'I wanted to get my tubes tied at 22 but doctor blocked me – it's sexist' -- Men have been denied vasectomies forever due to being too young. Yet, it's "sexist" for a woman to receive equal treatment

EmirikolWoker · 2022-06-24T07:41:52+00:00

Would you look at that, asking "what is the situation for men?" causes the sexism of the original statement to disappear entirely.

arrouk · 2022-06-24T09:46:03+00:00

This actually highlights one of the problems we all face. The misuse of words like sexism.

If everyone stopped being so divided, a united front can be formed to get change. As long as people are blaming the other sex nothing will be changed because they are not realy the cause.

dw87190 · 2022-06-24T07:15:50+00:00

Had this exact conversation before, this is exactly how feminists think (unsurprisingly). And if you bring up the fact that girls get the pill as young they want without question, yet boys of the same age have no option for themselves, you can expect the same hypocritcal response, followed by a very unsurprising mislabel of "creep"

happyness423 · 2022-06-24T07:30:00+00:00

It’s “sexist” whenever she doesn’t get what she wants.

electriccflower · 2022-06-24T07:35:48+00:00

If we let all young women have their tubes tied, will they promise never to blame a doctor for not doing anything to stop them, when they get regrets at 30?

63daddy · 2022-06-24T16:09:33+00:00

Refusing to sterilize someone because they are young is age discrimination, not sexism. Young men run into the same thing.

It really says something when women feel a need to label something as sexism when it’s not.

CawlinAlcarz · 2022-06-24T12:29:12+00:00

Anyone who thinks this is sexism is a dolt. If ANYTHING it's "ageism" (if there is such a word). A male at 22 with fewer than 2 kids would have just as tough a time getting a vasectomy.

In reality, the Dr. is just protecting themself from future lawsuits.

Don't talk to me about informed consent and all that shit, yes it exists, but yes assclown courts ignore even more binding agreements chasing the judge's personal vision of morality all the time.

Later on if Susie Tubestied or Vinnie Vasectomy has a change of heart and regrets the decision they made at 22 (an age before their prefrontal cortexes were fully developed) and decides to sue the Dr. because they're now effectively sterilized (more likely that the male is infertile because the woman can still have her eggs harvested), a judge might say "It doesn't matter, Dr. Evil, if you informed the patient of the immoral act of his/her sterilization, because it was unethical and immoral to do that operation on them at this age, knowing they had no children!"

I wouldn't risk my license and career over a 22 year old's elective surgery decision either, and if you put yourself in the shoes of a physician, you have to at least see their point.

There are some physicians that will do that though, and it is a personal decision for the physician to make. In any case, it is NOT, repeat NOT sexism if the physician decides not to do it. Go find one that will.

bilgediver · 2022-06-24T14:08:03+00:00

She's entitled to force a surgeon to perform an operation on her, apparently.

Your rights end where it conflicts with someone else's rights.

Surgeons have the right to refuse to perfom an elective surgery that has nothing to do with the overall health of the patient.

lasciate · 2022-06-24T08:21:51+00:00

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veedub447 · 2022-06-24T12:33:07+00:00

Mrs. Gynaecologist, Oliva stated: "I do find it strange though that a woman would be so dismissive of another woman's wishes. She didn't offer to hear me out or really even discuss the ins and outs of the procedure and just went on to tell me why she wouldn't do it."

DirtyPartyMan · 2022-06-24T14:21:01+00:00

The question I received: “But don’t you want to have kids?”

I was asked two more times before they agreed to do the vas.

Rol9x · 2022-06-24T10:31:14+00:00

Let her live with her own choice!

Oldgamer1807 · 2022-06-24T16:11:29+00:00

I'm not sure I can go with this one. My fiance had her tubes tied at 28 after having two kids, and the first doctor gave her pushback. We got lucky with the delivery doctor and they were able to do it pretty quickly after the delivery of her second child.

But they fucked it up. She had a crazy heavy period a couple years later and after visiting the doctor she learned that it was, in fact, a goddamned miscarriage. We're exploring having it redone.

On the flip side, I asked for a vasectomy and my PCP pretty much shrugged and said "Sure, whatevs".

Day-Trader15184 · 2022-06-24T17:14:18+00:00

Not sexist at all......Actually, it's quite logical.........The surgeon's simply trying not to get blamed later........

KriticalErrorArt · 2022-06-24T20:26:28+00:00

Sexism? Lol. Nah.
It's almost as if doctor's just want you to be 10000% sure before you go through with a medical procedure and as people age they tend to change their minds and "reversing" isn't always straight forward :')

ZenofZer0 · 2022-06-24T23:16:43+00:00

Can confirm. Tried to get vasectomy at 21-22 and the doc laughed at and told to come back in 10 years or after at least 2 kids.

2022-06-25T10:54:31+00:00

I say let her get them tied as it's less likely for her to pass on her feminist views to kids that will listen to her

electriccflower · 2022-06-24T09:15:37+00:00

It’s sexist because the doctor said she might meet “Mr Right” and change her mind.

Her being discriminated doesn’t take away anything from a man being discriminated in a similar situation regarding a vasectomy…

mordenkainen · 2022-06-24T14:50:30+00:00

Just say you are trans and get chemically sterilized at any age! /s

oflbtbs · 2022-06-24T07:08:42+00:00

IUD is less expensive, reversible and just as effective with lower complication rates. Its because tubal ligation is irreversible that its desired by some women as they suffer from anxiety that they will change their minds and have children. The uncertainty gnaws at their peace of mind. At least thats what Ive heard, but this fear of the unknown might be better addressed in therapy as opposed to indulging it with unnecessary surgeries.

Laarye · 2022-06-24T14:38:40+00:00

The new generation has no work ethic. They just want their DARWIN AWARD without trying to earn it.

RubMobile2126 · 2022-06-24T12:17:01+00:00

This is actually discrimination against cis gender people. When a trans person does a full transition, they would not be able to have children in the future. This however does not affect a doctor's decision to work on their reproductive organs.

proteios1 · 2022-06-24T16:52:24+00:00

really? Yet, any child declaring they are transexual can get puberty blockers and surgery? This is inconsistent, outdated or made-up.

Extra-Strike2276 · 2022-06-24T23:22:15+00:00

I commented on a post about this a while back and got down voted to oblivion for simply saying I was denied a vasectomy without having my wife present and being 25 yet. They did something similar to my wife a few years later as well. It's not a sex thing as much as its a doctor's prejudice. There's some truth to thier belief that a lot change their mind later and might not fully understand their choice at that age. I still think the doctors shouldn't be able to decide something that can have such an impact on someone life though. Making sure they fully understand, and maybe give a few weeks of time to consider it fully but otherwise let it happen.

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