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Why 60 years of feminism has not made women any happier

Heavy_Grand2526

October 30, 2022
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https://nypost.com/2022/10/29/why-60-years-of-feminism-has-not-made-women-any-happier/
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Title Why 60 years of feminism has not made women any happier
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Heavy_Grand2526

Upvotes 217
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Date October 30, 2022 11:36 PM UTC
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[–]63daddy 68 points69 points70 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

There’s a reason the Ford Foundation financially supported feminism: to get more women in the workforce, depressing wages. Getting women to believe working more will make them happier is one of the biggest scams going. Most people dream of the day they can quit working. Most people would work less if they could afford to.

It’s should come as no surprise working more hadn’t made women happier.

[–]PoolPartyAtMyHouse 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Keep men and women separate suddenly you sell twice as many cars, twice as many houses, twice as many fridges, washers, home repairs, insurance policies etc. It's not ironic feminism was used to replace the hate against capitalism in our culture.

It's not ironic women have been pushed into thinking they are strong for paying their own bills and rent. Here is Sue Bower literally saying it's pushed propaganda and intentional.. she was one of the main writers for Cosmo, you know, the magazine telling women to treat men like shit and giving the most absurd advice on men, telling women they are so powerful and all that because they can buy shit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfQwx5cn6Ug&ab_channel=RuthInstitute

If someone is a feminist, I can't imagine they can see this and not have a billion questions and concerns, and not be angry they have been just feed pure bull shit to basically buy shit. It's quit literally straight form the source.

[–]63daddy 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Hadn’t thought about the mire separate purchases aspect. Good point.

[–]PoolPartyAtMyHouse 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Here is some info on how exactly why women's liberation was a corporate movement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCpjmvaIgNA&ab_channel=TheAntiFeminist

[–]Main-Tiger8593 -4 points-3 points-2 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

are feminist not advocating for wealth distribution ?

[–]delocalelectron -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, and your wife wants wealth distribution, too.

She, at least, might give something in return.

[+]Marty-the-monkey -8 points-7 points-6 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If that's the case, then the issue is that capitalism hasn't made women (or men happier), not that feminism hasn't.

[–]C-Dub178 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Everything that goes wrong is capitalism

[–]Marty-the-monkey -5 points-4 points-3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It depends on how pedantic one wants to be in what is ascribed to capitalism...

For some it seems the concept of commerce is only allowed within capitalism, so it really depends on what you define as capitalism before one can say so.

[–]Early-Department-234 54 points55 points56 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Feminist policy has created a growing underclass of homeless and drug addicted men in Toronto.

[–]ImpossibleUsual1443 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thats not a conversation feminist are ready for ! They love to blame everyone for their problems , but accountability is inexistent

[–]Early-Department-234 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's all by design. The elites are laughing all the way to the bank and the bedrooms to use these useful idiots as their harem and work serfs for their corporate profits.

[–]MGTOW_Theory 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What policy's? Please tell more.

[–]veedub447 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminism essentially doubled the labor market and lowered wages. It takes two working parents to afford a decent home and raise a family now. Working class jobs, like my grandfather had, (telephone line repair man) can no longer a support a family. Big business got cheap labor. The government supported feminism as well.. it doubled the number of tax payers.

[+]Ok_Razzmatazz_1751 -7 points-6 points-5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I gotta ask how feminist who are working made another person swallow that pill or smoke dat meth 🤔 No self control or responsibility. That's what I call drug addicts.

[–]SubmissivePickmegirl 15 points16 points17 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Because the only things someone diagnosed with feminism cancer can feel can appear as:

  • Anger/Extreme rage

  • Bitterness

  • Fear (which is beneath anger in most cases)

  • Man hate (if the cancer is in advanced stage)

  • Fear of men (alternative to man hate)

  • Toxic pride

  • Distrust

  • Hate against antifeminist normal women

  • Some during brainwashed, surrender in their illusion that they are "less than men" and patriarchy boogeyman and accept their "fate of desperation"

When I was a teen I had early stage cancer feminism. I didn't hate men. I was aware that men can be abused. But I had bitter days and living in fear and I could feel slight pain/tension in some of my organs. F-virus is an illness. F-poison is a prison. Not liberation.

And I dread having a career. I am uni student and I regret it. I was pressured. I will find some job but it will be from home. Also the idea of being a leader of something terrifies me. Yes, feminism brought harm, so it can kiss my ass.

I appreciate and I am grateful for people having basic human rights allowing them to live simply, but f-virus made women overpriviledged mad and depressed narcissists. And oppressed men and shame them for simply being men.

Unspeakable evil.

[–]ImpossibleUsual1443 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

🙏👏👏👏

[–]WingsofSky 27 points28 points29 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Some women are never happy.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

an interesting article but i don't think it belong here. maybe on another sub but not here. this is a mensrights sub. it's literally in the name. we are talking about men's issues and should keep it that way. some people think that's all what we do. talk about women. we shouldn't prove them right. we shouldn't be like feminist subs that all they do is to talk about men. just my piece of advice.

[–]BalloonPilotDude 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I’ll never understand why feminists and some conservatives believe that us men are completely ok looking into our future seeing that most of what awaits us is a lifetime of work.

That’s not what I want. I want to retire. I want to spend time with my children. But, as the larger breadwinner, I have to keep making money.

