The Mythical 'War On Men'

AnthonyZarat · 2012-11-30T15:41:52+00:00

My comment:

Make a list of the 10 worst things that can happen to a person. Put anything you want on your list. Any kind of violence, any kind of disease, any kind of accident, suicide, homicide, war, homelessness, anything. Then find out if each item on YOUR list happens more to men, or to women. Then learn why sexist feminist bigots like Kimmel ARE the war on men.

ObsidianOverlord · 2012-11-30T17:07:41+00:00

I don't think there's a 'war on men' anymore than there is a 'war on women'

It's just issues that should be addressed, no need to make it so dramatic.

Amunium · 2012-11-30T18:35:32+00:00

Each man told his story of how he was qualified for a job or qualified for a promotion that he did not get because of this putative reverse discrimination against white men. [...] I wanted to know about the word "my." Why did the men think it was their job? [...] these men felt entitled to the position, and that any effort to make the workplace more equal was perceived, by those men, as a loss.

What? How does that make even the tiniest shred of sense?

These men were complaining that they were passed up for promotion because of affirmative action or discrimination against them. Whether or not this is true I have no idea, and it's really irrelevant here - but how in the holiest of fucks does it make any damn sense to respond to that with what he did?

How are you feeling entitled if you have good reason to think you were discriminated against? How are you against equality because you don't want to be passed up because of your gender or race?

Apparently this guy thinks his answer was so clever it deserved its own editorial article in a newspaper, but really, it's completely nonsensical. He may as well have said "well, what about bicycles?" It's one of the dumbest things I've read in a while.

MRB2012 · 2012-11-30T20:25:21+00:00

And they assume, with no resentment, that they will be involved fathers, spending far more time with their families than their parents or grandparents ever did. Why? Because they actually want to be involved dads.

Hey, Kimmy? Fuck you. My dad actually cared about me. Your dad may have seen you as a self righteous idiot and wanted nothing to do with you (good choice). Some of us, however, had parents who loved us dearly, and we don't like it when clowns like you disparage them.

Ma99ie · 2012-11-30T16:05:49+00:00

Michael Kimmel is colossal intellectural fraud and bigot. CNN should be ashamed of itself for labeling him as anything but a self-loathing women-firster bigot.

NemosHero · 2012-11-30T22:39:43+00:00

I don't think there is a war on men. I also don't think there is a war on women. I think life is hard. I think people should get a helmet.

RedactedDude · 2012-11-30T20:08:52+00:00

My comment:

"This unhinged argument fuses dreadful history with empirically baseless contemporary analysis."

Well, Mr. Kimmel, you got one point right. Sadly it was about your own article.

andreipmbcn · 2012-11-30T16:15:34+00:00

The complaints amplify the message, particularly if they are in popular news outlets.

2012-11-30T16:31:55+00:00

This notion of good women/bad men has been the foundation not of feminism but of anti-feminism since the 19th century. Those innocent "angels in the house" were supposed to soothe the savage beast, as men were prone to bouts of rage, drunkenness and other depravities. If women didn't tame men, the anti-feminists argued, all hell would break loose.

I miss these entitlements the most.

rodvanmechelen · 2012-12-03T09:01:44+00:00

I was one of the "four angry white men" Kimmel mentions in the first paragraph. It was on the Bertice Berry Show. I am a member of the Cowlitz Indian Tribe in southwest Washington State. Like so many American Indians, I can pass for white. After the show, I wrote about it, here: http://www.backlash.com/book/racistsexism.html

WadeWi1son · 2012-11-30T20:52:26+00:00

I don't like the term war on men but there are many advantages that women have over men that the general population doesn't realize or seems to ignore. This example isn't caused by any sort of law but the amount of funding and research that breast cancer receives dwarfs the amount that prostate cancer receives, and some people have actually mocked Movember and people participating in it. Can you imagine someone openly mocking breast cancer? I remember reading something about a school in the UK that wouldn't allow a kid grow a mustache because the girls cannot participate, well no shit, they can't get prostate cancer either.

louis_xiv42 · 2012-11-30T22:39:49+00:00

Half of that shitty opinion piece is about that silly opinion piece written that woman. It is claiming since she is mistaken the entire MR movement is wrong. Seems to be a mix of the straw man fallacy and an argument from fallacy.

Title	The Mythical 'War On Men'
Author	My-Work-Reddit
Upvotes	49
Comments	39
Date	November 30, 2012 3:35 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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