Thoughts on passport bros marrying foreign women rather than western women

63daddy · 2023-02-11T16:39:31+00:00

I think so long as it’s not abusive, people should date and marry whomever they want. It’s their business.
I think it’s basic supply and demand at work, so this trend doesn’t surprise me at all. - the same with the growth of sugar relationships.

Standard-Broccoli107 · 2023-02-11T13:14:21+00:00

I think passport bros can be divided in two groups: those who travel because they want a better, healthier dating culture that makes it easier to get a connection and those who specifically target those living in so deep poverty that they cant refuse marriage. Group 1 I respect. They decided to go out on a limb for love and I hope they find it.

JohnWM1984 · 2023-02-12T01:26:07+00:00

It's a good idea. Although the problem is that if western men marry non western women if they bring them back to the western countries they live in they will most likely be brainwashed and corrupted and will end up becoming like most western women. The best thing for these men to do would be to immigrate to the non western countries that these women live in.

Low-Way-4841 · 2023-02-11T23:13:58+00:00

As I’m a “passport bro” A man from the Uk engaged to a Czech woman, I am all for a man finding love in countries where women aren’t entitled. It’s up to him. As long as he is genuine, which I believe a lot of them are.

What do modern Western European/American women have to offer? What do they bring to the table? A lot of them are trying to be ‘that girl’, ‘Stay at home GF’ or a ‘bad bitch’ through their 20’s and then start ranting about men on TikTok videos in their 30’s because their time is running out and guys don’t want them anymore. They’re the most entitled women I’ve ever met. They believe everything should be handed to them on a silver platter and that they should be paid for by men. Sorry but no.

Women in Eastern Europe however, They are raised with traditional values, family values and are taught to work hard for what they want in life. They don’t make a boogeyman out of men and they are taught both what to expect from a man and how to treat one too. That’s why men in the west such as myself are drawn to non western women. They’re just better in my opinion and experiences. I’m sure that there are good western women out there, but they’re diamonds in amongst the stones.

Western women = Taught what to expect from a man, but not how to treat a man.

nineteenletterslong_ · 2023-02-11T22:43:03+00:00

poorer women are easier to bribe into a relationship. poorer men too probably but nobody wants to bribe them

strange-gamer20xx · 2023-02-11T20:59:55+00:00

It's not a perfect solution.

Feminism has spread on global level.

By vast majority, those women from poorer countries still practicing hypergamy in some form or shape. They are treating those men well till they get to Europe or America to get either brainwashed or to get all the privileges from the Simps in the government.

It might solve a problem for some of those "Pros" but they will have to consider not coming back to their country.

The problem with Passport Bros is that they don't understand that this is not a golden pill. The problem is simply being moved from one place to another as they make the competition over dating pool harsher and harder in the other countries.

So what Andrew Tate said is actually correct. A woman living in some poor remote village, gets on Instagram and gets DMs from super wealthy people in Dubai or other places.

The competition is too fierce that either men will end up tearing each other or we need to fix the disaster with women in the West to get every Western man a good wife and not put other men in other nations in worse circumstances by increasing the supply of men in the dating pool.

The woman in the Philippines will see her friends getting married to American handsome boys and then she will begin acting exactly the same like American women or worse in some aspects.

So while it might seem like a solution, it's temporary and actually not sustainable.

Even if those men go abroad where women are better, those men still need to dress well, get in shape, etc...; so there is still competition and grinding but it's slightly less worse than in America and Europe. However, the days are counted because the Feminists in the West are moving with their NGOs to "Liberate" the women in those 3rd countries which means we are going to WW3 for sure.

Lanky-Bank-320 · 2023-02-11T22:45:31+00:00

I have nothing against the passport bros I think they are going with good intentions

Perfectly-Not-Wrong · 2023-02-11T19:30:43+00:00

We can't force a man to make himself fall in a trap when he is totally aware of the consequences.

So Let them go find the real love where it is available and live it

stonedkc350 · 2023-02-13T01:08:00+00:00

Honestly, guys, this is my plan. My reasons are:

Money goes so much further. Was doing research & a guy built a house in the Philippines for $80k. A freaking mansion too! I'm in the mid-west & you can't even get land for that. Then all the regular living expenses. Everything is cheaper.

America is crumbling. Our infrastructure, education, morality, power, global influence, the economy, the leaders, etc. Sad to witness but I have to accept reality. I don't see it getting fixed anytime soon & definitely not before my children.

US crime rates are bad & many countries much better. India is one.

