This Netflix show got me very angry for several reasons…..
But I realised how he was able to continue doing what he did.
Whether it sounds controversial or not these women were financially enabling him to target more women.
This is why it’s very important for women to take a backseat financially when dating and to keep finances separate.
Especially if you’re not married or serious.
Women did not join the workforce to throw money at con artist struggling Tinder dates . It was to cover our own back.
Manipulators often want to rush you into everything. Sharing money. Kids. Marriage. Moving in together.
There is always a sacrifice they want you to make. For their benefit.
All before you’re comfortable or whilst you get this niggling feeling something isn’t right.
They will get very angry at resistance or you slowing things down. Bc you’re onto them.
The swindler immedatiely wanted to fly them out without barely knowing them, Red Flag.
Manipulators always lovebomb you upfront wanting to get more out of you later
They said he seemed very charming like they’ve known eachother for years. This is more often than not a red flag a man has had ample experience reading and manipulating people.
Genuine men should seem a lot less scripted
Always stay alert when a man is excessively charming but gets very angry when you set a boundary.
This ‘charming’ swindler gets very angry and pushy when someone hesitates to appease him . He gets unhinged
That is a sign this clown is used to getting his way. Controlling , insecure liar, aggressive when questioned.
In some cases you cannot prevent these things but in this case they could have, by simply keeping their guard up and refusing to lend him money.
Instead they willingly gave him access to their bank account. And there was written proof of this. Stupid decision.
You should also not be gloating about having a high income fast or all your qualifications / fancy things and your super nice house in expensive areas - because broke men, leeches and con artists are listening.
Broke men will just target/ date you to emotionally and financially manipulate you.
You aren’t here to audition for him.
The way some Pickmeisha’s talk on early dates it’s like they’re trying to audition for a job- spilling all their earnings, achievements and work history. All their favourite brands.
For women this can come across desperate. And naive.
He’s the candidate. Not you.
Don’t volunteer that info so early.
Once they have that money it’s then easier and cheaper for them to target and trick more women.
As mentioned in the show this guy got a laughably short sentence and his victims are STILL paying their debts back.
This is because they gave him unfettered access to their bank account details which every bank WARNS against.
Regardless of him being a bastard this was stupid on their part.
If you open a joint account with a man or take out loans for him on your behalf (even from a joint account) you are LIABLE to pay them back in most cases. Even if he can’t.
I do not find it funny or cute how stupid / wreckless these grown women were being.
Especially given that men are less trustworthy.
They were doing something every single bank warns against. To prevent fraud.
Everytime I get a new bank card the letter warns me not to share my PIN with anyone. This is why.
Also if you admit this or there’s written proof of you sharing this youre doomed in court.
All he told them was that he had ‘enemies’ and they handed it over.
They automatically trusted his story and didn’t even ask why this man supposedly had enemies in the first place .
He was using classic seedysalesman tactics panicking and rushing them into parting with large sums.
Manipulative men will try hikack your emotions in a compromised state so they can rush you into permanent decisions that benefit him.
Also if you have anxiety or other mental issues that can affect your decision making - always run these scenarios by trusted outsiders so they’re aware of what’s happening & what he’s asking of you. Before you act .
But listen when they warn you
The Tinder Swindler was not going for FDS type women either from what I see.
Women who would ask more questions and vet him more thoroughly.
He was going for high income naive Pickmeisha’s a lot of times.
Women who he knew had money and expendable income…..but were perhaps lonely and desperate to find a man with similar lifestyles.
In my opinion their first mistake was being on Tinder.
Out of all dating apps Tinder is probably the worst one of them all. Though they all carry a risk.
It’s common knowledge by now that Tinder is very much a hookup app for loser men.
Yet these women were high income grown adults looking for serious relationships.
Because of this I’m now seeing the amateur fuckboys migrating to Hinge & co, apps that are supposedly for ‘serious dating’.
Because it’s become too obvious Tinder is for casual sex . They’re not getting the same access to certain women as before.
This is why I don’t agree with women boasting about how they don’t use social media bc part of the reason FDSers are in the loop is by being online.
We all found each other by being online and exchanged our notes.
You don’t have to be super public on social media but checking in on female platforms under a private account & keeping up with news is advisable.
Also I’d like to point out that men with no social media presence are more suspicious than not.
Especially if they seem to lack local friends or local ties-it’s likely he’s a loner that spends his time as a womaniser or down the red pill. Or doing nefarious shit.
If he’s super paranoid about technology/ being stalked yet has multiple phones and is very into techy nerdy stuff & overly cautious over his laptop and phone - also very suspicious.
