My observations on Reddit.

rottingchrist · 2012-08-12T03:37:49+00:00

Why cant we just team up lol

It is an established fact that feminists hate men (not women, feminists). There is enough evidence to conclude that.

Now. Why would we want to "team up" with people who hate us? Hate us as men, not just MRAs.

I understand reaching out to women who don't identify as feminists and support their rights and convince them that our rights are worth supporting as well. And we should do that.

But no man, except one so self-loathing that he hates himself and his gender as a whole, can be a feminist, or ally with them. I can't think of anything more pathetic.

2012-08-11T22:30:16+00:00

The feminist response to the men's movement has always been to poison the well.

EpicJ · 2012-08-11T22:43:31+00:00

The fundamentals of feminism are flawed their idea is to make women equal to men but in any case where they have advantage like custody of children, suddenly they don't want equal treatment.

TommyGun991 · 2012-08-12T00:02:42+00:00

In the majority of countries in the world the equality has been reached. MRM has come up as a defense systemagainst feminism which seems to be trying to make women more equal than men. Public calls for banning men to pee standing up in public restrooms, men not being allowed to sit around minors or photograph their own children, false rape accusations and the sense of entitlement many women have has to be counter balanced.

AnnArchist · 2012-08-11T22:33:37+00:00

Because feminists equate equality for men's issues as wanting to steal their thunder or take away their victimhood

MrStonedOne · 2012-08-11T22:20:26+00:00

Because they refuse to transcend their biological programming that says men who show weakness aren't real men. This breeds contempt then everything else follows from there.

I sure there is a bit more to it then that, but this seems to be at the core from what I can tell.

zyk0s · 2012-08-11T23:21:01+00:00

Because feminism isn't the same as women's rights activism. The latter would be the equivalent, finding cases in law and social perceptions where women are at a disadvantage (which you won't really find in the west anymore). The former is an ideology based on the belief women have been and continue to be an oppressed group. If that's your belief, then it will blind you to situations where men are at a disadvantage. If it isn't, I suggest you don't call yourself a feminist, and dissociate yourself from them.

DejaBoo · 2012-08-12T03:44:53+00:00

Well I'm going to vent here a bit.

One you need to quantify your goals. Has feminism?
And are those goals realistic (e.g., no rape)?

I'm an egalitarian and a former feminist. I dropped the badge because I see no end in sight by feminism and frankly I see their doctrine blinding them and starting to cause more harm then good as a whole.

Now about half of feminists are very reasonable. The other half are not, imo. That other half have doctrine belief that sexism cannot occur towards a man, that any issues men do have are best served through feminism fighting the patriarchy, and are so myopic about issues that concern women they seem incapable to weigh them on a societal scale of proportionality (e.g., one rape women is greater then all acts of violence against men).

So here's the thing, if you don't have an quantifiable objective of equality or those stats you do have are impossible to reach the desired outcome such as rape you have a Religion.

You no longer have a social movement you have an indoctrinated belief system that is a multibillion dollar system of people -- good well meaning people mind you -- that get together on a regular basis and share self-empowering stories and books to further their cause. They have courses and outreach programs and with each and every year they get more and more supporters to fill their ranks to ensure their goals can be met.

Now who is this starting to sound a lot alike?

FriarTuck1234 · 2012-08-12T01:25:23+00:00

On my feminisms subreddit however, it seems that almost every post is blaming MRA (mens rights activists?). Why cant we move forwards to equate women.

sounds like you should preach to them.

mayonesa · 2012-08-19T20:12:33+00:00

I find myself a human rights activist. I believe we should all be dead equal.

Equality is a social construct not found in nature.

G-O · 2012-08-11T23:45:56+00:00

Getting one to yield power has rarely come easily, and in the public dialog on gender, feminism holds the power.

2012-08-12T00:19:16+00:00

Feminism is basically a cult religion. It is based on a number of fabrications. It is essentially intolerant of individual freedom. At its core it is marxist and authoritarian. Feminism is intellectual poison.

rightsbot · 2012-08-11T22:14:21+00:00

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Desturbinsight · 2012-08-12T07:35:14+00:00

There was a really interesting article on the difference of female vs male point of views and how that often corralates to subjective vs objective perspectives. Men in general seem to seek long term goals as an observable solution as where women have often been shown to seek what FEELS like a solution. ex) poisoning the well, personal attacks, and victimization. Similar tactics to PETA. This bothers me very much, because I too believe in equal rights as much as is possible, and its this kind of behavior, and self serving idiology that make it difficult for me to take many women seriously; and it gives an undeserved bad name to those people intelligent and wise enough to fight for womens rights

MaunaLoona · 2012-08-11T23:24:27+00:00

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Title	My observations on Reddit.
Author	FriarTuck1234
Upvotes	13
Comments	46
Date	August 11, 2012 10:13 PM UTC (14 years ago)
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