Inflation and my (poorly chosen?) career ensure it’s unlikely I will ever be able to retire with enough time to enjoy life for any significant length of time. Do I enjoy my job and do I derive satisfaction out of it? Yes, certainly. But it’s not in the running for ‘most important things in life’.

So if I had married a woman willing to work and have me to stay home I would have jumped on that offer. And if some neo-marxist academic ‘savior’ type ever came to my door telling me I need what my wife has and that I was ‘oppressed’ I would have punched them in the mouth.

Ladies; the grass may look greener but it’s artificial turf unable to grow anything. You had a good deal but too many of you listened to the charlatans. I suppose their book sales cushioned their landings but they left you with an empty purse.

[–]Magical-Hummus 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Teach people to poison themselves slowly and they will not be happy once they've become incapacitated.

Ever wondered why not a single open feminist is nothing else than bitter and mad? Because the whole movement/ideology is based on uncontrolled anger and hatred. If all feminists would start to realise and believe women have fair rights in the same countries they live in, then the feminism would be dead the second after.

[–]brymjack 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Huh.. imagine that.

[–]TracyMorganFreeman 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because feminism isn't for women. It's for feminists. It carves out special departments and sears in academia, the media, and bureaucracies.

[–]lilimegpep 17 points18 points19 points 3 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

If feminism promised personal satisfaction, it doesn’t seem to be delivering it.

Feminism didn't promise that though. Feminism only allowed women to be on a level playing field with men, able to have a job, career, able to vote, able to decide how to live their own life. After that it's up to each individual to find their own happiness in life right?

[–]narfywoogles 26 points27 points28 points 3 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

After that it's up to each individual to find their own happiness in life right?

They've become the man they want to marry instead of the woman men want to marry and are left holding the bag. And they've never been more miserable.

[–]NeoVidia 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its the most extreme case of “The grass always looks greener on the other side”.

In theory having the financial freedom to do what you want, taking control of your life is awesome. In practice, its a double edged sword as your increasingly expensive habits now lock you into a routine you can’t escape. If you’re lucky, you are so financially independent that you do actually increase your quality of life. Or chose something you do indeed truly love.

Most people aren’t that lucky. I do think having the option to is fair, but this view that men have it better has always been a cruel joke. They got what they wished for, equality, they just didn’t realize men were miserable.

[–]shit-zen-giggles 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

For those not recognizing it:

We are becoming the men we wanted to marry

is a quote from 2nd wave feminist Gloria Steinem

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/83164-we-are-becoming-the-men-we-wanted-to-marry

[–]hellraisinhardass 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is extremely well put and exactly describes one of my wife's ex-friends. She is college educated, owns a house, has a blossoming career and absolutely resented my wife for two things:

1) having a stable relationship and

2) be a happy stay at home mother.

It was amazing the number of times she tried to drive a wedge between me and my wife. ( "He's forcing you to do this- you should refuse" "Uh no....it was my idea." )

And it absolutely gutted her that my wife liked being a mom? "Don't you want to do something useful?" LOL.

Hey creeping feminist, here's a tip for you: when you imply that a mother dedicating every waking second of her day and every ounce of her energy to her offspring "isn't useful"...you will learn the wrath of the Momma Bear. Like I said....ex-friend.

[+]lilimegpep -11 points-10 points-9 points 3 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

They've become the man they want to marry instead of the woman men want to marry and are left holding the bag

You're saying here that modern women are more like men than women, have I got that right? If that's what you mean then please explain how so?

And they've never been more miserable

Who exactly have never been more miserable? And compared to who? Please provide some evidence with your answer.

[–]narfywoogles 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

You're saying here that modern women are more like men than women, have I got that right? If that's what you mean then please explain how so?

I'm saying they build a career/status/wealth thinking that men find that attractive. It's like people who buy gifts for others that they would want instead of what the other person actually wants. Men don't really care about women's' careers. That's something women care about in men.

Who exactly have never been more miserable?

Women

Please provide some evidence with your answer.

https://slate.com/human-interest/2009/05/women-are-more-unhappy-than-ever.html

[–]bloodandglitter85 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

They build a career so that they can be normal, successful adults. It has nothing to do with attracting men. Where have you got the idea that women are building careers to impress men?

[–]narfywoogles 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

They build a career so that they can be normal, successful adults.

That's not unreasonable. But they then think that men are attracted to that. We're not.

Where have you got the idea that women are building careers to impress men?

Threads like this where women brag about their accomplishments as if men care: https://www.reveddit.com/v/AskMen/comments/y468rk/what_do_men_really_want/

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[–]narfywoogles 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You're attracted to women without jobs?

I love how you have to make this personal because you've nothing else. I accept your surrender.

[–]bloodandglitter85 -5 points-4 points-3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What?!? I was making a joke. You are really childish.

[–]lilimegpep -4 points-3 points-2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm saying they build a career/status/wealth thinking that men find that attractive

Or they build a career/status/wealth as a way to feel a sense of achievement, why exactly do you think everything women do is designed to attract men?

Men don't really care about women's' careers

I think most women with careers don't really give a fuck what men think of it.

https://slate.com/human-interest/2009/05/women-are-more-unhappy-than-ever.html

Now show me the men's one, how happy are men compared to 35 years ago?

[–]narfywoogles 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Or they build a career/status/wealth as a way to feel a sense of achievement, why exactly do you think everything women do is designed to attract men?

Because they complain when they do it and it doesn't work.