I'm an average white guy. I don't even get past the filters for dating in the US. In South America or Asia, I'm their "tall, dark, & handsome". Can't change my height, but can change to a country where my height is desired.

The women! Like many have said outside the US they have the traits I want. Feminine, soft, kind, nurturing, etc. Believe in the vows they take and so much more. It is really bad here in the US to the point of fearing these women. US women have so much experience in relationships they run laps around me. Can manipulate me & I don't realize until I start tasting the shit dumped on my head. I've been doing monk mode for a bit to hit some financial goals. In a moment of weakness went on a dating app. Set age 21 to 35 & only 2 of the women didn't already have kids. A single mother is not a sword I want to jump on again.

I got 2 more years before making the move. Keep a few of my properties & business going in US & visit occasionally. Haven't picked the country yet. I've visited South America & plan to visit India or Asia this fall. Hope to have my country picked & start researching cities in 2024. Of course lots of variables & hopefully it all works out.

kazadi99 · 2023-02-11T12:32:40+00:00

Well im in south east asia right now and frankly... they're hard to resist and put western women to shame. They'ry caring, loyal ( not all of them), beautiful at 40 still, have sexy bodies, and cheap to keep.

OwnerAndMaster · 2023-02-11T19:17:37+00:00

I don't have an opinion. It has very little to do with Men's Rights (except in like Sweden where they ~~banned~~ tried banning local men from marrying foreign women in order to maintain a monopoly)

I do believe that breaking the monopoly that badly behaved westerners have over their men is crucial to sweetening the local dating pool a bit more, and maybe getting some legal protections against predatory divorce for western men

But it's even more likely to backfire as simps & single moms demand an end to western men's ability to travel and enjoy better women

I've already seen a video with a BAW saying it needs to be outlawed for the sake of BAWs. The liberal hivemind won't take long to pick that up, they've already sided with BAW against BAM & in general side with women against men

mrkpxx · 2023-02-11T12:58:51+00:00

Asian women respect men, and western men respect them too. It is a team or call it family.

Miggymoggy · 2023-02-11T15:04:50+00:00

These men are fed up of rummaging through garbage over and over again in their native country to get nothing more than a woman, who is worse than having a second boss that they hate, so if they find happiness abroad. I personally wish them well.

Western women are annoyed at this. Not because the men are actually going abroad but because they are taking their money and other resources with them.

The black mouthy women who keep ranting about passport bros are the worst I've seen as they are usually trashy ghetto single mothers with multiple children (probably to different men) and wearing disgusting wigs and weaves............No man should ever get with such human garbage.

el_jefe1978 · 2023-02-11T17:52:21+00:00

Let those folk find their happiness wherever they can.

Reasonable_Listen514 · 2023-02-12T09:16:36+00:00

Good for them. Dodging the western bullets. Maybe they actually have a chance at a lasting marriage and family.

2023-02-12T15:07:21+00:00

I wouldn't ever want to marry an American women they're too entitled

And they get old/fat faster and easier. Foreign girls eat healthier and stay skinnier

minneapplecat · 2023-02-13T00:45:07+00:00

The point is to move to their country. Bringing them back is not the move.

reverbiscrap · 2023-02-13T02:35:43+00:00

Find yourself a good Asian girl. White women are crazy.

2023-02-12T07:43:25+00:00

great for them, as someone from a non western country i can say women where i come from do realise they need men, are not feminists and think cooking and taking care of their men while being taking care of is the most normal thing in the world. unlike modern western countries we don't have a 50% divorce rate. It's pretty fucking obvious all this yass queen new age shit isnt working.

denisc9918 · 2023-02-12T01:35:36+00:00

In the west almost all women want a man that earns more but somehow when other cultures want the same thing it's a problem...

Maybe it's something else the western women are worried about.. hmmm what could it be... LOL

Alternative-Mix7712 · 2023-02-13T00:50:54+00:00

Long story short- every single passport bro I’ve met is a loser who expects a traditional housewife/Instagram model girlfriend that he can’t even afford to support.

They go to poor countries where women are easier to exploit. They tell the woman they can’t work & say they will support them but refuse to marry them. If you have to essentially trap a woman into this type situation in order to have a girlfriend that’s definitely a you problem.

Example:

I lived in Japan for a while + travelled around SE pretty extensively. This was before they called themselves Passport Bros but they still existed (in Japan they were called LBH -loser back home)

I have met tons of passport bros and here’s a conversation I recently had that pretty much perfectly represents every interaction I’ve had with them:

• The guy (he’s black, most are) tells me he hates black women because they “won’t let him take care of them” & he wants a girlfriend that stays home, but he worked at subway and lived with 4 roommates.

