What are your opinions on the Tate brothers, Hamza and Balkan Gains?

Mrs_Drgree · 2023-03-18T16:43:19+00:00

Removed for low effort.

JNRoberts42 · 2023-03-18T10:27:20+00:00

Besides grifters capitalizing on the angst of teen boys?

They are a piss poor substitute for an actual support system. They employ psyops in exactly the same way politicians and other demagogues do: they pretend to hate what teen boys hate in order to generate personal revenue.

microphone_commander · 2023-03-18T10:24:47+00:00

Cornballs, all of them, unanimously

Zadacat · 2023-03-18T10:57:49+00:00

I thought Balkan gains was a meme channel?

And the Tate brothers I mostly disagree with, I don’t like their worldview and how they talk about people.

Hamza at least has some good ideas, but isn’t fully accurate either.

But I am not one who listens to 1 person that deals with every subject

Anxious-Tailor-7182 · 2023-03-18T09:54:18+00:00

Their only goal is to sell useless shit. So there's no significant difference between Tate, Hamza and any random telemarketer. They'll tell you any bullshit you want to hear if it helps them selling their shit.

MouthSandTeethTongue · 2023-03-18T09:50:40+00:00

Whatever makes people seethe, that's my opinion.

anon-sucks · 2023-03-18T10:29:04+00:00

They make more good points than bad. If you ignore their expectations on how men should work themselves to death to provide for women, and focus on what men should do for themselves, their advice is solid. Work out, focus on yourself, lead by example.

Sanddune1 · 2023-03-18T10:41:13+00:00

Tate brothers are way too polarizing and provocative for me. They work well as comedians but not at all as advice gurus.

Hamza's beginnings are very inspiring for me but I still think that his world view is sometimes too polarized. Also he relies too much on bro science (f.e. video about testosterone). Still, he put out a lot of great advice about how to get out of a bad mental state.

Never watched any Balkan gains video.

I think that motivational videos are mostly a cope to procrastinate after a certain point. And you reach that point very quickly.

FlyV89 · 2023-03-18T10:57:55+00:00

I don't know who the hell are those people except for this bald dude, the Teite.

Initially I thought he was one of these coaching gurus of dates and bitcoins who teach young men to be "Alpha", but then I saw a short podcast of him and I tell you...

He's low key awesome. Shit you not.

First, because he's a motherfucking possitive jerk, he has this attitude of "IDGAF" and "I'm the king of the world/I'm the man/the Big GI" or whatever that initially make me thought "well, I know why so many people hate him" but then after listening for a while there is some hardcore phylosophycal roots behind his reassoning.

I can relate to him honestly. I'm a few years younger than him I think, but I'm quite well off, I have a job I enjoy and where I kick asses at, I'm a hell of a confident man and yeah, I've worked through the years to learn how to stay possitive even if I get shit over shit over shit.

Second, the dude speaks his mind, wether people like it or not, and I appreciate men who are not afraid of saying out loud what they are thinking at the moment.

Third, the dude says it the way it is, no dancing around the issue, he goes stright to the point. I like that.

Fourth, the dude has serious issues with following authority, wether that's good or bad is up to each one of us to decide. Personally I tend to play by the rules, but I'm not afraid of breaking a few if that's what I must do.

Also, he's pretty good at debating about his point of view and he does hace some good points.

And last but not least... You can't deny the man is telling some truth right there you know.

I'll see if I can find the video.

Edit:

https://youtu.be/Gp2PwNcj2x4

This is one segment of the podcast I was talking about. Honestly, the guy nails it everytime, at least from the male point of view, he's simple yet quite clinic when he's trying to make a point, he has a huge mouth but still is respectful towards women, and even the women seem to agree with him about some of his talking points.

It is so good that almost looks sketched.

While I may disagree with lots of the things he says, I don't have doubts about why the dude is so famous in mainstream media.

PS: he's also entertaining to watch, and seems to at least have a first hand experience about what he's talking about.

For example when he says men at the top get a lot of action and leave dudes at the bottom without any prospects, I believe his right, and sure I Googled him and saw a video of the dude and his son in a yatch full of good looking gals who 100% sure are not there to play cards.

Like... You can explain to me how these girls are a particular kind of women and how most women are not like that yada yada but... Reality is reality.

