A Feminist who is an "MRA", is like a Square Which is a Circle

Frankly_No · 2013-09-01T03:47:33+00:00

We just had a post about this exact thing.

Tell you what - show me a feminist who will publicly renounce the idea of "patriarchy", the idea of "male privilege" and the idea of "rape culture". Only then will I believe that there is such a thing as an "MRA Feminist".

You've really never heard of Christina Hoff Sommers? She has a book recommended on the sidebar. Well, I gave you one, going to hold up your end of the bargain?

hankhankhank · 2013-09-01T02:54:54+00:00

thing you gotta realise is that through a lot of jockeying and manipulationg of social zeitgeist, for many people feminism = equality = the default for a decent well-rounded person.

so when you've got this ideaology that has co opted and forced the mainstream awareness of egalitarianism under it's umbrella, you get people who think that feminism = equality. a narrative designed to wear the coat of a sheep while lobbying for the wolves will eventually lead to the flock believing a wolf's perspective to be default.

which means that personally, when i see someone say they're a feminist and an MRA, all i see is someone who hasn't seen the wolf for the sheep.

christ that's an awful metaphor...

Lawtonfogle · 2013-09-01T04:59:29+00:00

A square circle? I choose you, non-Euclidean multidimensional geometry.

rommeltastic · 2013-09-01T03:12:40+00:00

Neither has to be exclusive. There are issues that women face that men don't, and there are issues that men face that women don't. Someone who claims to be both is probably someone who is looking to level the playing field by trying to fix BOTH problems rather than maintain a status quo.

Nomenimion · 2013-09-01T03:03:02+00:00

Not necessarily. You could be both a feminist and an MRA if you were:

-Pro-choice. -Supported tough penalties for false rape accusers, but also for rape. -Support women working, but also reducing male workplace fatalities. -Supported finding ways to reduce violence against both women and men, without resorting to bogus statistics.

It's possible, but rare.

VenusVox · 2013-12-20T01:51:29+00:00

The only way a feminist is also an MRA is if that person is somehow still convinced that feminism means equality. :/

HilscherFarms · 2013-09-01T03:20:07+00:00

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Pecanpig · 2013-09-01T05:19:41+00:00

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dakru · 2013-09-01T03:19:45+00:00

Tell you what - show me a feminist who will publicly renounce the idea of "patriarchy", the idea of "male privilege" and the idea of "rape culture". Only then will I believe that there is such a thing as an "MRA Feminist".

Christina Hoff Sommers, perhaps? I don't know everything she's written but what I do know of it has been solid criticism of the particular unreasonable ideas within mainstream feminism. Read her take on rape culture, for example. Sure, she's not mainstream feminism—I'd call her an alternative feminist—but you don't have to be the most common type of something to still be one type of that something.

rightsbot · 2013-09-01T02:48:17+00:00

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Title	A Feminist who is an "MRA", is like a Square Which is a Circle
Author	fidelbogen
Upvotes	0
Comments	79
Date	September 1, 2013 2:46 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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