So, can’t afford to live on his own but also expects a live-in girlfriend that he would be supporting somehow.

• Then he tells me his last gf became a feminist and broke up with his because she thought he was cheating. I ask “were you”, he says “yeah”.

• He starts talking about how western women don’t take care of their bodies like Asians do. I hear this ALL the time and every guy that says this is carrying at least 50 extra pounds and obviously doesn’t take care of his own body. Yet they all are looking for a the “instagram model type” girl.

• I ask how they know the woman won’t just divorce them after getting citizenship. They ALWAYS say “biggest rule is to never marry them” so they can’t have a cent from you in the first place. So if a woman is raising your children, doing housework, cooking etc. that’s the cost of a nanny ($50,000 a year), maid ($15,000 a year), and personal chef ($60,000) a year that she’s providing for you.

She’s already providing free services and you expect her to expect $0 in support from you while she’s with you?

Even women in poor countries aren’t going to do that

• And when I talk to women with passport bro bfs they always tell me some story about how their boyfriend is going to buy them a house in LA or Miami. I ask what he does for work and they say something like “he’s a chef at a restaurant in Atlanta. It’s called Arby’s” or “he’s a manager at target! He’s on paid vacation and living in Thailand for 8 months now”.

Then they all say they love passport bros and don’t like western women who are against it because they’re smart enough not to be exploited. Lots of them are smart and well educated but are still being exploited but remain pro-passport bro because they’re too blinded to see what’s going on

randonumero · 2023-02-11T16:49:50+00:00

My big thought is the only people complaining are western women. Men have been marrying foreign women for years. Big difference now is you more men, especially black men, vlogging about it. Sure some are critical of western women but I've found that most are just looking for something many western women don't or won't offer.

As long as it's not predatory there's zero wrong with a guy going to the place where he can most importantly find a woman who has values he wants and also be able to maximize certain qualities about the woman. Honestly if western women really care then they should change their expectations as well as what they have to offer men.

To be fair to the movement, I've found that many guys who really aren't about shit can go over there and smash but don't have true relationships as they have just as little to offer foreign women as they do women in the west.

Last thing I'll mention is a video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3H_IaD72SQ) I saw a few weeks ago where a woman mentioned she was early 30s with kids and had nothing to offer a decent man aside from her vagina. I'd say that's sadly true of a lot of women in the west. She's probably not a bad person but she's already using up a lot of what a man may want from her. In addition to that she so used to being "the man" it's hard for her to be a female partner to a man.

Planimation4life · 2023-02-12T07:07:13+00:00

Here in the UK i feel women are become more masculine while men less. Women in other countries have been brought up with stronger traditional values

djc_tech · 2023-02-12T12:10:29+00:00

After my divorce and a bad relationship after I worked with some guys from Vietnam. I was kind of complaining about women and dating and they both said date and Asian girl. They treat guys well, they value guys and while they tend to be more quiet they will treat their guys well. I did briefly date some Asian women in my area because why not, and it was nice. They were nice, polite and didn’t have boss bitch attitudes. Nothing ever materialized from them long term but I found it interesting it was guys who were Asian telling me to date Asian women.

I think there are good women out there but a majority of the career minded women aren’t marriage material. Not if you want kids - but I’d highly recommend not getting married as it’s not worth it in the long run as you’ll end up divorced.

And just because you go to Latin America and East Asia ti find a woman doesn’t mean you’ll have success, I know two men who are getting divorced from women from those areas so it’s not always a paradise.

Of you want to have kids and marry find a woman who was brought up with traditional values and has a good relationship with their father. Not a princess mentality but a good relationship with her dad and brothers. My mistake in my first marriage is her and her brother hates each other and her relationship with her dad was “ok”. My long term relationship I had after my divorce she hated her dad…see the pattern? Also try to find someone not jaded and run through which means I’d they’re in their 30s and have kids etc it should be a automatic no

JustJ42 · 2023-02-11T13:38:15+00:00

I just find it interesting when people in the MRA say they don’t want men viewed for their wallets but will then also be passport bros to get women who are probably in worse financial situations then they are who may or may not be using the man to escape her own situation. It’s very confusing

RotodyneDghaisa74 · 2024-05-22T12:56:51+00:00

Some guys find they connect better with women from different cultures. It's all about what works for you. I met my amazing girlfriend through SofiaDate, and it’s been a great experience. It's a good site if you're looking to meet someone special from another country.

sdvd_xxx · 2023-02-11T23:49:32+00:00

Most of the time it’s weird and gross because their relationship ends up playing into a weird fetish, rather than a healthy, diverse relationship.

