What are some good book recommendations about arguments?

PutABabyInThat · 2021-12-06T06:08:04+00:00

You stick your nose into everyone's business, try to tell them how to run their lives, and you're expecting them not to become defensive?

And now, even after they've gotten upset and basically told you to fuck off.... you're here looking for different ways to get them to live their lives the way you think they should.

You're clearly retarded... what makes you think you're qualified to tell anyone anything?

I wish I could do this in a better way

Maybe you should ask yourself why you feel like you need to do any of this in the first place.

themostgianthorse · 2021-12-06T05:17:18+00:00

Schedule a therapy appointment for your brother but go in his place to discuss your caretaking.

Reread WISNIFG & NMMNG. It didn’t sink in.

Cloudy_Pirate · 2021-12-06T14:11:48+00:00

"When Other People Say 'No' I Feel Guilty" by Shuttha Fuccup.

mrpmonk · 2021-12-06T05:53:03+00:00

My fellow autistic brother, you have to kill your ego first and dive into any book with an open mindset. Just like you may have missed some important points from the books you mentioned, maybe you will miss them from any book we recommend.

My point is. like the other commenter mentioned, focus on the basics. You are not losing arguments, you are losing your frame and get into a spiral of verbal diarrhea as you let go of your anger once when you open your mouth. Have you considered working on you frame while working on your convincing argument skills?

Praexology · 2021-12-06T06:25:47+00:00

but rather discussing financial issues with my father, recommending psychotherapy to my brother (despite denial), my sister's need to improve her driving skills before killing someone,

since the people around me already respect me enough to know their lanes.

Sounds like you need to learn to stay in yours.

If you aren't willing to physically or legally strong arm them into submission, and they don't care to hear your points, there is nothing you can do to pursue your outcome. Theres a lot you can do to shoot yourself in the foot and make people not want to help you out or be a provate advocate.

Basically, stfu.

Redpillbrigade17 · 2021-12-06T14:52:54+00:00

Hahahaha

Just watch Bill Burr and you’ll learn: never argue with a woman. See my post a while ago with a few supplemental commandments to the 16 of Poon.

ragnar_Daneskjold · 2021-12-06T16:04:09+00:00

Holy shit man! This level of neediness is really fucking awful. Your NEED to have others see things your way is the thing you should focus on snuffing out.

When you read WISNIFG or NMMNG you need to realize that everything in these books can also be used by the people around you. Sounds like they all have the lessons internalized better than you.

And your in laws won't give you more childcare? Hire a fucking babysitter. A hot one.

ghostCanape · 2021-12-06T16:07:00+00:00

Read "Crucial Confrontations."

RStonePT · 2021-12-07T02:19:11+00:00

Stick to this place, you'll learn to stop keeping score and start being attractive

AlphaChameleon777 · 2021-12-06T16:31:43+00:00

I read something, somewhere. Let's see what was it.

Oh, yeah.

You can't change others, just yourself.

Redpdaddy · 2021-12-06T20:04:17+00:00

Son. Just don't argue.
Did you really read "How to Win Friends and Influence People"?
Fuck it, waste of time.

justpickanyusername · 2021-12-09T03:52:34+00:00

It's been ages since I've posted. Not sure if I will even log back in to check comments. Dusted off the old Reddit login just to poke my head in.

First off, you shouldn't be trying to control this many people. You can influence people at best. The direct approach never works. Everyone is too defensive to be receptive.

Listen to this Jocko podcast which explains why the indirect approach is always better than being direct.

However, you might not be ready for it. The fact that you want to "win" various "arguments" is probably the biggest problem. Can't remember the last time I was in an "argument". You're doing it wrong if that keeps happening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=remurnxiHgU

I don't know who you are or whether any of this will make a difference. Anyways, good luck if I don't ever login here for another few years.

SBIII · 2021-12-06T09:53:53+00:00

Your biggest issue here is that nobody likes taking advice from angry midgets.

ReddJive · 2021-12-07T01:37:54+00:00

No what you want is to satisfy your ego and that you know best.

First, there is no argument winning in this world. none. The majority of people believe they know everything, or at least know about everything thanks to the internet. What has happened is most have confused belief for knowledge. It's why when you argue (more accuaretly discuss) and you try to refute or address a point someone made you aren't having an intellectual discussion. You are in fact attacking someone's deep seated belief. Their value system. This is a whole other thing.

Just as you BELIEVE that you should, need, or feel like your advice is worth being heard. You feel entitled to butt in.

When you act with entitlement, you deserve disappointment.

Learn to STFU.

thisisme0007 · 2021-12-08T18:17:52+00:00

I'd suggest you read "Goodnight Moon" by Margaret Wise Brown and any of the pigeon books by Mo Willems. They are all written at a level you should be able to understand and apply easily.

SelectAirline · 2021-12-06T23:35:50+00:00

Idk... "DEERing For Dummies" maybe?

DeplorableRay · 2021-12-10T22:54:28+00:00

Catcher In The Rye, by JD Salinger. You're quite the Holden.

Title	What are some good book recommendations about arguments?
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Date	December 6, 2021 4:57 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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