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Petition to remove judge who shamed elderly male cancer patient for not cleaning yard quickly enough: over 166,000 signatures already

goodmod

January 17, 2022
2078 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.change.org/p/remove-judge-alexis-krot
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Title Petition to remove judge who shamed elderly male cancer patient for not cleaning yard quickly enough: over 166,000 signatures already
Author

goodmod

Upvotes 2078
Comments 87
Date January 17, 2022 5:57 AM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/s5wkbp/petition_to_remove_judge_who_shamed_elderly_male/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/petition-to-remove-judge-who-shamed-elderly-male.1097112
https://theredarchive.com/post/1097112
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Comments

[–]Artic144 275 points276 points277 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

She's an elected judge. That petition won't do squat. I still signed it though. Only ways to get rid of her is to have her voluntarily resign, be recalled, or lose her next election.

[–]mactenaka 89 points90 points91 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Does Michigan have a recall? Generally I thought judges were removed by impeachment

[–]Artic144 33 points34 points35 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes they do. Long complicated process but it is an option. An impeachment is reserved for criminal matters. What she did was disgusting but you would honestly have a fight on your hands to say it was criminal, given the discretion judges have in sentencing.

[–]Senuf 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There are other things people can do. If her name and face (and the issue in this post) are known around her home and work, shops can refuse her service and people can refuse her favours.

[–]goodmod[S] 66 points67 points68 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The petition itself won't do anything. But it could be brought up at her next election campaign.

[–]Artic144 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It better be brought up at her next election. If her opponent doesn't they would be just as incompetent as she is.

[–]vhisic 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

if nothing else having that many people tell you how horrible you are shoud have you do some self reflection, might be less of a cunt next time.

[–]AzLibDem 39 points40 points41 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I read that there is no recall, and she's not up for re-election until 2026.

She needs a good old-fashioned shunning; restaurants and other business should tell her to go elsewhere.

[–]Artic144 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's an option for a recall. It's just complicated, and sometimes more challenging than seeking an alternative. As for the rest of your comment, absolutely. If she values people's views of an alleyway more than the battle of 72yo fighting cancer aka literally for his life, she needs to find another career.

[–]bfte2 99 points100 points101 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Judge looks like she couldn't start a lawnmower even if her life depended on it.

[–]fiercealmond 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah wonder how quickly she'd clean the same space given no help

[–]alwaysneverjoshin 89 points90 points91 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Burhan Chowdhury recieved a ticket from the city of Hamtramck for an unkept alleyway, however as he was explaining to the judge that he couldn’t keep up with yard work due to the fact that he had cancer. As seen in the linked video below, Mr. Chowdhury was out of breath and apologized as well as said since then he had help and cleaned the alleyway. The judge, Alexis G. Krot, shamed him, spoke over him, and told him he could not use cancer as an excuse. She has a history of being bigoted to immigrants.

[–]JayMeadows 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

OK, but... who was the fucker that even reported his yard in the first place!?

[–]Training-Celery3946 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Honestly prolly someone who looks like her

[–]RossParka 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It could be anyone who lived nearby - who might not even have known he was sick.

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"can't use cancer as an excuse"

um...

[–]RossParka -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

told him he could not use cancer as an excuse

I watched the video, which is only 2 minutes long, and she didn't say that.

My guess is that she didn't even understand that he had cancer. It was extremely difficult to understand anything that he said because of a combination of his accent and audio dropouts. He twice said something that sounded perhaps like "can-SAR-per-son," one word with the stress on the second syllable, but even after listening several times I'm not totally sure I know what it means. His son said he was sick but didn't mention cancer.

Also I see nothing to suggest sexism was involved in this. Racism is plausible.

[–]Loki_The_Coyote 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I dunno, I can clearly hear him say "I'm a cancer patient and I am very weak"

I didn't hear her say that though either, which is weird because I swear I heard it the first time I watched it on a different sub, but I thought it was a bit longer too, wonder if this is a shortened version maybe?

And I agree, this doesn't really seem like it's a men's rights issue, definitely struck me more as a race issue, she also has a history of complaints of racism against her.

[–]maluminse 71 points72 points73 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So sad that there are these tyrants that infect our judicial system. Happens too often.

[–]MyBlades 160 points161 points162 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Soon on r/TwoXChromosomes: "200,000 incels sign a petition to remove a female judge, proving that fragile male egos can't stand a strong woman in power"

[–]Huffers1010 63 points64 points65 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There's a certain kind of highly politicised person (and this happens in both men and women) who confuse "strong" with "unpleasant." It's shockingly common.

