Why do so many Red Pillers have a chip on their shoulders about not having been able to get with younger women when they were that age?

EntertainmentNeat592 · 2021-08-29T22:02:26+00:00

I observed that a lot of red pill men are hebephile/ehebephile. They have a compulsive sexual preference for teenagers and very young women who could pass for a teenager. A lot of them think women’s attractiveness value starts to go does from there age 21. Basically according to them as soon as women starts to look like a grown woman we starts to become unattractive.

Also, since they failed attract young women when they were young, they just become obsessed with fulfilling that wish for the rest of their life. Some are just extremely insecure about their sexual abilities and they just want girls who are inexperienced hoping that those girls would not know any better (it doesn’t work that way btw).

RedPillDetox · 2021-08-29T21:06:41+00:00

Well, since they put their selfworth on the amount of sex they can get and the quality of women (roughly defined as just being good looking and young) it's obvious that is mostly an ego/inferiority complex thing.

Given that most of them also fail to achieve the amount of sex they think is appropriate or the kind of women they think is the best it also speaks volumes of the self esteem of the average TRPer.

xvszero · 2021-08-30T00:45:08+00:00

A lot of them are just straight up sexists. They view woman as having little to add to their lives besides being sex objects, and they also think women with a "high body count" are gross, so young, naive, innocent women are their preference.

It's creepy as shit but it's absolutely sexism driving it. When you value women as more than just sex objects, what attracts you to them is different as well.

Melvin-Melon · 2021-08-30T06:26:44+00:00

I’ve heard a lot of old red pill guys talk about how much more “moldable” younger women are since they don’t have experience. In other words, they can’t see your red flags if they don’t know they’re red flags. So I just assume a lot of them go after younger women because it’s easier to manipulate them in to putting up with their toxic behavior.

ThePancakeJedi · 2021-08-29T22:44:41+00:00

Because they're bitter men who have no game and can't get vag

SenorTonto · 2021-08-29T21:59:32+00:00

The obsession with younger women stems from a traditional conservative POV. That younger women have lower body counts, more fertile, less baggage and can be molded to your liking more so than an older woman. That's the spark notes of it.

Unfortunately the tradcon perspective has infested the manosphere. IMO tradcon views are easily digestible because they loosely line up with evolutionary psychology concepts. The issue is that we don't live in hunter-gatherer societies nor do we live in a feudalist puritan nation. Society is more complex in the 21st century and the tradcon perspective has little utility.

Tradcon bs is just low-key propaganda

2021-08-29T22:37:56+00:00

A lot of people, not just men in general, but a LOT of people still hurt deep down because they never had the precious high school/ uni romance and love lives that media, movies and novels unconditionally promised them.

Rather than make peace with it and learn to be ready for when the time comes naturally, they instead let the resentment build into rage and still try to cling on to what they believed cheated and escaped them.

ZacKaizen · 2021-08-30T14:13:46+00:00

I wouldn't say it is so much that they have a chip on their shoulder.

I'll take this group as an example: Rollo Tomassi, Donovan Sharpe, Myron Gaines, Walter Weekes, Jonathan Hogwood, Rian Stone, and Rich Cooper. If you listen to what those guys say, they basically admit that they were terrible with women in their teens and 20s. This meant that the hot girls in their mid-20s that they wanted to get with wouldn't give them the time of day. Then they watch the standard romantic comedies where the "nice guy" gets passed over until his late 30s when the girl he drooled over in his 20s finally sees that she should have been with him the whole time. That is their fantasy (in reality, those same girls are still not giving those guys the time of day, but lets stick to their fantasy for a moment). Presumably, the guy in the RomCom has leveled up: he has made a ton of money, gotten in shape, developed confidence, and is basically a better man (a good example of this is the movie "Just Friends" with Ryan Reynolds). Now these guys think "why would I go with the girl that gave all those years to the wrong guys when I could get a newer, hotter model without all the emotional baggage?"

There is some truth to that line of thinking, if all you are thinking about is physicality. However, sex is not going to make your relationship work, and many times it is harder to relate to someone that is young enough to be your daughter! But, for these guys, they were basically sex-deprived (for various reasons) in their teens and 20s, so they fantasize about being able to make up for lost time.

vcreativ · 2021-08-30T09:50:17+00:00

I honestly think it's borderline pedo to be actually sexually involved with some 18y old at 40y+. The RP philosophy has always been a bit meh, because it draws such a caricature of itself here.

