be easily misconstrued. Plus it will be obvious by the tone of the call if she's genuinely pissed and /or if she's even worth trying to have a date with. If she doesn't answer then I'll move on. I would usually write it off as a loss but we've been chat… | /r/seduction | 30/05/20 02:33 PM |
| 1 | Do you always physically escalate (touch) unless you receive clear signs that they're not comfortable with it?Sorry for the very late response. That makes sense. I could see a lot of girls rolling their eyes upon reading what you've typed because they want to feel like 'it just happened' , but it's clearly been the case whenever they've been successfully pulled, unless there's some extreme circumstance. What do you mean by go cold and masculine? If a girl is resisting your flirting do you dial back the flirting and try to qualify her and cause her to try to win you back essentially? | /r/seduction | 25/05/20 04:14 PM |
| 1 | Do you always physically escalate (touch) unless you receive clear signs that they're not comfortable with it?See the advice I've read here is not to talk explicitly about sex before sleeping with a partner because it removes the sense of uncertainty that they find fun (plus it may set up unrealistic expectations), but instead move the conversation in a sexual way e.g. talking about alcohol, tattoos, something fun like "if you could sleep with one celebrity alive or dead?", "what accent do you find sexiest?" then try to do your best impression of that accent, shit like that. The other advice I read was … | /r/seduction | 24/05/20 06:49 AM |
| 1 | Do you always physically escalate (touch) unless you receive clear signs that they're not comfortable with it?Well I'd assume the fact that they're willing to spend time with you indicates that they're interested since I assume most girls have options. I'm in the awkward position where I don't want to fuck and duck / smash and dash the day I meet them but I'm really not looking for a longterm thing either. So I wouldn't want to drag it out too long and make them think I'm going for a relationship. So I need to think about what exactly I want because I can't really have both. | /r/seduction | 24/05/20 06:36 AM |
| 1 | Do you always physically escalate (touch) unless you receive clear signs that they're not comfortable with it?yeah that's what I do best I mean who the hell bothers to post on reddit about it in the first place lmao | /r/seduction | 24/05/20 06:31 AM |
| 1 | Do you always physically escalate (touch) unless you receive clear signs that they're not comfortable with it?Yeah that's fair enough, it would help to build comfort and help you avoid looking sleezy. I actually need to build some emotional connection to enjoy sex / wouldn't have it with someone I'm not comfortable with...apparently that's unusual for a guy...but I guess it works well enough since a lot of girls are the same towards guys | /r/seduction | 24/05/20 06:22 AM |
| 4 | Do you always physically escalate (touch) unless you receive clear signs that they're not comfortable with it?It's a bit vague though. That would mean to say if she isn't receptive to sexual escalation on the first date or two she's not interested - but that's just not true at least in my experience - some girls have like a threshold and can seem a bit disinterested but once you cross it (often just by spending enough time together) they can really open up and put their guard down. So on the third date suddenly they're suddenly very forward with you. Especially ones that have been played by guys in the … | /r/seduction | 24/05/20 06:19 AM |
| 3 | Do you always physically escalate (touch) unless you receive clear signs that they're not comfortable with it?but some girls can be very flirty and touchy whilst still being strictly against doing anything sexual on the first or second date, and it can be hard for me to determine if they're that sort of girl | /r/seduction | 24/05/20 06:10 AM |
| 1 | Do you always physically escalate (touch) unless you receive clear signs that they're not comfortable with it?It definitely is in some cases I mean it depends on the girl too though. I've met a few girls who were very forward with touch to the point that I actually felt a bit uncomfortable Stuff like the touch on the leg wouldn't really be used unless I'm sitting next to each other having a drink at a bar with a sensual atmosphere and only when it feels natural not because it's on some checklist of moves I need to make | /r/seduction | 24/05/20 05:51 AM |
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