I think most women with careers don't really give a fuck what men think of it.

They think that until they want to settle down and realize it's 15 years too late and what they build doesn't attract men.

Now show me the men's one, how happy are men compared to 35 years ago?

He made a point with a source! Quick, change the subject!

[–]djb1983CanBoy 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most women with careers wont “settle” for less successful men, so they end up unhappy and alone.

Men never had that issue.

[–]_BlueShark87 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean a humans primary goal is to reproduce. Soooo.

[–]shit-zen-giggles -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Gloria Steinem said that, see https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/83164-we-are-becoming-the-men-we-wanted-to-marry

[–]redditdawtcom 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, male suicide is currently much higher than female suiicde, so they've failed at that.

Also is there an astorturf in progress? How did you manage 15 upvotes for a post that praises feminism as something that has made men and women equal?

[–]C-Dub178 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women☕️

[–]Educational_Bet_6606 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Cuz it brainwashed them.

[–]anoncitizen4 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The goal was never to make women happy, it was to make men equally miserable.

[–]Ok_Razzmatazz_1751 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I have no idea if women are happier now or not. I know my grandmother worked in accounting.

We all worked to help with finances when married . Upper Middle class. Staying home for what time I did to raise childern 20 some years ago is a blurr.
Personally was very happy when I achieved my goals. Family , career , and now childern raised , still decently young. Can enjoy my life without toddlers 🤣🤣.

Realistically anybody can have anything they want it's just moderation and goals with or without feminism all this is possible for a woman

[–]delocalelectron 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, overwriting a biological imperative is bound to make us happier, isn't it?

This is like saying being an incel hasn't made men happier.

[–]BB_the_Dweeb 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men and women are not naturally equal, they are naturally complimentary.
Fighting nature is unnatural and won't lead to increased happiness.

[–]KazukiYahashi 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They also have a history of heavily appropriating slavery.

[–]_BlueShark87 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The reason for this is that they are just finding out how hard it is to work like this but don’t want to credit men for doing it for centuries. Besides these women just want to have their cake and eat it too. You can’t decide to have a full time job and have time to raise a family. That’s just not how time management works.

[–]Proof-Examination574 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We should just call it female supremacy instead of feminism at this point. It just so happens that societies run by women suck. The good news for men is we can leave and go to countries run by men whereas women will have to wallow in their own creation drinking boxed wine and taking antidepressants until they die and their cats eat them.

[–]Wqtr100 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The paradox of declining female happiness: https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w14969/w14969.pdf

The female happiness paradox: https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w29893/w29893.pdf

[–]hshsgdve -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I say we let them be strong independent women for a little longer.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"They are sexually liberated, but that often means they are going from one relationship to another without any sense of financial security or emotional stability."

Deep down, they still believe financial security requires having a stable relationship with a man.

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[–]Dramatic-Essay-7872 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

have no doubt that first and second wave feminism benefitted women "and men aswell" but today it is another story for modern biased hypersensitive feminism SADLY...

[–]Thick_Experience_203 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It definitely has not helped men at all or ever

[–]Dramatic-Essay-7872 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

care to explain?

why was feminism started in your opinion?

[–]Thick_Experience_203 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It did nothing to help men…

[–]EvidencePlz 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Quote the whole paragraph:

Only a little more than half (58.6%) of respondents said yes. What’s interesting, though, is the people who said yes also tend to be among the least happy and fulfilled. In survey after survey, it turns out that people who espouse a secular worldview, people who identify as liberals, and people who never attend religious services report the lowest levels of personal satisfaction, but they also report the highest levels of support for feminist ideals. Indeed, as feminism’s influence has grown over the past half century, women have become less happy.

https://nypost.com/2022/10/29/why-60-years-of-feminism-has-not-made-women-any-happier/?utm_source=reddit.com#:~:text=Only%20a%20little,become%20less%20happy.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Perhaps I can support feminism now

[–]Marty-the-monkey -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But how can you attribute the dip in current happiness to the mere agreement of feminism?

I see plenty of issues pertaining multifarious groups and demographics and how unhappy they are, which few of them having anything to do with feminism. So affiliation with feminism can't be seen as a gange of happiness.

To me attempting to make a causation between feminism and happiness is an attempt to point at a 'quick fix' scapegoat to deflect attention from a much larger factor of the current situation.

We, at the moment, have extreme labor and financial issues with a predatory work marked which gouges any opportunity for happiness for anyone part if it.

[–]Deep-Mountain-829 -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

No, it is not a "men's rights" privilege to start a "no ugly women allowed" club, which is exactly what MRAs do to justify porn addiction. We are "going our own way" too, trying to navigate around this type of abuse. Consider Andrew Tate. HIS idea of a booming economy would definitely exclude "unattractive women." Once women recognize SEXUAL DISCRIMINATION is identical to racial discrimination we can begin to heal. MRAs are asserting rights of exclusion that they do not have.

[–]brymjack 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Lol wut? So much assumption and feelings here. As usual from folks like you who rage on this sub and barely stay on topic. No data, sweeping generalizations and a whole lot of vitriol.

Also, any human or group can exclude pretty much anything but food/water and shelter on a personal basis.

If you want to cry about porn, go talk to the women who run the industry, because they run the industry.

