Hate speech is illegal in Sweden - unless it's against white Swedish men.

Ma99ie · 2011-02-28T00:11:27+00:00

Don't you understand, "patriarchy" is not an indictment against men, just a social system where men are in power. Cough. Cough. B*llshit. There is something definately rotten in Stockholm.

ExistentialEnso · 2011-02-27T22:44:34+00:00

Most incredible, though, is the case of feminist Joanna Rytel. She wrote a most vitriolic diatribe against white Swedish men for a major Swedish newspaper. If the title of her article, "I Will Never Give Birth to a White Man" was not offensive enough, she then went on to demand "no white men, please ... I just puke on them, thank you very much" and she wrote openly of wanting someone "to talk with all night long about my hatred towards white men".

Did Ms Rytel end up behind bars for such vile hate speech? No, she didn't. She wasn't even charged, because, as the state prosecutor explained, "The purpose behind the law against incitement of ethnic hatred was to ensure legal protection for minority groups of different compositions and followers of different religions. Cases where people express themselves in a critical or derogatory way about men of ethnic Swedish background were not intended to be included in this law. Because of that, the content in this article cannot be considered incitement of ethnic hatred."

Quazz · 2011-02-27T22:52:18+00:00

Wow...

How can they even get away with all that?

You_know_THAT_guy · 2011-02-28T04:05:54+00:00

No form of speech should be illegal.

wolfsktaag · 2011-02-28T00:59:44+00:00

i cant believe they sent a man to prison for that. completely surreal. i dont want to know what that little place will be like in 10 years, at this rate

Coestar · 2011-02-28T04:19:06+00:00

This article is ridiculous and dishonest. The case against the pastor was overturned, for one thing. Further, the unnamed man who made the "Swedish girls are raped by immigrant hordes" statement was neo-Nazi Bjorn Bjorkqvist, which completely changes the meaning of the quote.

The conclusion of this article is obviously offering a false dichotomy. The author just highlights a problem with liberalism, then argues (indirectly) that the solution is conservatism. Entertaining, considering that I would say that the blasphemy laws that have been popping up around the world are firmly in the conservative camp of ideas - not too different, simply a law saying "you can't offend <insert minority>."

The simplest argument against such laws is that they tread on the concept of free speech. Why not leave off all the other ideological agenda bullshit?

EDIT: Please, read what I wrote. I am not arguing in favor of hate speech laws.

EDIT 2: It seems further clarification is needed - I am also not arguing for/against the validity of the statement made by Ms. Rytel, which is what r/MensRights is focused on.

windynights · 2011-02-28T01:35:41+00:00

Sweden is fucked up. It does everything it can to groom this international reputation for civility and tolerance. Yet on the ground the con is immediately apparent.

ENTP · 2011-02-28T04:27:51+00:00

I dislike the equating of liberal ideals with feminism, and mensrights with conservative viewpoints and propaganda, as this article and many MR articles submitted shamelessly do.

kloo2yoo · 2011-02-27T23:21:24+00:00

added to the roundup. thanks.

conciu · 2011-02-28T06:09:45+00:00

I don´t want to rain on anyones parade but how is this different from US? If you discriminate a non protected group nothing happens, if you discriminate a protected group you are in trouble.

ss_camaro · 2011-02-28T07:06:42+00:00

What are the chances that Sweden would adopt the same horrible laws? Protip: it's not women or minorities that are passing these laws.. but international tyrants with good connections to governments, banks and academia. I see it more as a campaign of demoralization, obfuscation and usurpation of western democracies. Nothing in politics is by accident. It's time that more ppl moved from symptoms to causes.

GroundhogExpert · 2011-02-28T01:54:47+00:00

It's not like you can hurt my feelings by pointing out that I am a member of the most successful group in human history. Cracker? Psssh, whatevs!

Maxplatypus · 2011-02-28T14:42:29+00:00

Now only if we could get this in the US....

2011-02-28T20:30:12+00:00

hmmm, the US and Sweden aren't that different afterall

Notsomebeans · 2011-02-28T00:34:00+00:00

Is it fair to say that Sweden is the most sexist place on Earth? Or rather, the sexiest place on earth?

jogalleciez · 2011-02-28T07:01:15+00:00

So basically, it's just like America?

2011-02-28T09:04:36+00:00

Can't see anything surprising. Just a typical leftist bullshit. If you have some other idea about it - you're delusional.

kronso · 2011-02-28T04:37:28+00:00

I'm sure it's bad there, but hey, it's Sweden. What do you expect?

Title	Hate speech is illegal in Sweden - unless it's against white Swedish men.
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Date	February 27, 2011 10:40 PM UTC (15 years ago)
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