As far as we know, there are 20 dudes out there who can't find their soulmate because she's in a yatch with a rich jock haha.

energeticallyyours · 2023-03-18T09:56:48+00:00

Grifters

According_Talk_3084 · 2023-03-18T11:50:49+00:00

A lot of people hate them.

If a person let's themselves dictate how they should feel about someone then yeah, this is what happens.

It is funny how so many people, act all wise and knowledgeable and above the rest yet blindly jumps into what Twitter and Juristical chicanery tells them how they should feel.

About Andrew Tate and the accusations. Isn't it strange? Apparently he did what he is accused of since years and everyone apparently knew about this yet he gets arrested only now? That is absolutely strange and raises a lot of question marks.

In the discussion of Tate, there is a lot of bad faith argumentation going on.

TotalTravesty · 2023-03-18T12:33:28+00:00

They’re proof that there’s good money to be made validating people’s anger than offering a productive solution.

It would be easy to laugh at or just ignore the little cash cow of unpleasant boys they’ve built for themselves if said unpleasant boys wouldn’t grow up to become society’s problem after their online daddies skip town. A demagogue no matter how rich or successful is still just one person. It’s the army of drones left in their wake that’s exhausting. Like when an owner doesn’t clean up after their dog and some stranger accidentally steps in it.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2023-03-18T13:38:43+00:00

All of them are grifters and if you watch them for a year, you will have lost a year of your life with nothing to show gif it and they will have made money off you from the ads (don’t forget to like and subscribe) or maybe directly.

So it’s up to you how long you want to waste time listening to them and not actually getting what you want in life while they live their dream life off you and a bunch of other fans.

Free_Office_4400 · 2023-03-18T10:20:42+00:00

Ah shit. Lol I can feel the downvotes coming because my opinion is so moderate it's gonna offend absolutely everyone equally but fuck it.

I'm only really familiar with the tate bros but they seem like really cheerful laid back, and entertaining dudes. Their core message seems religiously motivated and while im really not given to buy into religious doctrine you really can't go wrong by saying "express your most dominant form" which is to say strive to be your best self.

Now that having been said, while I personally doubt they're guilty of sex trafficking, they're definitely a pair of snake oil salesman.

TermAggravating8043 · 2023-03-18T10:21:58+00:00

These are the guys that are getting done with rape and human trafficking yeah?

BecretAlbatross · 2023-03-18T12:15:51+00:00

Tate is dangerous and definitely huge percentage grifter. I think Tate is probably the smartest guy in the manosphere but probably also the most dishonest.

Hamza seems more honest. I can empathize with his feelings and the spirit of his videos seems genuine even if I don't agree with everything he says.

Not familiar with Balkan Gains.

prof_tamura · 2023-03-18T15:06:51+00:00

The people you mentioned are so different from each other. Tates are clearly really really smart scumbags running an open pyramid scheme. Half of their words don't even make sense. Hamza is a self help youtuber. His videos are just cookie cutter self improvement advice just recycled for the 14 year old bros. But he has that relatibility which makes him appeal to an younger audience, kind of like a big brother. His self help advice is mostly on point, but as I said, if you consumed self help content anytime in the past 5 years you'd know what he says is just basic shit. Balkan gains is a meme channel. They're clearly some 16 year old edgy teenagers trying to own the libs.

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RPslimjim · 2023-03-18T15:41:52+00:00

I understand them for what they are, entertainment. There’s good and there’s bad.

SenseiChoppa888 · 2023-03-18T15:49:21+00:00

Tate is a cryptocurrency scammer who runs a pyramid scheme drawing in people through his social media influence, taking advantage of rebellious and wannabe tough young men and got in trouble with Eastern European mafia for not paying off debt and now hes got himself caught for human trafficking (which was a business he started to help him pay off the debt in the first place), and i guarantee you the mafia members that he pissed off is giving him hell in the prisons right now. His dumbass shouldn’t have borrowed that money, now he’s screwed.

Hamza, also known as Scamza or Dumbza, is a redpill pick up artist grifter, hypocrite and loser who talks big but doesn’t really help anyone He wants teenagers to join his cult. Hamza’s advice is very simple and anyone with half a brain could cook up what he’s selling.

Balkan Gains is just a random dude from the balkans who makes zyzz edits and speaks really poor english.

Title	What are your opinions on the Tate brothers, Hamza and Balkan Gains?
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Date	March 18, 2023 9:49 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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