[–]Deep-Mountain-829 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

No, it's what I said. The reason for "feminism" is because women you consider "ugly" or not attractive are subversively and quietly deprived of their equal economic rights, similar to how blacks were excluded from the economy. Too many boys clubs, too many "no gurlz allowed clubs". I'm the woman here. I know what woman's experience is. You, as a man, most assuredly do not and have no business speaking on women's experience now do you? But you pretend to speak on the issue in the typical manner that you have a voice but women, blacks, minorities, etc. do not have a voice or a representative in a white man's form of "government". "Sexual discrimination" needs to be the key phrase here. You might not like it but "ugly, non pornographic women" need to buy groceries too. And we should be allowed to go grocery shopping without porn magazines in our faces at the check out, but if MRAs had their way there would certainly be porn mags at the grocery store check out line. "Metaphorically speaking."

[–]brymjack 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Consider for a moment that you are to blame for your own problems and not white men. Also, you put so many words in my mouth and conflate topics that it's a waste of time to respond to your sweeping generalizations. Frankly, you seem to be the paradigm of an unhinged fem nazi. Have a better day.

[+]SadSorrySackOShip -35 points-34 points-33 points 3 years ago (61 children) | Copy Link

60 yrs or feminism hasn't made women any happier because men never joined us in bringing down the state. So feminists left communism and moved to liberalism as a cope. Thank your grandaddies for splitting the ppls revolution. Instead of killing the leaders who sent them to Vietnam, they just came back n beat their wives n kids.

That's the fucking truth and you can cow from it all you want. Russia/China is about to squash the issue. You'll never break the men free from the forced labor camps aka prisons, you'll never kill the leaders who keep sending boys to fight profiteer's war. The east is going to come do it for you.

So point the finger at women all you want. Stay in the fantasyland the cia built for you. The world is moving on without you. The men of the u.s. come before you were failures and it looks perhaps self-described "MRAs" are all merely here to carry on that legacy.

[–]Angryasfk 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

What are you saying? That feminism was always a communist plot?

[–]IceCorrect 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It is. It was allways about class of bad men and vulnerable women. Thats why even today with women have more rights than men they still say how men are bad

[+]SadSorrySackOShip -11 points-10 points-9 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I'm saying that women are unhappy 60 years later because feminism failed in the United States. Just as "black" people are unhappy 159 years after the Emancipation Proclamation; all that's happened since then is a continued expansion of forced labor camps that have now absorbed "white" males. The efforts for liberation FAILED. And they failed because they were liquidated by "white" males who were convinced by the state to refuse to unify with women and African Americans. The only measure of success is the subversion of state power and establishment of a Soviet Democracy. Capitalism continues to put MEN through the meat-grinder, and you guys are stunningly still falling for the same ratty page from the political science playbook. My point is, we all know it's been a failed experiment. We know. The U.S. is collapsing. It doesn't really matter what you and I think or feel about it. When the leaders responsible for the Vietnam draft were not held to account, this nation's fate was sealed. All that energy which could have wrought true, lasting change was instead released into the home. The feminists lost. Having to flee their homes and become single parents consequent to War PTSD was not something any feminist considered a god damned success. Having fathers brothers and sons locked up in labor camps, overdosing from heroin and zombified by the crack the CIA flooded the streets with, was not something feminists consider a god damn success. 5 million incarcerated and 2 million under corrective supervision, making us not only the most caged population on Earth but in all of human history is not a success. That's a CAPITALIST'S idea of success. Literally, they have meetings to discuss what a success this is and how to grow it. And yet you airheads think its feminists sitting around giant boardroom tables talking about how to fill the empty cells. Your impotence and utter stupidity really make me sick.

[–][deleted] 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]SadSorrySackOShip -5 points-4 points-3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Imagine if a bunch of women came in here and told you guys to calm down, you'd pause your circlejerk just long enough to piss your pants.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Look at this guys, this triggered feminists are okay to comment while MGTOWs and MRAs are getting banned by this sub.

[–]SadSorrySackOShip -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Aw you want me censored? :,) What, you can't think of a substantive response

Edit: I guess I'm banned; I'm not allowed to answer your most recent comment. I'm banned from every neofeminist sub. Half of them have male mods.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You people's Feminist subs always ban MGTOW and MRAs. And I dont care about you people's feelings so yeah. I want to ban all of your kind

[–]SadSorrySackOShip 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol those subs are run by dudes. I'm banned from them too. So stfuuuu hahaha

[–]_BlueShark87 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don’t actually want you banned unless you annoy me too much. It’s good to hear all types of opinions. Contrary to fem subs cough cough ask feminists cough cough. They just don’t allow other viewpoints to comment.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

She says all this until she gets drafted for war and then says “uhm, well uh, well, so you see, uhhhhhh…”

[–]SadSorrySackOShip -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

I don't follow. Do you really think anything you or I say or do can prevent the global war that the U.S. has initiated? I will never fight for the U.S. government; I'd happily die before fighting for the corporate state.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Then don’t expect men to line up infront of you and protect, we can just shove you in the frontline to die for all we care.

[–]SadSorrySackOShip -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

I don't expect men of the U.S. to protect me from shit. Never have so why would I start now? Lmao. Do you not understand the U.S. government is the enemy of the feminist? Any man or woman working for or in suppprt of the U.S. gov can shove a shotgun up their ass and pull!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

None of my business. Get t f out of here

[–]SadSorrySackOShip 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Aw you'll be ok

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

F you. Go back to your sub.

[–]SadSorrySackOShip 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

You can't think up a substantive response to anything I said?