[–]upsidedownbackwards 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If someone describes themselves as a strong person I'm going to take that as "I'm an abrasive person who is okay with pissing off people around me, that's YOUR problem".

There's plenty of strong people out there. They don't have to say they're strong people though.

[–]bfte2 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

r/DoubleChromosomes.

[–]heyyy-kiddo 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Banned. Reddit moment.

[–]innerpeice 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What is that?

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[–]Connect_Stay_137 34 points35 points36 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I bet she's never had to clean a yard.

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[–]goodmod[S] 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I haven't seen many results from these petitions either. Still, it takes only a minute to sign, and demonstrates the depth of public opinion, as well as publicising the injustice, so it's better than nothing.

[–]Space_Exploring7_6 43 points44 points45 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I am from Spain, but still gonna sign it... People that represent the law and justice should be the first ones to abide it, and even more than civil citizens, if you ask me...

Thinking you are above the basic rules by which a society conducts itself because you're a judge is the worst illness possible for that said society. The power they have must not make them believe they may behave as tyrants, be it a judge or a police officer.

I mean, I cannot imagine myself kneeling when speaking to a police officer, as I feel (from what I see on TV, mind you) US citizens do when speaking with an authority. Yes, as representatives of the law they deserve an amount of respect, but not for me to treat them as holy beings.

[–]erik-the-first 25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But feminists say we need more female judges so we can get more man haters on the bench. Might he time to rethink that angle.

[–]XenoX101 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I don't know if this is necessarily about him being a man, but this is an incredible display of lack of self awareness on the judge's part. Repeatedly calling the man "shameful" while at the same time callously ignoring his serious health condition. There must be something seriously wrong with her to value the appearance of an alley way more than treating a vulnerable elderly man with dignity and respect. I suspect if she isn't a sociopath, she at the least has strong tendencies towards one, because showing such cold heartedness is clearly not normal even for a judge.

[–]LEGALinSCCCA 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She's absolutely a sociopath.

[–]Auhaden72190 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Signed

[–]SnooPets2522 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm from Russia, but I signed this petition because what this judge did is not acceptable

[–]gumpton 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Is this an issue of mens rights?

[–]elebrin 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Apparently his yard had previously been maintained by his son or some other relative, who was traveling at the time and couldn't do the work to maintain the property.

On the one hand, he could have called a service or asked a neighbor. On the other, the way she spoke to him was just fucking cruel. 72 is getting up there for a man - our life expectancy is somewhere around 75 so this guy is getting close to beating the odds.

[–]Bubbly_Success9403 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Another woman in power using it to shit on men.

[–]Obl2sk 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She’s very obviously a racist. As soon as she saw the man and his son her entire demeanor changes.

[–]omegaphallic 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Singed.

[–]Senuf 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Singed

Which song?

[–]MotherAce 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

At first I was incredulous to the claim, but after seeing that video. What absolute despicable reaction. Did she even listen to him? Maybe she has some cancer blocking her ear canals?

Think she would have accepted that excuse for herself?

[–]BuddhasRoadTrip 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Fat, disgusting Hamplanet.

[–]Mother-Key582 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s too nice!

[–]JayMeadows 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bet

[–]hvacsportsdad 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Could this be reviewed by the BAR on an ethics violation? Correct me if I am wrong, but Don't Judges have to be on the state BAR to be able to be a judge.

[–]amazonallie 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Signed

[–]OH-Kelly-DOH-Kelly 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Where do I sign?

[–]Dreamedcargaming 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow...

[–]shmorpz 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

holy shit what a cunt, the video doesn't do her any favors.

[–]lowsodiummonkey 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This behavior by a judge usually means they’re doing something wrong (possibly illegal) in their own life. I believe there was a female judge in the same state a couple of years ago who acted like a tyrant in her courtroom to be found out later she was having an affair with a prosecutor and doing other questionable behavior.

[–]MadPooter 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What does this have to do with men's rights?

[–]Practical-Rip6471 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A noble effort, but I'm from the UK so would be fraudulent for me to take part and only serve her case!

[+]Based_Hootless -22 points-21 points-20 points 4 years ago (37 children) | Copy Link

No. Fuck this. Sell your house if you can’t take care of it. People need to realize when it’s time to retire and downgrade the living situation.

[–]Karissa36 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I see your point. Really. Except in this case the elderly gentleman is supposed to clean an alley. What happens when your property borders an alley is all kinds of scuzzy people drop their junk on it. Why pay fees and drive to a junkyard, when we can just drive 6 blocks and dump it there? So there is a good chance that he didn't even obstruct the alley to begin with.

[–]Based_Hootless 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Then he should complain to the city about his obligation, not just blow it off.

