Feminists claim that city building is a patriarchal conspiracy, literally the dumbitude in this article confounds me.

rockidol · 2011-06-18T02:38:18+00:00

"Why is there always a queue for the ladies? "

Because urinals take up less space than stalls. Any other brilliant questions?

Revorob · 2011-06-18T09:45:21+00:00

As a tall man, I believe that the top deck of double deckers buses are designed by a team of ignorant short people who don't appreciate that my head hits the roof. It is definitely malicious bus design at work, and thus I demand all buses should be twice as tall to compensate for my needs, as it is unfair that my head scrapes along the ceiling. Also, sometimes my legs don't fit behind the seats properly because they are too long. Again, this is evidence of a society that is unfair to tall people.

Or maybe I'll just accept that different people of different sizes need different sized things. Ladies loo's are bigger so there are less of them in the same space. My legs and body are too long so I'll have to bend over on the bus. People are diverse, and not everything is going to fit for everyone.

/rant

FreddyDeus · 2011-06-18T11:50:34+00:00

She is quite right.

Those men who attended last year's International Men's Annual General Meeting for the Subjugation of Women will certainly remember Resolution EHB004 which clearly states the following:

All public seating shall be designed to be comfortable to men only. I don't know who was eventually selected to design this public furniture, but he was obviously a genius. I didn't realise that a seat that could be so beautifully comfortable for my male arse could be so utterly uncomfortable for female buttocks. He deserves some kind of award.

That the laws of physics shall be revised to favour men. This is my favourite part of the resolution. It's amazing how it only takes me half the time to get from my front door to a city centre office block than it does my wife. Even though we travel in the same fucking car!

I could go on, but frankly I couldn't stop laughing after reading half the first paragraph, and the rest of it is just self-centred female bitching of the 'let's complain about literally everything' variety.

likehoudini · 2011-06-18T06:26:46+00:00

(1) Groskop presumes that men aren't dropping off or pick up children to/from school, pre-school or childcare; that the problems with parenting are solely limited to women, that men don't struggle with finding a place to change their children, to bottle feed, that men struggle with transporting children in places not intended to deal with strollers or buggies. In addition it ignores trans men, who might be pregnant, breast feed or menstuate; men out with their pregnant partner, who might experience frustration when she is uncomfortable because the facilities suck; shorter men, less muscular men, disabled men, men who are ill and children of all ages, who might still experience the same problems caused by a town designed for able bodies, tall, muscular men.

(2) OThomson: What Groskop is talking about is based off research conducted by Dr. Gemma Burgess, of Cambridge University, to the Royal Geography Society, so this isn't just a couple of feminists bitching about how hard women have it. While I haven't read the report, I presume that there must be some sort of evidence supporting the arguments the author has made. If you're confunded, I suggest rereading the article with an open mind. Also, there was no mention of the partiarchy, nor did the author within the article identify as a feminist. As you would well know, you don't need to be a feminist to be interested in equality. To label this as 'feminist claim that city building is a patriarchal conspiracy' is to be inflammatory.

(3) In generaly: the article argued that, because all town planners and architects were men, they have ignored that women and men differ biologically and, as such, they have made certain presumptions when designing buildings, towns and cities. One of the examples given is the replacement of seats at train stations with sloping seats designed for a 6 foot 6 man. While some of these complaints are based on the presumption that all women are solely responsible for caring for children, the other discussion points are based in the biological difference between men and women.

mkfrey · 2011-06-18T07:29:03+00:00

Lighting?

What the fuck. Are we all offended by unflattering flourescent lights that badly? Are roads with dangerous lack of light only frequented by women?

Way to make us sound fucking incompetent.

jmnzz · 2011-06-18T00:34:13+00:00

When over 90% of fatal jobs, like CONSTRUCTION, are not dominated by men because women choose not to go into those fields then feminists can bitch about how things are built.

You know, when things are actually built women and EVERYTHING isn't built by men, then feminists can decide.

Don't hold your breath for that day to come.

No. Instead these bigots are just going to do what they always do; get the government to appease all of their inferiority complex driven gripes and force all of those "anti-women men" in construction to build everything the way feminists want.

And when men speak up they will be branded misogynists.

How many more times is this fucking cycle going to continue?

AntiFeministMedia · 2011-06-18T00:13:07+00:00

Untill there is a creche in every library, women will be the victims of the patriarchy!

_Toast · 2011-06-18T03:58:42+00:00

We have to take care of babies too. /facepalm

2011-06-18T14:38:32+00:00

You can read what appears to be the report they're talking about here. Somewhat unsurprisingly, the word "conspiracy" is nowhere to be found.

The point seems to be more that since women are underrepresented in the planning process, their specific needs are also underrepresented. The same thing happens in America, though it's usually more along class or race lines than sex or gender.

hydrogen18 · 2011-06-18T19:52:12+00:00

The author completely misses the point. City building in general is a patriarchal conspiracy by men to get women to marry them and have families with them. If it weren't for the patriarchal conspiracy of society building all the women could be out wandering in nomadic groups, foraging for food, being raped and enslaved by other groups, and being forced to raise their rapists children. Clearly, cities and society must be abolished to allow women to escape their oppressors.

2011-06-18T06:51:56+00:00

I refuse to believe that this is anything but satire. Although, I don't doubt that some women would even go as far as demand that the mountains themselves are moved for them.

It sickens me to think that she may have been payed any amount of money for this joke of an article.

ConfirmedCynic · 2011-06-18T12:09:31+00:00

"Almost all public spaces still accord the same number of square metres to male and female toilets, and because women can't use urinals, they end up with half as many toilets in the allocated space."

How's that for logic? Same area, yet half as many toilets? So (n) urinals = 0 toilets in terms of space?

Some of it isn't too unreasonable, though. If they want stations to change babies at, I don't see a problem. Better than on a park bench or (worse) a picnic table!

Title	Feminists claim that city building is a patriarchal conspiracy, literally the dumbitude in this article confounds me.
Author	OThomson
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Date	June 17, 2011 11:51 PM UTC (15 years ago)
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