Edit response to MGTOW_theory below: Lol I tried responding but sub won't let the comment post.

The blocked comment>>>

That's exactly my point.  If the vets had come home and took to the offices of the leaders who sent them to war, instead of beating their fucking wives and kids, taking to drugs and booze, women of the feminist movement wouldn't have been compelled to capitulate to liberalism

Saying "feminists" need the state isn't the flex you think it is. 

Do you think its some sort of crowning achievement that your sex is so impotent that women and children prefer the care supplied to them by the state over what they'd get from you?

I wouldn't be fucking bragging about that if I were you.  Like I said, your grandaddies had a shot to give you a future w a life worth living and they blew it.  Blame the women all you want. 

The feminist movement of the 60s was Communist.  The Black Panthers were Communist.  That means they wanted to subvert and destroy the state.  You know whose help they needed to succeed? Adult "white" males.  And the "white" males overwhelmingly did not show up.  Even after going to Vietnam and being compelled under duress to commit atrocities (which was cowardly enough as it were), they STILL didn't cultivate any violence toward the leaders who had sent them there.  Women and "blacks" had no choice but to capitulate to liberalism as an adaptation after that.  If you can't beat them, join them.  SO NOW YOU GOT LADYCOPS, and 5,000,000 incarcerated, and Russia about to splatter you! 

And this all coulda been avoided. 

 Sexism and racism kept "white" men from uniting with the rest of people to establish a true Democracy.  You don't have to like it, you don't have to look at it, but what is IS.  It's too late now for reconciliation.  The U.S. government is a terror cell that has wrought exponentially more severe and unforgivable destruction across the globe in the time since then. What the people here suffer - what YOU suffer - is merely a microcosm of a much larger machine of brutality.  We needed men - the "white" men - to help us dismantle this machine before it grew so big, and they didn't. They, your forefathers, took a gamble on your behalf - simping for the Capitalist state in exchange for feewings of supewiowity - and they mf lost.  

Now we - you n I - are footing the debt.  And guys your age of the anti-feminist-bent are just falling for the same simpleass tricks the state used in the 60s.  And the girls your age don't know the history either. They're totally liberalized, politically spayed and ineffectual.

[–]MGTOW_Theory 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

State is the biggest friend and weapon of feminists. Without it they can't do anything.

Can't even imagine how you got this idea, probably because you are not sex Nazi enough.

But yeah, feminist love state they need it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I dont have to, since it's none of my business. Go back to your playground

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

enemy of the feminist

Bro you do understand that in a court of law all the woman has to say is “rape” case closed

[–]SadSorrySackOShip -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bro don't you understand "woman" and "feminist" are not synonymous

[–]IceCorrect 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Its not CIA, but KGB who set this up. But belive in "truths" you hear on your feminist studies.

[–]SadSorrySackOShip 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

So you're saying MRAs are influenced by the KGB? LOL.

[–]IceCorrect 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Ouch right, its men's fault all the time.

[–]SadSorrySackOShip 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Dude, no. And your comments are making no sense. You just said anti-feminism is seeded by the KGB. You might wanna mull that over.

[–]IceCorrect 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Feminism is the kgb.

[–]SadSorrySackOShip 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Im telling you real feminists are communists, Liberalism and MRA is full of CIA shilling. You're trying to argue w me and yet you're not assuming an opposing stance so it's confusing.

[–]IceCorrect 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I thought you said that feminist are cia. Some lost in translation

[–]mrmilner101 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Bruh man this the two most oppressive countries in the world we do better them most western countries where yiu have more freedom. In Russia it was decriminalised to beat you wife. If you think the West is worst for beating their wives you haven't seen Russia. And in China you step out of line you off to jail. Say something the government doesn't agree with jail. Social credit score is also morally fucked up. And oh yea China get Concentration camps too. Neither Russia and China will solve any problems.

[–]SadSorrySackOShip -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Jfc lemme guess you've never been to either place

[–]mrmilner101 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Neither have you by the sounds of things. One doesn't need to go to place to understand what's it like. My fiancee black unfortunately we have to do reseach about places before going because you know alot of places are still really racist like alot of Asian countries. Russia nor China are not good place to live or good government. And btw China and Russia aren't communist they hyper capitalistic and dictatorship. You clearly have no idea how the world works and are living in a fantasy. Also you wanna know men did infsct help women with feminines and there where alot of men fighting for the rights of women. You can see that in Iran rn happen alot of men are fighting and getting killed and arrested so women can do what ever they want.

[–]_BlueShark87 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Asian countries cough cough India cough cough. I’m really coming down with a cold right now.

[–]mrmilner101 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What's India got to do with anything we saying?

[–]_BlueShark87 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

India is pretty racist and misandrist. Can’t even be proud of that country unfortunately.

[–]Magical-Hummus 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

I don't really like this "us" and "we" mentality but "we" did. Right now, women in almost if not all Western countries have the same job opportunities. The ultimate proof I always point out us that they are legally allowed to take up jobs that even enforce the law, like a policewoman, or even way higher, a judge. Women have many advantages like having safety shelters, mother-child fascilities, divorce courts that prefer them, being allowed to dodge the draft etc. And no, feminism would have not gotten far if the fathers, brothers, sons, friends and any other male acqauintance of women did not fight for them to have fairer rights.

