Can somebody help me to understand, why the men who run the system are allowing men to be discriminated by the very system they created? Why does it feel like feminism are winning ? I just don’t get it

PricklyGoober · 2023-03-17T01:44:32+00:00

In general, the elites only care about themselves and their kin. They dgaf who their laws disadvantage as long as it benefits them.

The general public tends to view women’s issues as more pressing, thus said elites are more inclined to care more about women’s issues as a result, just to pacify the masses (PR is still important for leaders).

This leaves the problems that the average man faces, more or less unresolved.

AutobanThrowaway · 2023-03-17T02:46:00+00:00

Because for all the kicking and screaming, we do NOT live in a patriarchy. What we have is nepotistic elites only caring about each other, and viewing the rest of us as very loud and whiny resources. Some exist to produce more resources, some exist to die for their goals, that's it.

Francis_Dollar_Hide · 2023-03-17T04:39:00+00:00

Because divided people are easier to control.

yoitsericc · 2023-03-17T02:10:58+00:00

Because single people are being profited off of. When people are sad, lonely and divided, it is easy to make money by selling them dating apps, pornography, video games and social media.

You know who is hard to sell to? Someone who feels genuinely loved and secure.

lumpynose · 2023-03-17T04:06:08+00:00

The articles in the media, magazines, news, web, are largely written by women. They write with the slant that women are disadvantaged. The media has a lot of influence.

ReWildingOfMen · 2023-03-17T08:02:31+00:00

I can explain it in CRYSTAL clear terms.

Firstly that you define the system as being run by men, is.... Missing a trick.

The system is running exactly as it is intended to. It is a system of lies, a system of divide and conquer, so that the plebs argue amoung themselves as they are gradually deprived of more and more freedoms and liberties.

The most effective prisons and forms of slavery, are those that the prisoner/slave doesn't realise they are a prisoner or a slave.

Those who run the system, are men and women, they are the modern day aristocracy, they are the dark shepherds, they are the cabal, they are the 0.01% 'elites.'

They consider us to be useless eaters, they consider us to be little more than livestocks and resources.

They will keep on dividing us by religion, social class, race, gender etc.... Just as the British empire used to spread rumours to different tribes in Africa, to set them at each others throats, and so make them easier to govern.

They push feminism because they know it will also create a pushback against it, a pushback they will likewise control and steer.... It's an unending too and fro, while they pursue and enact their true agenda.

Also, men are the protectors by nature. And the surest way to weaken a man is through his relationship to womankind. Corrupt women, make them attack the men, and so compromise the men so they cannot stand up and be counted.

That you define it as 'the men in power,' unfortunately highlights just how lost in perception you are.

Early-Department-234 · 2023-03-17T03:27:41+00:00

Before Aaron Russo mysteriously died, he explained in an interview that he was told by a Rockefeller that the elites funded feminism to gain more taxes, indoctrinate children and in general, become richer.
It's all about concentration of wealth and destroying the family unit. Think a feminist from the University of Toronto cares about consent and mansplaining when she is in bed with a wealthy Bay Street mogul or Canadian politician?

uthinkwrong · 2023-03-17T05:26:38+00:00

It basically proves why feminism is a total crock of sh*te..

If men were as vindictive against women as feminists say they are... there would be no feminism.

Financial_Window_990 · 2023-03-17T02:07:18+00:00

Men aren't running the system and never have. An analogy: If you suddenly became rich you probably wouldn't know what to do with it all. What to invest in, or even really how. So you hire a firm, setting up with a person to make the right decisions on a day to day basis to meet your goals. Important part: YOUR goals. Now, if that person is a man you have a "patriarchy" of your finances regardless of your sex. Remember though, it's your goals, not the advisors. Yours. This is analogous to our society, our patriarchy. We have, by majority, men in positions of power. This is how it's been for thousands of years. Those men make the day to day decisions and in some ways it looks like they are in control. But.....They're not. They're just doing their jobs. Just like the investment advisor makes day to day decisions with your finances but YOU are really the one in power, it is women who have all the power in society. It is women who decide things and men who are tasked with figuring out how to do it. With making the day to day decisions to bring it about. This filters from the leaders of nations to the average guy you meet every day. Everything is centered around meeting the needs and wants of women. She wants a new kitchen table? It's her man's job to figure out how to get the money, purchase it, bring it home, and set it up in the dining room. She wants no responsibility in society? She has none, we won't even saddle her with the vote. She changes her mind and wants the vote now? She got it. Everything comes back to men doing everything they do either on orders from women or as part of a plan to please her.

