‘There Was Definitely a Thumb on the Scale to Get Boys’

HogurDuDesert · 2023-09-10T06:27:40+00:00

I had a read through the article and everything they say here the university are doing is based on "he/she said", the matter of fact is that vast majority of gendered scholarships (except for maybe spesific sports one in America, and even, not sure) are still for women. So if they indeed are scraping so badly for men like this article pretend too, they're doing a pretty dam bad job at it by not using the most obvious tool used now for decades to open up doors to the female gender.

Current_Finding_4066 · 2023-09-10T07:32:48+00:00

"How to grant women their due while addressing the concerns that Roth and Reeves raise is a complicated question at any school, but offering more transparency would at least allow for a more informed debate."

How everyone is concerned about what women are due. What about men? Ostensibly the goad has been equality, but such statements obviously show that the real issue is how far they can degrade men to uplift women and still get away with it.

Godhole34 · 2023-09-10T11:15:46+00:00

I do find it funny that the whole part about dating is pretty much an incel argument about how hard it is to date as a man but reversed for women lol. And of course, this constitutes as toxic male culture, while the opposite is also toxic male culture. There's just no way to win.

Even as young women outnumber men on college campuses, and increasingly walk away with academic awards, men, some have argued, exert an outsize influence on campus social lives. In the 2015 book “Date-onomics,” the business reporter Jon Birger builds the case that hookup culture has become the norm on almost all college campuses, largely because the gender ratio is so skewed. In a world in which straight men are scarce, he maintains, they control the terms of social life. That argument may seem somewhat dated given that so many students now have a wider and more fluid understanding of gender and sexual orientation.

Even so, several women at Tulane expressed to me their sense that the gender ratio left them with fewer options, in sheer numbers and in the kinds of relationships available to them. Emma Roberts, who graduated from Tulane in the spring, told me she discussed the problem in her gender-studies class. “I think everyone’s consensus we came to was that it’s pretty disgusting trying to date,” she says. “Because the reality is you’re not likely going to find someone that wants to date you.”

Women I spoke to at the University of Vermont agreed that high numbers of female students did not necessarily make for a feminist haven. “It shocks me how many women we can have here and still have a horrible toxic male culture,” said one woman, a junior who didn’t want to be named because she was candidly discussing her sex life. On the evening I met her in early July at an outdoor cafe near campus, she and two friends spoke frankly about their frustrations with dating in college. They characterized the straight men at their school as “picky” and “cocky.” All three felt they had settled too often — that by the time they left school, they were less confident about what they had the right to ask for in a relationship. The young women were older and wiser than when they started, ready to head into the world with the economic advantages that are associated with a bachelor’s degree. But for all their achievements, they also left feeling — to use a word they all agreed on — “humbled.”

Schools’ efforts to attract men can create a strange dynamic: The scarcer men are, the more they end up driving a school’s priorities.

If only people could recognize that women hold this same position but for the west as a whole. But nah, they don't have any power amiright.

tzaanthor · 2023-09-10T08:18:55+00:00

Some schools are trying to attract male applicants by improving their sports programs; others invest more heavily in buying boys’ email addresses or give incentives to boys that they do not offer to girls — such as free stickers or baseball caps — for filling out information on the school website.

Really

tzaanthor · 2023-09-10T08:24:16+00:00

There's no way this is not an attempt to sound concerned about male attendance but actually be trying to stir up opposition to it.

ERiC_693 · 2023-09-10T04:20:13+00:00

https://archive.ph/Clsa9 this should unlock it.

Hope archive.ph links are legit.

psychosythe · 2023-09-10T14:42:24+00:00

So once again, men being systematically squeezed out of education is women's fault and we need to bootstrap up so that they don't feel the need to lower their sky-high dating standards.

I swear to fucking god we try so hard to avoid topics about the "D" word and it's all that ever comes up in regards to men's issues.

Also you could probably use a lot of words to describe young college women who just tried a mildly to moderately competitive dating scene, and "humbled" is never one of them.

BKEnjoyerV2 · 2023-09-10T01:52:18+00:00

Also this is about affirmative action for men in college admissions fyi

jessi387 · 2023-09-10T04:01:31+00:00

Pay wall

Low_Rich_5436 · 2023-09-11T15:29:22+00:00

This article tries so ducking hard to avoid unambiguously calling millions of men and boys being betrayed by the education system a "problem". It's just a thing that happens. But not enough female CEO, that is a PROBLEM.

Title	‘There Was Definitely a Thumb on the Scale to Get Boys’
Author	BKEnjoyerV2
Upvotes	72
Comments	29
Date	September 10, 2023 1:50 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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