Just look at Iran right now. It is being potrayed as "Women fighting for women" when on videos it is damn clear it is "us" the men who go to the front line. Instead of "The people of Iran fighting in the name of women" (and more), it has been potrayed to ultimately make women appear as the "strong and caring". But because it does not support the ideals of feminism, you had to narrow it down to potray men as never caring or never participating.

Because of something like that, you start to grow slowly but surely a hatred towards men. No matter how good you have it, no matter how many advantages and fair rights you have in your country, you still end up poisonely mad. That is the true essence of feminism and that is why women who follow it end up unhappy. It is not there to help you, it is there to use poison and use you.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Long story short, they don't listen. It is waste of time to even try convincing those kinds of people. How can you convert a Muslim to Buddism? There is no way. It is not based on science. It is based on dogma and self righteousness.

[–]Magical-Hummus 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I am Muslim, coindentally. And the way I generally approach situations like that is just to calmy talk about it. Given it is better if both sides do that. That being said, it is not about convincing somebody in one go or convincing in general. It is just to question an idea give them a different viewpoint. No matter it is about religion or general ideologies. It is enough when you just introduce certain viewpoints in their head, so to speak.

[–]SadSorrySackOShip -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I don't care what you like.

I'm saying that women are unhappy 60 years later because feminism failed in the United States. Just as "black" people are unhappy 159 years after the Emancipation Proclamation; all that's happened since then is a continued expansion of forced labor camps that have now absorbed "white" males. The efforts for liberation FAILED. And they failed because they were liquidated by "white" males who were convinced by the state to refuse to unify with women and African Americans. The only measure of success is the subversion of state power and establishment of a Soviet Democracy. Capitalism continues to put MEN through the meat-grinder, and you guys are stunningly still falling for the same ratty page from the political science playbook. My point is, we all know it's been a failed experiment. We know. The U.S. is collapsing. It doesn't really matter what you and I think or feel about it. When the leaders responsible for the Vietnam draft were not held to account, this nation's fate was sealed. All that energy which could have wrought true, lasting change was instead released into the home. The feminists lost. Having to flee their homes and become single parents consequent to War PTSD was not something any feminist considered a god damned success. Having fathers brothers and sons locked up in labor camps, overdosing from heroin and zombified by the crack the CIA flooded the streets with, was not something feminists consider a god damn success. 5 million incarcerated and 2 million under corrective supervision, making us not only the most caged population on Earth but in all of human history is not a success. That's a CAPITALIST'S idea of success. Literally, they have meetings to discuss what a success this is and how to grow it. And yet you airheads think its feminists sitting around giant boardroom tables talking about how to fill the empty cells. Your impotence and utter stupidity really make me sick.

"wOmEn CaN bE cOpS nAo" is not a success. That you think so proves you really have no idea what feminism is about and you know nothing beyond what the corporate state has spoonfed you.

[–]Magical-Hummus 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I am not even from the USA. And I think you really mix up many other poltical issues with this one. See, we are simply here talking about feminism, women's rights and happiness of women as a whole. Not about economic systems. Somewhere along the lines you mentioned about how drafters are needed to be held accountable and how men and families suffered with the draft (up until now), this is where I agree somewhere. But it is really as far as it goes with your arguments that has anything to do with the topic we have now, the rest I really have to call a mix mash of rage.

Since you mentioned single mothers, that is a huge issue which thanks to unfair divorce courts that favour mothers over fathers instead of assuring equal custody (if both parents are mentally healthy). That is probably one of the biggest signs of how femnism has contributed to the unhappiness of women. And a substantial amount of those courts are even lead by male judges who enforce those anti-male and anti-equality biases. The epidemic of single-mothers and fatherless children is a result of demonizing men for decades which feminism still does to this day.

And lasty, yes, ever since the dawn of time, the idea of feminism basically started with allowing and encouraging women to work "not at home". And the highest appraisal of respect, is when you trust women enough to even enforce the law as a job. To claim that feminism does not boast about "equal job opportunities" and to say that is not a huge part or a part at all of it, is just conveniently untrue. I understand your anger and hatred somewhere, I would feel the same if I would be constantly made to believe that a woman cannot be ever happy. Just like feminism teaches it and how the state encourages that idea in schools nowadays.

[–]SadSorrySackOShip 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm from the U.S. so I'm speaking on feminism in the U.S. Meanwhile the U.S. exports its culture. Feminism didn't convince me to be unhappy; 7 million people at any given time in forced labor camps and under state surveillance convinced me to be unhappy. I'm not sure why such a simple concept is so foreign to you. The state - in my nation - prefers single mothers not out of benevolence toward women, but because it needs men to be incarcerated to supply cheap labor for - among other things - building military equipment, and it needs a steady supply of unprotected offspring with which to replace those labor forces as they die from violence, bodily fatigue, workplace injury, and disease. Women are broodmares and men are mules, existent to supply the Capitalist - male or female - with military protections and a lavish lifestyle.

Like I said, Feminism used to be Communist. Since Feminism couldn't rally support of the general population, particularly of men, they backslid - disgustingly - to Liberalism. Liberalism built the U.S. military/prison-industrial-complex and allows for continued imperialism. But now China and Russia are about to give the U.S. the smackdown.