JollyFawn90 · 2023-03-17T08:34:16+00:00

The elites saw this as a long play. And it worked. Now they get double the workers, for half the price, people fighting against each other instead of with the elites, and more profits than they could ever imagine.

But now they are freaking out because people aren’t having babies, so they will make laws to force people to give birth and problem fixed. They literally don’t give a shit about us and our problems.

It’s all about what advantages them, and feminism benefits their bottom line. If men’s rights is something that they’ll see as advantageous to them, they’ll start churning the propaganda machine to help us out, but don’t think that’s their real goal. The part that irks me is that it works, and honestly that’s the most defeating part for me. I don’t know if that will ever change when people are so easily manipulated.

Status-Turnover-9677 · 2023-03-17T12:13:04+00:00

the female population is not a threat to the establishment, because by their nature they are "followers" by default and not "leaders" -as opposed to men, where we are biologically wired to take more risks and "carve" our own paths, and we don't subjugate ourselves as easily to higher authorities

whereas women are more like "sheeple" and follow trends and are easier manipulated, it's in the establishments' best interest to "empower" women and debilitate and disempower men's position in society, this is both for monetary/marketing reasons as well as to better restraint and control the populace while minimizing risk of opposition against their corrupt policies

WeEatBabies · 2023-03-17T08:15:40+00:00

Men don't run the system!

dw87190 · 2023-03-17T04:40:39+00:00

Because both left wing and right wing agendas benefit from the subjugation of working class, therefore they both find it's in their best interest to aid the cause that seeks to keeps us down

The_Equalitarian · 2023-03-17T03:47:51+00:00

I dont think this alone is their plan. I think it's all about creatng the most confusion possible

ATWaltz · 2023-03-17T08:04:31+00:00

They profit from individualism, and everybody working both men and women full time increases productivity and pushes labour costs down due to increased supply, as well as ensuring more money is spent in the economy.

They also benefit politically by creating factions amongst the populace that weakens the strength and likelihood of the populace when it comes to rising up and revolting against them, especially in favour of socialism, as feminism and other social movements that by their nature exclude and villainise large portions of the populace are always likely to alienate voters who might otherwise agree with the economic side of "left" policy.

DutchOnionKnight · 2023-03-17T08:47:25+00:00

Because men who created the system are not concerned about other men. Theynl only care about money. And especially their own money, and thus their jobs. So the perfect way to do so, is to boost one social movement whonclaims to be the most depressed by them. Gove the victims what they want. And you'll rule forever.

Example. The government don't want to lose money for childsupport. So what do you do, you oblige men to pay childsupport, and reject every DNA test that you get thrown in your face. Till the point you throw men in jail for missing a payment. Which is still cheaper than pay vhildsupport via welfare.

Royal_IDunno · 2023-03-17T08:52:50+00:00

Because feminists are like children… when they don’t get what they want they throw a tantrum and the gov gives them whatever they want to shut them up.

MrRonchito · 2023-03-17T09:55:19+00:00

Because demoralized men don't fight back, as simple as that.

DiscardedShard · 2023-03-17T10:43:17+00:00

It's never been a gender issue. It's always been a class issue.

Even in the formulation of caste systems in the early Middle East, women from wealthy families were married with substantial dowries whereas women from poor families had no such privilege and were basically married with the implication that their bodies were their dowries.

The upper class men and women had no problem forcing their counterparts to live a life where the husband basically had to pimp his wife to survive and that form of prostitution was so common it's part of the reason full body and face covering garbs became so normalized in the first place - poor men felt emasculated that they couldn't protect their own lives from that sort of lifestyle.

The poor pay the price not the rich. Rich women and rich men are laughing all the way to the bank.

The entire gender dispute is a different one of course. There are very real differences to be addressed and some of it is very practical but ultimately if we carved more economic opportunities out of the pie for everyone else, these issues would be minimized as people would be less bitter and angry and turning on eachother.

