CNN/National Women's Law Center - "Stop sex discrimination in health plan costs"

Subversive · 2012-03-21T09:21:54+00:00

When it comes to auto insurance, there's not just sex discrimination but age discrimination as well. And I wouldn't be surprised if there's racial discrimination lurking under the surface somewhere too.

Must be bloody expensive to be a young black man.

AryoBarzan · 2012-03-21T08:37:42+00:00

Hmm... Why don't they ever talk about car insurance and how young males insurance costs TRUMP that of females insurance costs?

Bobsutan · 2012-03-21T09:31:52+00:00

If it is demonstrable with sound actuarial data that women cost the insurance company more on average than men then why shouldn't they pay higher premiums?

TerriChris · 2012-03-21T13:31:22+00:00

Relevant

2012-03-21T12:47:18+00:00

here is my thing.... men use the insurance less.. unless its more than a flesh wound, you wont see a man going in for a boo boo... plus we do not have monthly visits that could cause medical issues. cramps?no.... yea i think its fair on the amount you use...

BinaryShadow · 2012-03-21T10:52:14+00:00

Dailyfail warning, but here's what it would look like with the genders reversed in the EU, where the government will ban insurance premiums by gender (period).

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1361750/Car-insurance-women-soar-25-men-face-10-CUT-EU-rules.html

An advert for Sheilas' Wheels, which is principally aimed at women, won't be able to offer cheaper car insurance to female customers after the ruling

Boo hoo. Welcome to equality.

This aims ‘in all its activities, to eliminate inequalities and promote equality between men and women’.

Conservative MEP Sajjad Karim said: ‘This ruling is utter madness. It is a setback for common sense.

MEP Sajjad Karim must hate equality then! I wonder what he would say if it was just helping women out like here in the US of A.

It is a statistical reality that young men have more accidents than women so it should be reflected in their premiums.

Doesn't matter if it's health insurance and women might pay more!

Stephen Booth, of Open Europe, said: ‘This ruling has pushed anti-discrimination legislation beyond the realms of all common sense. Unaccountable EU judges have ruled to overturn long-held national rules and increased costs for consumers in the process.

To do so in the name of equality just adds insult to injury.'

Translated: Equality sucks when it's actual equality! That's not what I signed up for!

At no stage did the case come anywhere close to the British legal or Parliamentary system – yet every single one of us must now suffer the consequences.

Not men, who will pay less (since they can't be hit with the penis-multiplier anymore). But they don't count, do they.

I love how this article bitches about the one area where women stand to lose from non-gender discrimination in insurance policies. This ruling will go for all insurance policies. Funny how these opinions are all "FREE MARKETZ!" when women stand to lose in the equality bargain, yet don't mind playing the "but I have to pay moorrrreee" when they actually consume more of the product.

Feminists in the states were a little smarter than that. Instead of looking at health care and then trying to ban all gender-based inequalities in the insurance game, they simply focused on the one area where they do pay more. THat's the "equality" that this idiot Stephen Booth signed up for.

curious67 · 2012-03-21T13:04:47+00:00

You forgot retirement. Women work less years, retire earlier, die later, Totally subsidized by men!

chavelah · 2012-03-21T12:51:59+00:00

I'm curious, where's the cries for ending "gender rating" in auto insurance premiums?

END THE GENDER RATING IN AUTO INSURANCE PREMIUMS!!!!

I'd like to see much more aggressive legislation around this issue, for all kinds of insurance. The point of having insurance is to pool together with millions of other people and spread out the risk. If INDIVIDUALS draw attention to themselves in the auto-insurance pool by getting a DUI or some other concrete INDIVIDUAL action, fine, hike their rates. They have shown that they don't take reasonable precautions in their driving. Same with individuals who smoke or are chronically obese in the the health-insurance pool - they are taking wanton and avoidable health risks with everybody else's money, and it makes sense to charge them more.

But setting different rates initially, based on nothing but age and sex? Indefensible. Should be illegal.

wskrs · 2012-03-21T15:46:51+00:00

Women need more care than men, everyone knows this. They are also more likley to use medical services for minor illness.

They should be charged more.

Men don't require birth control, we dont require PAP smears, we don't give birth, we don't require pre-natal care. Why shouldn't they pay more?

rightsbot · 2012-03-21T06:58:21+00:00

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exlex · 2012-03-21T15:03:53+00:00

Is there any evidence that women have higher health needs as opposed to merely higher health usage? Excluding the obvious maternity costs, of course.

TracyMorganFreeman · 2012-03-21T18:24:30+00:00

Well technically being a woman is a pre-existing condition.

For the same reason insurance companies charge more for pre-existing conditions even those from birth because they cost more, it makes sense to charge women more.

wavegeekman · 2012-03-22T04:04:07+00:00

Proof, it that were needed, that feminism is not about equality.

While some dictionaries say that feminism is a movement for equality, in reality it is all about advantaging (some) women at the expense of men and children.

2012-03-22T03:05:11+00:00

Once men and women pay the same, men will have to pay more to subsidize women's healthcare usage.

TheRealPariah · 2012-03-22T09:26:49+00:00

Who would have thought charging women more because they, on average, spend much more on healthcare than males is a problem? Insurance is a game of averages. Anything else is forced subsidization of the risky by the less risky. Incentivizing bad decisions usually leads to more bad decisions.

Title	CNN/National Women's Law Center - "Stop sex discrimination in health plan costs"
Author	Bobsutan
Upvotes	42
Comments	41
Date	March 21, 2012 6:57 AM UTC (14 years ago)
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