If you're not from the U.S. then I'm no longer surprised by your lack of comprehension. You can't possibly be intimately acquainted with how concepts of alleged "white supremecy" and "male supremecy", bolstered by the ethos of Calvinism, lead to the continued popularity of Liberalism and ultimately to the expansion of U.S. Interventionism, and this nation's present collapse, unless you read a lot of literature on U.S. history, and most people even from here do not do so. The myths of male supremecy and "white" supremency did exist, and they were popular myths, as evidenced by being codified previously into laws.

Think of it like this...Men presided over everything on this continent for several hundred years, and in that time there existed an abundance of suffering. It is still men presiding over things, as they hold the majority of public offices. They are the most judges, cops, lawyers, congressmen and senators, business-owners, wealth-managers, lobbyists, landowners, and presidents. If feminism had won, women would hold at least 50% of all such positions, LEADERSHIP positions which possess real power, and would have done so 60 years ago. However, only the most brutally stupid or otherwise cooperative women have ever been allowed elevation into such positions. Feminists do not run the U.S.A. If they did, this nation would be Communist. Your enemy is CAPITALISM, not Feminism. Capitalism is why our courts are shite, men are routinely murdered and put in cages and sent to profiteer wars, children run amok, drugs are prolific, wages are low, workplace injuries and deaths are not mitigated when they could be, infant and maternal mortalities are high, colleges are liberal, media ownership is consolidated, and schools are propaganda machines.

Liberalism is the enemy of Communism. Thus neofeminists are my enemy. They are not true to the core Feminist cause. Neofeminists and the majority of MRAs are on the same exact wavelength - ineffectual and ignorant to political science and to war science. Truly just running on hamster wheels.

Capitalists wanted women to work "not at home". Women wanted to get out of the home to evade oppression within the home. A mere 50 years ago my Nana was disallowed by her husband from READING BOOKS. Lol. She had to read in secrecy. Capitalists capitalized on this domestic discord. They could pay women less.

Every step of the way Liberalism tails behind the will of the people. People are only given what they want with strings attached and if it's profitable to the Capitalist. Every effort for liberation is liquidated and monetized. Feminism is no exception. Nor are the MRAs.

[–]Magical-Hummus 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

As I said, you do have some good points here and there but all the things you describe are frankly not exclusive to one economy form. Is capitalism pefect? Definitely not? Does prefer the rich elitist too much? Yes. But different to communism, we do not have millions of people dying inside of our own country. Since humans live they used men as disposable for war and hard labour, that is, as I said before, not about economy forms, just ancient stigmas. Capitalism more or less exploits people, yes. But again, that is not exclusive to it.

And yes while most authortarian jobs and corporations happen to be run by man, the point of fairness is not that it is a forced 50% amongst both. That would be just create something identical on 2 sides. But identical does not mean equality/fairness. The point about having rights is to simply have them. Every woman is allowed to be all that and that is great. The issue is when people act they don't have the rights for it. The issue, so to speak, is that women do not want to do these types of jobs. Same as jobs such as garbage disposer and sewage cleaner for example. Ask most women and most want to do an office job and that's it. Which there is no shame in, except when people act like it is.

I don't know what you expect from feminism. But the very thing that exploits women the most, the very thing that never allowed a woman to be happy, is feminism. If a woman is happy, a feminist would say "I am so glad you are happy, if only women in X-location would not suffer too, it would be great but I am glad you are happy " and then immdiately her comment is followed by similar replies. Whenever a woman has no current complaint in her relationship with a man, a feminist would ask "Are you sure he is not manipulating you?". Trying to unstable her relationship. It is this constant indoctrinated worry and anger that causes a woman to suffer. And because of that, it is also easy to use them. You can use the new generation/s of angry women to, let's say, support your book and give you money. Or you could use them to go on rallies or protests that fit your narrative. Feminism or "Neofeminism", it matters not as both would still have leaders amongst them that exploit the average lackey, basically the same worry you have about capitalistic state would still apply to a political movement that rely on angry women.

(MRA could go into that direction, frankly. It is one of my worries, but at the moment we are not there yet )

[–]SadSorrySackOShip 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Happy cake day. I had wrote an answer to this in detail but it's probably a wasted effort so I'll concede we'll just have to agree to disagree. I'm a Communist, a gun enthusiast, a laborer and a feminist and believe only in democratic rule by the people and for the people by way of tactical training, prison abolition and the dissolution of the United States government. The u.s. has the largest network of forced labor camps on Earth as well as in human history, has among the top three highest infant&maternal mortality rates among all developed nations, and starts wars sending youth to slaughter for profit, including a nuclear war they are attempting to start right now via NATO.

Neofeminism, liberalism and neoliberalism are wastes of energy and so is talking to the people who live in those camps.

[–]Magical-Hummus 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Then I might as well ask, would you recommend countries in Europe that follow a social democratic system and are often considered to be "the happiest countries" to become communistic? Because those countries would be a totally different if so it ever happens.

And how come every country that practiced and practices communism had/has a weak economy and a lack of human rights? Worth noting, this includes less men and women rights as well. So far it has been tried over and over again and just never did achieve the "advertised" goal.

[–]Dramatic-Essay-7872 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

if we smash patriarchy, remove capitalism and get rid of toxic masculinity are we then truly equal?

do competence hierarchies just vanish then and women stop to become pregnant which is a loss of working hours and experience?

how do you think should our economy work to create a qualitative good outcome at a good price for everybody?

if we teach boys and girls gender is a social construct how does it look like in daily life and specially at schools if certain behaviors are punished and others encouraged AND what about competition to become the best of something?