Trad wives could be trad wives and boss bitches could be boss bitches and we wouldn't be spending time talking about which is which. Men could afford houses and vacations, work to live a high quality and rewarding life and then they wouldn't be feeling like a relationship is as important because damn, the single life is good when you're reasonably wealthy.

Passport bros go where expectations are more realistic. The main issue is the "delusional expectations" we have in this society are made more obvious by the fact that even the basic minimum quality of life is being dangled infront of us like a carrot to chase.

MultipleHeadshot · 2023-03-17T12:11:54+00:00

Because it’s orchestrated, weak men means no revolt.

redTanto · 2023-03-17T12:52:27+00:00

"rules for thee but not for me"

silent_thunder1618 · 2023-03-17T15:17:54+00:00

Simple it's profitable...

Character_Pirate_618 · 2023-03-17T04:51:55+00:00

Wealthy and powerful men pander to women to stay wealthy and powerful men. Such men have no problem throwing 'lessor men' under the bus. Both Biden and Trump got multiple deferments to stay out of Vietnam. So did a lot of other high level government executives. It's simple exploitation and has been going on for decades now.

Sirhugh66 · 2023-03-17T07:44:57+00:00

Supporting feminism buys votes for politicians.

aren3141 · 2023-03-17T09:08:32+00:00

Do men “run the system”?

djc_tech · 2023-03-17T11:33:53+00:00

Because as JP had put it, it’s not really about men and some fake patriarchal cabal pushing women down and scheming against women. 99% of men are also discriminated against, held back or never get to be in power.

Long story short those in power - men and women - benefit from the system running the way it is. There is no need for them to change the status quo for them and it’s working.

hendrixski · 2023-03-17T11:46:32+00:00

why the men who run the system

News flash, it's not men who run the system. Nor even are men the ones who benefit from the system. Men are among those who run the system and men are among those who are oppressed by the system.

allowing men to be discriminated by the very system they created

Men didn't create the system. What the fuck?

But the people at the top use gender differences to keep us oppressed. The men who are among that group often have a lot of anti-male views. They'll believe men's obligation is to fight in wars and to financially support women in divorce. Etc. These things don't apply to them because they're above the system so they don't go to war or get arrested the same way average men do.

internalized misandry

Sometimes, because society holds anti-male views, individual men will start to believe those things about themselves and about other men. This form of internalizing other people's biases against you is not a weakness on the part of the individual men, it's rather showing the overwhelming power of the system. Even the men who are among the elites can fall to believing bad things men. It impacts their work on policy.

Shuddemell666 · 2023-03-17T14:56:19+00:00

Please, you're just buying into the patriarchy myth. There's no cabal of men plotting the suppression and oppression of women. And, sadly, feminism has won a large part of our culture....

Nihi1986 · 2023-03-17T15:15:41+00:00

Men didn't create the system, the men who run the system are very few men who don't give a crap about anyone else.

Dr_Hesp · 2023-03-17T16:27:02+00:00

One thing I'll say is that masculine men are very difficult to control. When the community is full of masculine men and the nuclear family, it's very difficult to control. Maybe it's based on control.

Sutanz · 2023-03-17T16:50:01+00:00

This is a globalist movement intended to weaken men and reduce the rights and population of western countries.We are not in the same group as those that run the world. They want to keep power and control and they are doing it perfectly.

Weak and supressed men would never start a revolution. They prefer men crying than men that fight for their rights or to climb on the system. The less competition the better.

You have believed the narrative that says that all men have privilege. That's a lie. A very small percentage of men have any privilege, 99% can only improve their lives if they fight and work for it.

Men are the most victims of violence, suicide, homelessness, work accidents, prison population...

abramN · 2023-03-17T17:12:26+00:00

Because these men have been indoctrinated by their mothers and their wives. Mothers teach boys to put girls on pedestals. Behind every straight male lawmaker, judge, etc is a woman that will henpeck him to death if his decisions don't benefit women in some way.

Ok_Night_7767 · 2023-03-17T17:59:22+00:00

The men who run the system already "have theirs". Given the current anti-male sentiment in our society, it is easy and popular for them to discriminate against other men. This serves to cement their own position while helping to eliminate at least some of the possible competition.