[–]AzLibDem 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Here's hoping you're that motivated when you get cancer.

[+]Based_Hootless -10 points-9 points-8 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Do you seriously think the judge should just ignore the law because the guy has cancer? Is there an exemption policy for maintaining a decent yard? Gtfoh

[–]Skeith154 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

There are exemptions for reasonable excuses. The man had already dealt with the issue.

A judge is suppose to fairly hand out the law rather then follow it to the letter. It why we have them cause laws alone are often unflexible. You need a person who can empathize with people and realize were a law should bend to meet the needs of a person.

This man's first concern is defeating cancer, not killing himself clearing an alley. Hell, he might not have been home in some time and didn't know about the issue.

Now, you, on the other hand are a retarded little bullyband should rethink your life if that's how you react to people being mistreated. Suck a dick.

[+]Based_Hootless -8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

You dipshit. A judge is absolutely supposed to follow the law to the letter. Idiot.

[–]Whatdoin27 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Shut the fuck up. Grow some fucking compassion. People like you aren't humbled in life. You can tell. Bet you never had to face shit in life.

Those that don't know struggle shouldn't say a fucking thing. Next....

[–]Based_Hootless 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You are a massive cock sucker to be making assumptions about people you don’t know. What have you done to help the elderly or people with cancer? Or do you just expect their neighbors to tolerate an unkempt property?

[–]Whatdoin27 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yet, you're talking that same shit with the same energy to people right here because you want to be edgy by treating cancer patients like shit because you have some twisted version of a god complex.

How the fuck do you expect a regular 70 something old person to do all that? Are you trolling or are you really this fucking stupid?

What have I done? Easy. I have compassion and would easily help ANYONE in need, as I have my entire life when I had the chance.

You're making assumptions about the guy yourself you fucking hypocrite. It's obvious you're trolling or you haven't dealt with struggle.

[–]Based_Hootless 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m not making assumptions about that guy the op is about a judge. It’s not the judges problem the guy is sick. Sucks but it’s not her problem.

[–]RedTheCat1 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

calm down, Judge Krot!!!

[–]ThatOneCrusader1 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He had cancer.

[–]7SM 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Fuck you downgrade.

If he owns the property outright there likely is no option that is truly cheaper right now.

[–]Based_Hootless -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Ok then I guess the county has no option other than giving him a ticket, you stupid dickhead.

[–]7SM 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How about counties shouldn’t de facto own land and property taxes on a home for living shouldn’t exist?

[+][deleted] 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Based_Hootless 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Did you seriously just report me for harassment after YOU called ME a moron and told me to shut up? You are one pathetic piece of shit.

[–]Whatdoin27 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Get laid.

[–]Based_Hootless 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Do you say that to women you disagree with as well, or only the men?

[–]Whatdoin27 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I say it to ANY unhinged fucking psychopath such as yourself. Just like that judge. You both are the same. No sexism here buddy. You're just one of the many making something out of nothing. Your kind are the true idiots and are why humanity is held back.

Remember that.

[–]Based_Hootless 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

You’re making shit up and reading stuff that isn’t there. The judge did the right thing to hold that guy accountable. If you think that makes me an unhinged psychopath, you’re the one with the problem, not me.

[–]Whatdoin27 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Classic twist in merit a TRUE narcissist tries to pull. Everytime. Not even further touching this. Good day.

[–]Based_Hootless 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Dude nothing you’re saying makes any sense. You think I’m making assumptions about this guy. What assumptions? I’m just saying he should take care of his property and if he doesn’t he deserves a ticket. Seriously I think you’re the narcissist here, making insults and assumptions about me, then claiming I’m the one doing what you’re doing. Fucking weirdo.

[–]Whatdoin27 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

K you retarded fuck. You lost bud. Own it. Eat a dick. Bye ya little bitch. 😂😂😂😂😂

[–]Bone-Juice 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

What kind of horrible person does one have to be to think that yard work is more important then the man's health?

[–]Based_Hootless -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What kind of piece of shit do you have to be to think someone shouldn’t have to obey the law because he’s sick? Is it his neighbors fault he has cancer?

[–]Bone-Juice 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Anyone who thinks yard work is more important than someone's health is a piece of shit. Full stop.

[–]Based_Hootless -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh and I said that? I said he should sell the property and downgrade.

[–]Training-Celery3946 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Woah triggered bitch alert

[–]Based_Hootless 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Shut up dickhead. I feel bad for this guy’s neighbors it’s not their fault he’s old and refuses to move to an assisted care facility

[–]Training-Celery3946 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol you sound like a bitch bruh

[–]Training_Position642 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Amazing I'm so happy

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