[–]SadSorrySackOShip 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't recall saying anything about "competence hierarchies", "[smashing] the patriarchy", "toxic masculinity", "gender is a social construct", or many of the other things you're attributing to my comment. So you might wish to read it again.

I also explicitly addressed that "We" are not going to do anything. China and Russia are getting things done. Right now the U.S. is a toddler sitting in its own shitty diaper.

[–]_BlueShark87 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Gender is not a completely social construct. There are innate biological differences between us that cannot be denied.

[–]Dramatic-Essay-7872 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

is that all you have to contribute?

i asked if we assume it is how do we follow that up in practice...

[–]SadSorrySackOShip 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I mean, that wasn't me who commented, but I agree with that commenter lolol.

[–]_BlueShark87 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh shit I did something wrong

[–]_BlueShark87 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was on the bus and basically at school so I ended my comment. But it’s not a social construct and shouldn’t be seen as one. If gender was a social construct then it doesn’t matter what gender you are. It’s like your pronouns, not something that comes up very often. The same behaviors would be tolerated for all genders, even tanks, and… integrated changing rooms? I guess since there’s no differences, no point in 2 changing rooms. Would children be produced asexually like cloning?

[–]bfte2 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminism isn't about USA, doofus. It might have started in the USA, but has spread globally.

[–]Proof-Examination574 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

If communism is so great why don't you just move to a communist country? I hear North Korea is a feminist heaven.

[–]SadSorrySackOShip -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

The state denied my family passport. We're held captive in the United States. In any case, I don't think North Korea grants entry to U.S. citizens.

But it's alright because the U.S. is in collapse so things will be changing dramatically in the course of the next 5 decades. The workers of the world will gain control of their means of production.

[–]Proof-Examination574 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Oh, well you can just go to Twin Oaks Community. It's a feminist commune in the US. You'll fit right in. https://www.twinoaks.org/

[–]SadSorrySackOShip 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

An isolated commune within a Capitalist nation is not Communism.

[–]Proof-Examination574 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Well, there's always China, Vietnam, Cuba, and Laos. Lots of options. I think you'd make an excellent addition to one of their collective agrarian plantations. I thought Laos was very nice when I visited Vientiane. Pretty good beer too. Plus it's a major hub for human sex trafficking so you could help empower less fortunate women.

[–]SadSorrySackOShip 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Why is running always the first course of action to come to the minds of liberal men? The cowardice implied aside, I already mentioned my family is held captive within U.S. borders. If I wanted to flee rather than carry out political organizing, I would be relegated to crossing into Canada or Mexico.

[–]Proof-Examination574 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If you're held captive then why are you able to get internet and post it online? I'm not saying to flee, I'm saying to try before you buy. You can try out pure feminist communism for yourself and if you like it be a part of it and grow that community. They have a really hard time attracting and keeping people so I bet you would be welcomed into their collective. That's a freedom you enjoy being in the US as a "captive".

[–]SadSorrySackOShip 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Captive as in the government will not allow my family to leave the borders of the U.S.

And I am an enemy of neofeminists and liberals. Besides that, joining a fucking commune doesn't overthrow the government and implement soviet democracy, nor does it prevent you and your family from getting nuked by Russia. This is precisely why liberals and neofeminists are enemies of communists existant on the north american continent. I'm hoping Russia will come perform prison abolition instead of nuking us, but liberals are pushing on Russia's borders like suicidal maniacs ..or like retardes, infants with no sense of self-preservation (not sure which).

Let me put it this way; if there's going to be some sort of population control like the conservatives are always spouting about, that is gonna come in the form of disappearing the North American continent. If pushed, the eastern powers will unalive us. So idk why everyone here is so fn nonchalant. Lol.

Joining a commune isn't going to save my family from hypersonic missiles bro.

[–]Proof-Examination574 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Last time I checked Russia was a federalist republic captured by the mafia.

[–]B1G_Fan 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because women have found out that climbing the corporate ladder isn’t fun. Men strived to climb the corporate ladder because they had a family to provide for

[–]somethingneet 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because feminism is a failed ideology

[–]have_no_clue03 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

because men are still the same?

[–]AgeOfReasonEnds31120 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What happened to all the MRAs like myself who advocate for women being in the workforce?

[–]Deep-Mountain-829 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not "to blame" for not looking like a porn star, nor do I care to devote so much personal time to my appearance. I AM able to speak as a woman, you are NOT. Yes, we can "go out own way" just as MRAs can. It took me a long long time to realize why my ex was persecuting me, and it was because I don't look like a porn star and that is what he prefers. Well I can draw the line there. The creep may have many complaints about women, but under no circumstances does he have the right to deprive certain women to economic equality which is truly what he, Andrew Tate, "Roosh" and many other wannabe international play boys have attempted, including Scott Peterson.. All I have left to say is, you heard the truth from me first, not the other way around. Soon enough "feminists" will use the statement "sexual discrimination" because that is the bottom line fact. And I don't need you to dictate to me what kind of day to have. Right now my room mate is at court because a 37 year old man impregnated her 13 year old grand daughter...AS IF a 13 year old is capable of being a mother instead of a porn star. Get real man.

[–]tuxedoedsoup 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

the point of feminism was never to make women happier. it was just to give women a level playing field and more freedoms to do what they want.

also why are some people here implying that women should not have financial freedom? i thought this sub was for mens rights, not taking away womens rights…

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