Digitaldreamer7 · 2023-02-12T13:26:55+00:00

They're trying to find a needle in a haystack or polishing the brass on the Titanic. I applaud them for the devotion and motivation, I just wish they'd focus that on getting the shit fixed, rather than finding out that the problem exists everywhere.

thegoodearthquake · 2023-02-12T08:53:20+00:00

Just like buying Toyota over a Chrysler ?

runner557 · 2023-02-12T12:18:17+00:00

Im not against people finding happiness wherever. And that's their own business and wish every marriage well and good luck. However, I think it should be noted that women are pretty much the same everywhere. There is no magic utopian fantasyland of great women out there. They all have the same biological programming. The cultural situations or traditions may vary somewhat. But if you are a western man and you take a woman from a non-western culture and bring her to your country (especially the younger ones), she will begin to assimilate the new culture and start acting like a western woman you were trying to get away from. She will also realize in the west, you are nothing special. You are a top 50% man, and just like all women, she will begin to feel like she deserves the top 5% man. If the better opportunity ever presents itself, she'll bolt. That's what all women do regardless of their location. She will target the top men of the social-economic ladders she has access to.

Also more and more countries are becoming westernized as the world becomes more global. Eastern European and Russian women used to be great 20-30 years ago, but those cultures have become increasingly westernized. You go there today and the young women have their heads buried into their phones and have become addicted to social media praises just as much as a young woman in NYC, London, or Paris. You might still find a few there, especially early 30s worth pursuing. But most young women in those countries dream of being a western woman. And they will try to look and act like a western woman.

sabazurc · 2023-02-12T16:35:09+00:00

I have seen some women in the west complaining online that their husbands do not do chores or that husbands should do their own 50% share of chores and I agreed because I thought all their women also worked just like their husbands...turns out many of them do not, that means they are lazy, entitled and spoiled...and considering how often they wanna divorce, no wonder men do not want to marry them.

MIW100 · 2023-02-12T23:24:38+00:00

I don't care

Alternative-Mix7712 · 2023-02-12T23:34:26+00:00

I lived in Japan for a while and they’re they are called LBH (loser back home) which is quite accurate

I’ve met quite a few and the gist every time is that they pretty much all say feminism has ruined their ability to date, and rich countries are all feminist so they have to go to poor countries but not Africa. IMO it’s pretty easy to connect the dots as to why poor countries where women don’t tend to have financial independence or respect are easier to date. Most of them are black but hate black women / say they’re not traditional enough but black men do often tend to treat women like shit.

Also every passport bro I’ve met just lies. For ex one woman I met told me her passport bro was buying her a house in LA (I knew him as well, he worked at subway). I asked him what he would do when she wanted to move or how he knows she wouldn’t just divorce him after getting citizenship. He said easy, never marry them.

Telling a woman you’ll financially support her and not marrying her just so she can’t get citizenship is not a good situation for her.

IMO any man who has to essentially trap a woman to get a girlfriend is the problem

reverbiscrap · 2023-02-13T07:46:44+00:00

As a black man who knows several Passport Bros personal, fly, Passport Bros, fly ✈

The absolute best part about it all is that it has brought western women out to show their ass to the ENTIRE WORLD. Now everyone can see on tiktok exactly why these brothers are fleeing the communitah, and God bless them, go where you are valued and respected.

The myopic detractors in this thread can kick rocks. The men I know, and the men they know, are all skilled, high earners tired of the racism, classism, colorism, elitism, and misandry of the modern West, the simmering, constant contempt and fakeness of the women who share their reflection, and are leaving for places that respect them as men first.

1029384745612 · 2023-02-16T07:01:49+00:00

Honestly I would and probably will. I want a wife not a "girl bro"

Steveaky · 2023-03-01T20:15:35+00:00

Most Western women over 30 are unattractive overweight self entitled moaning munters especially here in UK 🇬🇧 Eastern European and South American girls are way more feminine more friendly respectful and sexy. They are also not insecure like Western women who have been brainwashed by the Zionist mainstream media narratives and agendas to hate on men to give their kids up for day care and nannies to deliberately destroy the family unit. It’s sad they fallen for it and haven’t got the intelligence to see they’ve been fooled

carmeldaylite · 2023-11-14T15:20:24+00:00

Could care less. I will start a go-fund me to pay for their travel expenses.

Title	Thoughts on passport bros marrying foreign women rather than western women
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Date	February 11, 2023 12:27 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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