They often have multiple aliases bc they are running through countless women.
You will find bad womanisers will get funny awkward looks from local retail staff (especially in supermarkets) and will want to DRIVE you to remote places out of the way from their home/ city centre.
I find they get sheepish in shops near their home and want to get out fairly fast.
They are always going to do things to keep victims apart and from finding each other.
Many criminals and con artists don’t want victims finding each other.
Or finding any information about them.
Many of them change names and locations which is why you can’t find them online.
So don’t fall for their ‘I’m low-key and hate social media’ nonsense when they met you on a dating app and you catch them on a secret social media account.
Even if he’s a supposed traditional country guy - they still have internet connection and the ability to cheat .
Likewise men with glitzy squeaky clean larger than life social media profiles are suss and should be vetted properly.
Followers can be bought and things can be deleted so don’t assume his 200k following means anything.
I noticed the swindlers profile was very coy on details but full of flashy images.
It does look a bit too good to be true.
Part of the scrotes migration to more ‘serious apps’ is because they know women on Hinge are less down for hookups and therefore they have less competition.
The reality is though that if these men are on one dating app- they’re on ALL the others too.
They use different apps for different uses. And don’t leave them in relationships
Tinder & bumble to find easier targets, Hinge to find women who arent looking for hookups.
They’re using them all to get their cake and eat it.
People will argue with me on this because so and so friend found a supposedly good guy on Tinder.
But the reality is the majority of women have more horror stories than good tales to share.
It is common knowledge that Tinder is a hookup app by now.
If women abandoned these apps in large numbers these men would not able to swindle as many victims so easily.
It’s just too easy for them to swipe on Tinder and find victims across the country & beyond to leech money
Also some of the ‘HVM’ women claim to meet meet on Tinder are what we would consider to be low value men.
Please understand your family/friends idea of a ‘decent guy’ may be very different to yours and her standards might be in the gutter due to low self esteem.
They may also not be telling the truth about what they do for him .
Some are throwing large amounts of money at him , ignoring red flags and acting like his mom.
It annoys me how many time’s I have to repeat to Pickmeisha’s that Tinder is an app known for fuckboys looking for casual sex and scammers.
But honestly this problem is bigger than Tinder now and I predict more serial cheater fuckboys will swarm to Hinge bc of this.
Even more reason to stay off the apps. Lol
Also I noticed the swindler victims who were not that wealthy were not as financially useful to him though they could still take out loans on his behalf.
This is why he seemed to lovebomb the wealthy ones much more and spent much more time meeting up with them building fake trust.
What was immediately suspicious to me was this supposedly wealthy busy businessman ….. was willing to ‘stay close friends’ with his dates even they didn’t want him romantically.
I’m sorry but there’s always an agenda for a man keeping you around even as a supposed ‘friend’.
As a general rule the vast majority of men do not keep women who rejected them to stay friends with…..unless they have a alternate use for them.
If one of the main victims listened to the advice that ‘men are not your friends’ she could of avoided being scammed for large sums of money.
This is why benefit of the doubt does not pay with men.
Lesson number one: do not advertise your wealth to men fast
Why? Because it looks desperate for starters. Like you’re trying to impress him. He’s there to impress you.
Number two- you are a walking advertisement to scam artists and broke men looking to use you.
Now this doesn’t make him any less of a manipulative bastard.
But some of his lies were VERY see through with just a little prodding.
First off he is very low key on details and keeps repeating the fact ‘he has enemies’.
I’m sorry I was laughing at this part bc it didn’t require much imagination for him to fool them.
Just the statement ‘I have enemies chasing me’ was enough to scare them and open their bank account.
Immediately they believe his financial problems are theirs.
The Pickmeisha’s involved immediately get emotionally invested in his ‘enemies’ story when he is being VERY coy on details
You have to ask if this man is rich why doesn’t he have friends to loan from or a backup plan ?
Why is his immediate reaction to hound romantic partners or female friends ?
