To the back of the train with the men: Ladies-first seating in Czech Republic

IHaveALargePenis · 2012-03-22T16:02:43+00:00

“I would like to point out that these compartments are not designated only for women,” he said. “Men can use them as well, but women have priority.” In other words, if female passengers don’t mind sharing their space with a man, he can stay. If not, they can ask him to leave or seek out a ticket controller for assistance.

Worst argument I've seen to date.

“It is to provide sufficient comfort to women,” Mr. Stahlavsky said. “This is based on Western European and Christian traditions where women have priority in taking seats. This is not any discrimination but social and cultural tradition.”

What about the other traditions? You know, the ones the feminist movement fought hard to get rid of.

rdark17 · 2012-03-22T17:24:04+00:00

I wonder what the reactions would have been if he said this instead:

“I would like to point out that these compartments are not designated only for white people,” he said. “Blacks can use them as well, but whites have priority.” In other words, if white passengers don’t mind sharing their space with a black person, he can stay. If not, they can ask him to leave or seek out a ticket controller for assistance.

AxelMan · 2012-03-22T17:01:53+00:00

Women fought to break down barriers to men-only enclaves, then as soon as they gained admittance, they wanted "women-only" spaces.

2012-03-22T19:55:10+00:00

The idea was modeled after the Austrian rail network, which has been providing “ladies-only compartments” on its trains for more than a decade.

I didn't know we had this shit on our trains.

GeneralFalcon · 2012-03-22T20:58:11+00:00

So wait, isn't this a direct parallel to making blacks sit in the back of the bus? Are we going to need a Ross Parks to stand up for the men of the Czech Republic?

firereaction · 2012-03-22T23:12:00+00:00

Never guessed that we would end up in the same position as Rosetta Parks, guess its time to start doing the same as her.

THEAdrian · 2012-03-22T18:40:29+00:00

and so it begins...

Irrel_M · 2012-03-22T17:19:07+00:00

OH NO, THAT PERSON COULD HARM ME! HE SHOULD SIT BEHIND ME OUT OF MY SIGHT. NOTHING COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG WITH GIVING A SUSPICIOUS PERSON A POSSIBLE ADVANTAGE SHOULD THEY ATTACK ME!

That's before thinking of the whole rights thing, you suspect someone so you want them behind you where you can't see? Wouldn't you want them in FRONT of you? That alone tells me I shouldn't listen to this argument.

2012-03-22T16:05:36+00:00

Women = First Class Citizens

TracyMorganFreeman · 2012-03-22T19:01:00+00:00

“I would like to point out that these compartments are not designated only for women,” he said. “Men can use them as well, but women have priority.” In other words, if female passengers don’t mind sharing their space with a man, he can stay. If not, they can ask him to leave or seek out a ticket controller for assistance.

This seems eerily familiar to blacks "being allowed to" sit at the front of the bus unless a white person wants the seat.

“It is to provide sufficient [2] comfort to women,” Mr. Stahlavsky said. “This is based on Western European and Christian traditions where women have priority in taking seats. This is not any discrimination but social and cultural tradition.”

No it's both, and it's being enforced by a state funded organization.

2012-03-22T20:35:26+00:00

So along with this...Can we have separate compartments for black and white people?

Seems appropriate as we don't want diffrent kinds of people sitting together.

yhallotharlol · 2012-03-23T05:43:49+00:00

This commenter brings up an interesting point:

"servicing overnight or early-morning routes between Prague and cities in Germany, Slovakia and Austria."

It sounds as though the seats are targeted towards women who feel uncomfortable sleeping/resting around men. In case anyone isn't familiar (god bless your soul) there are a number of paraphilias that involve masturbating publicly, ejaculating on women, and groping women while they sleep - and these things do happen often on subways and trains even in the U.S."

-Dom, NY, NY

I don't agree with the idea of ladies-first seating but it is comforting that there could potentially be a reason for this besides reinforcing old traditions.

commissar_yakov · 2012-03-24T02:23:07+00:00

Cops used to lock suffragettes in prison and beat their heads into the wall here in America but yeah this is exactly like the Holocaust, just for men though

FreddyDeus · 2012-03-22T19:24:10+00:00

"This is not any discrimination but social and cultural tradition.”

Okay. Where are my traditions then?

"Where's my fucking dinner?"

"Get your knickers down and bend over!"

"Wake up and feed that whining infant, bitch!"

"What do you mean you want money for groceries, I've got fucking beer to buy!"

"Get your arse out of that chair, the carpet won't vacuum itself you lazy whore!"

"Where's my clean shirt? I hope for your sake I do have a clean shirt."

God, men can't do anything these days.

2012-03-22T21:47:21+00:00

Lady's don't exist anymore. All they are now is women or females.

Bartab · 2012-03-23T01:49:33+00:00

Vote with your wallet.

Jesus_marley · 2012-03-23T05:55:49+00:00

What if all the men on the train just move into the ladies only cars and refuse to leave? It's one thing for them to make an unjust or discriminatory policy but you only add to its legitimacy if you choose to obey it.

2012-03-23T08:27:30+00:00

Isn't this a similar situation to the buses in Martin L. King's time!?

G-O · 2012-03-23T06:08:13+00:00

If they did this in the states, It would actually get me to start taking public transportation just to FTSU like Rosa Parks.

justaverage · 2012-03-22T16:46:54+00:00

Gentlemen have always given up their seats for ladies. This simply reinforces the tradition. This isn't discrimination against men, its the social entitlement of women, giving them respect because they are women. Remember that the Czech Republic still has strict divorce and family laws and a family culture, far stronger than their American counterparts. It is because this practice (a policy of a railway on some cars: this isn't Czech law) in a country with strong gender enforced behavioral norms that this occurs - however it could never happen in America because treating women like women is seen as discriminatory there. Furthermore the problem of immigrants and gypsies stealing things from unaccompanied women on trains is a problem in Europe, and this helps protect people from these problems

2012-03-22T20:17:32+00:00

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Title	To the back of the train with the men: Ladies-first seating in Czech Republic
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