It should be noted that for most people 18-25 is a pretty chaotic time. So you might have missed out on some good stuff and quite a lot of drama. I wouldn't be too worried.

Curiously, my former Karate teacher (at 42y) was thrown out of the association because he slept with an 18y student after training her for 3y. Do the math on that.

the_sea_witch · 2021-08-30T12:53:56+00:00

Sexist men literally do see women as objects that degrade over time. That and deep insecurity. They want someone inexperienced and easier to manipulate. Women with their own income, who have standards and boundaries are hugely off putting to men who have nothing to offer.

Oistcute · 2021-08-29T23:23:03+00:00

i'll say this from the perspective of a 15-year-old. IMO younger girls have insanely high standards. it is amazingly hard to find someone young and "click" with them. Sometimes i feel like they're picky, which is okay, whatever. i still have that internal feeling that it is incredibly hard to get and maintain a relationship with a young person. tell me if I'm wrong, I'm open to constructive insight. and naturally, people want things they can't have.

seeingredagain · 2021-08-30T14:28:42+00:00

They feel that these were experiences owed to them and still feel entitled to to this day. They also feel younger women are easier to manipulate and control. Redpill is all about how to abuse and control women so pillers can get laid.

Zealousideal_Fee_231 · 2021-08-30T21:55:03+00:00

As somebody who went through that phase, it is an attempt to "catch up" to your peers. I was jealous my friends were having sex and girlfriends/boyfriends while it wasn't happening for me. Also, a thing that happens within male circles, I can't speak to female circle since I am a man, but men will put you down or make fun of you if you aren't or can't get a woman. I remember at jobs I was publicly shamed for not having a girlfriend or for not fucking random women, it's all an attempt for men to try and put you down to raise themselves. You start equating "I'm not having sex/getting a girl" to "I am not a man". I walked into work one day after having sex with a woman I met while out with some people, some of which happened to be co-workers who told somebody at work and he got all the women to clap for me as I walked in, in front of everybody. He also told them why too. It's very humiliating.

Eventually, if you do go and try to have sex with women who are 18-25 you realize that it's not bringing you happiness and have to look inward, and might have to go to therapy. Sadly a lot of men think maybe the next, hotter, younger, more attractive girl will bring them happiness.

A good video on the mindset of guys who get into pickup is done by Macabre Storytelling, it is quite long but really shows how and why guys get into it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be_Ms3nVG10

Carloverguy20 · 2021-08-31T08:38:49+00:00

Revenge of the nerd fantasy.

2021-08-30T15:15:19+00:00

While many chase younger women for validation, we should keep in mind men are biologically more attracted to younger women on average. On a superficial attraction level. That is one truth in a sea of lies regarding their half baked biology beliefs. I agree that many of these men have a chip on their shoulder and are trying to prove something. And tally up how many 20 year olds they have slept with like it means something

Just as women are more attracted to men older than them on average (not like 50 or whatever, moreso 1-5 years), but that's because of maturity. Women mature faster than men. So I don't think it's fair to shame these men for having sexual preferences. When someone hits 18, they're an adult. 18 is fairly young, and I agree it can be pretty weird when 50 year old men go after 18 year olds.

There is a bit of nuance here, the truth usually lies in the grey areas.

Personally, my fiance was 19 when we met, and I was 25. I was a bit turned off when found out she was 19, my number was at least 20. But she was a keeper for sure so I pursued her anyway. (Mind you I had the ability to attract women my own age). You wouldn't believe the kind of shaming and judgement I received due to our age difference, wondering why I wouldnt find someone my own age. In my personal experience, if someone is old enough to be dating it's their business. But yes, pretty sad when older men tally up how many 18-25s they have slept with for validation, it's insecurity for sure

PlayfulLawyer · 2021-09-03T20:16:22+00:00

A lot of men tend to see women as sex objects and a lot of women tend to see men as success objects so even if you were able to get the girls in your teens and early twenties, whether you are a guy that had to build up your value or whether you're just naturally attractive , if you have the option to get 18 to 24 year old women, and you're just looking to have fun why wouldn't you indulge in the best for yourself🤷‍♂️

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