DerZerficker20x5cm · 2023-03-17T18:13:23+00:00

All laws are made by cucks who want to get in bed with women by whiteknighting. Fucking ridiculous

gear1989 · 2023-03-17T20:56:00+00:00

It's simple they're cucks and simps. Just take a look at their wives. The wives are usually battle axes.

kvakerok · 2023-03-17T23:47:26+00:00

The more chaotic the merrier for the elites. Dumdums that are at each other's throats don't notice their pockets being picked. They'll finance any movement that brings more chaos in.

Elterchet · 2023-03-18T02:25:17+00:00

Have you heard about depopulation and deindustrialization?

Character_Pirate_618 · 2023-03-17T04:55:46+00:00

Edward Bernays, an expert on propaganda, indirectly explains everything you need to know. Read his book and you'll understand how the entire world works.

hehimCA · 2023-03-17T08:45:06+00:00

I call it white knight syndrome. Rich and famous men want to remain rich and famous. Support women, put down other men. Get the adoration of women, and the other men are either left out or support you in your adoration of women.

For instance, Bidens gender policy council for women only. He gets the female vote. He gets the liberal male vote. Screw the men, less competition for him.

LordOafsAlot · 2023-03-17T09:23:28+00:00

The elites have always set the less fortunate on one another and the gender and sex wars are just another example of that... Feminism is a tool to keep us all under foot.

Terrible_Head_8847 · 2023-03-17T13:21:43+00:00

It’s simple pulling up of the ladder. They get the credit for their virtue signalling while not having to suffer any of the burden. Note that their own positions are never, ever up for debate.

caem123 · 2023-03-17T13:51:04+00:00

BlackRock and other big investors have ESG goals for businesses, schools, government, and any other cartel in our society.

If male leaders don't play along with environmental, social, and corporate governance rules then they will be fired by their board, all ESG enforcers.

MGTOW_FIR3 · 2023-03-17T15:10:51+00:00

because the elites want the average man to be weak

KalzK · 2023-03-17T15:46:16+00:00

Because it isn't about men vs women as in all men team up against all women. It's a fraction of psychopathic powerful men that fucks over everyone else. They benefit from having others being accused for their horrors.

Maxi-Spade · 2023-03-17T18:03:21+00:00

By the worldly standards of this world it looks that way. But by God's set standards no!

In the world this is what you see.

Men turning into women, all these genders that people accept, and real men off to the side saying why?

This is what God established in his kingdom.

Why did Jesus pick 12 disciples who were men to carry out his church?

The church leadership explained https://youtube.com/shorts/nNPnVQ8nH-w?feature=share

Research it for yourselves. The way they are trying to change Christianity is looking like a circus.

Just like they are doing to men! Men trying to be women. Turning them into women.

International woman's day taken over by males that had sex changes. https://youtu.be/kLlf7a-_E1U

The world is trying to change the church! They cannot change the one true church that belongs to God!

God stays the same even if the world wants to change everything! This is a fact!

Romans 12:2 Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what is the good, pleasing, and perfect will of God.

What does this mean? Don't be like the world! Men are Men and Women are Women. If we change to conform to the patterns of this world then we would be just like the world. Our faith wouldn't be a genuine faith.

Christians who follow Jesus Christ follow what nature intended us to be like. Real Men and Real Women. No artificial colorings or addictives. The real deal.

g1455ofwater · 2023-03-17T23:59:06+00:00

"The results showed that women showed in-group favoritism four times greater than men."

https://www.purdue.edu/uns/html4ever/2004/041213.Goodwin.gender.html

Also Gamma Bias.

https://youtu.be/LHYRYKCIDxk

The question you need to ask yourself is why do you believe that men at the top will help men in general. Just because a feminist has made that claim does not make it true. Feminists promote the Apex Fallacy.

eternalboobss · 2023-03-18T15:46:47+00:00

maybe because men aren’t actually being discriminated against systematically lol. all of the discrimination on this thread being talked about is prejudice towards men, not system discrimination.

iheartER · 2023-03-19T00:58:45+00:00

Ever since ww2 western white men have lost all pride

Aimless-Nomad · 2023-03-19T07:24:46+00:00

Watch this and rest of this guy's videos. You'll understand.

Man-splain · 2023-03-20T21:20:10+00:00

The few that actually influence the system are powerful enough that discrimination is irrelevant to them...other than that they can stoke it to help weaken the other men who might be able to threaten their seat of control.

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