Rich men tend to have money stashed in different places or business partners they could loan from - they always have hidden money stashed & people who can handle shit for them
I used to frequent a bar in a certain city full of high income men and I could tell who was bluffing and who was legit quite fast
Multi dating was key to me weeding them out quickly
I used to frequent one bar that was reknown for only letting wealthy men as it was pricey but ofc a few scrotes would slip through the net
Well often you could sniff them out by behaviour
But sometimes you were drunk when you took their number and would leave serious vetting to the next day
I would wake up with 8 random numbers messaging me and bc of that I could objectively see who legit and who wasn’t
One guy was physically attractive but his vocab & manners was off for a supposedly wealthy guy and within five minutes admitted he just got out of jail for money laundering / dealing with a fake car business
So that was him done lol and explained why he was pictured next to a flashy car which aroused doubts
I also remembered him being a bit over dressed
Another was legit and had properties all over the city
This one had worked his way up so easy to get on with
I actually liked him as a person- was quite funny and polite
Well he was rolling in it & much better mannered
He would do stuff like send an Uber luxe and ring me asking me to come some five star restaurant I mentioned or high end places he frequented
That’s because I was keeping him on a long stick - I wasn’t that available bc I was genuinely busy
He was fun to hang with but he knew I had plenty options in the area & I was too busy with college (he was my age) so we lost contact
He lived on one of the most expensive streets in that city but it hadn’t gone to his head- if he had an attitude I wouldn’t of dated him at all.
Never put these men on a pedestal for having money.
There’s other men with money. They still have to compete. Go to areas where they’re concentrated and they don’t have the same leverage.
Vet character. And let them do the work.
Don’t do men favours they don’t deserve it, don’t make it cheaper to play you.
This one had Instagram but was not flashy - no pictures of watches and cars but some tagged in local restaurants and pics of him abroad with his friends I met . It wasn’t giving flashy trash - more quiet wealth.
The worst wealthy men I met were coked up finance bros- I could tell by their aggression/rudeness and they would drop their mask very fast .
Those men hire prostitutes and hate women. Violent. Pornsick. Misogynist. Avoid.
But yeah if you’re dating wealthy men especially as a wealthy woman don’t get sucked in by one man lovebombing you too quick and keep your basket open bc some are rich from scamming or are in the drugs trade . They will scam you too. Or bring drama to your family.
Also don’t internalise men treating you like crap on dating apps as most of them are low value - get out and speak to multiple men in one night and vet harshly the next day.
Let these men know they have COMPETITION.
It’s not a given they get you.
All my best options came out of doing this. I was just having fun enjoying my night socialising.
Literally giving zero fucks talking to multiple groups of men. Even in front of eachother. (Get some male audacity in you).
Letting them visibly see their competition in the wild. Putting myself in the spotlight. Lol. It really gives you an advantage that apps don’t.
I’ve had lots of loser men try to lowball in my past too or whinge at doing the bare minimum - guys who I wasn’t that warm on or were lucky to even get a chance …. and I’ve met attractive / wealthy men who leap at meeting my standards no hassle.
I will turn them down if I don’t see longterm chemistry either. Don’t be desperate and understand you’re making a big decision. And cutting off potentially better options by being with them.
So don’t believe men’s lies about you being delusional or them being the best you can get.
It’s usually undesirable men who have the worst attitude and most audacity. Hence why try to cling after ruining it.
Just cos they don’t see their competition doesn’t mean it died.
Don’t be afraid to talk to multiple men bc they are absolutely leaving their baskets wide open even in relationships. The more options you have, the more objective you will stay when vetting.
All my worst mistakes came from being tired with dating and zooming in on one guy too fast - it’s in slimey men’s incentive to isolate you ASAP and steal all your attention. They cut you off from options before you find out they’re a time wasting pos.
If you feel tired from dating, put it on the backseat and focus on enjoying yourself and going new places - bc you’re more likely to meet ppl that way - less pressure.
Also in big cities where ppl have more anonymousity you have to vet harder bc there are lots of bluffers - it’s too many targets for them.
This isn’t to say you can’t become a target with all this vetting bc you can.
It’s not your fault these losers exist but it is your responsibility to try become a difficult target for these users and protect yourself where possible.
Lending men large sums is not protecting yourself
You’re enabling them to shit on you and scam more women. This is why we tell you not to split.
What was disappointing for me about this show…
At the very end one of the worst most tone deaf Pickmeishas said she was straight back on Tinder after all that. Dating men on Tinder straight away. She even grinned as she said it.
I could tell she was a bit unhinged to be honest bc the average woman would be put off apps for life and be a bit traumatised.
Thanks to her help that guy got very rich, continued to scam other women , received only a short sentence (bc of another woman) and was back to business.
The victims are still paying their debts off. Whilst he walks free.
She didn’t see a problem with what she did at all.
She found it perfectly normal she loaned this shark thousands of pounds.
She didn’t see her desperation and naivety being a huge factor which enabled him to scam more women and get away with it.
Being swindled out of thousands and humiliated…..hasn’t put her off using dating aka hookup apps at all.
I could not believe it. This is an example of a Pickmeisha who refuses to learn from their mistakes.
That final woman was dangerously naive and still is.
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