How has sleeping with multiple women changed your views on relationships and gender dynamics?

Southern_Fall983 · 2023-09-26T12:13:33+00:00

I would say after 15+ over a few years you start to see black pill concepts play out in real time. If you’re not Chad but perhaps slightly above average you are going to be dating down significantly to get laid, there is simply no way around it. You start noticing the “unfairness” in the sexual market and by default the dating market.

Hubris1998 · 2023-09-26T10:29:04+00:00

I always say this. "Chads" are 10x more misogynistic than anyone here. They just don't show it in front of women. I also think that most incels are a BJ away from becoming bluepill.

NefariousNaz · 2023-09-26T13:19:51+00:00

There was a study showing just what you were saying that was posted in one of the forever done subs. Virgins/ incels were not any more misogynistic than the normal population. Sexually promiscuous men however were shown to be more misogynistic.

partyn3xtd00r6 · 2023-09-26T12:03:54+00:00

I source girls mainly off dating apps and have found out they’ve all had a taste of real Chads and Tyrone’s. Doesn’t even seem to matter how attractive the girl is. Also the abundance they have is insane even if you’re good looking there’s no shortage of hot guys for them to pick from. They are extremely picky and will look for reasons to disqualify u even if u didn’t give them any cause they just have too many options to choose from and can’t be bothered talking to that many guys at a time. So only the top of the top make the cut.

EverVigilant1 · 2023-09-26T15:20:24+00:00

--there is a basic female nature that all women have, consisting of hypergamy and a strong tendency to filter everything through emotions and feelings. AWALT.

--AF/BB is real

--When freed from economic considerations, women want good looking fun men who take care of their sexual needs

--Women really don't love men; they love what men do/will do for them

--Women are extremely good liars

--Women will always do what is in their self interest, regardless of anything else they say or do.

--Almost all women are not with the man they really wanted -they had to settle for "lesser" men. They could not get commitment from the men they really wanted/were sexually attracted to.

--women all suffer from the same primary dilemma: They can't get the men they want for commitment; they don't want the men who will commit

luroot · 2023-09-26T12:29:38+00:00

I believe that the most misogynistic men are the ones who sleep with the most girls. They see women as commodities or trading cards. Girls come and go for them. They picked them up and drop them off on whim. The same way girls will entertain guys and then ghost them

I don't believe that's misogynistic, just realistic. You realize that women are doing the exact same to men...but can understand why. Attraction is all strategically transactional. Women like having sex with hot partners, just like men. Although they may also have it to get other needs in life at the time fulfilled too (like finding stepdaddies or sugardaddies). So, she is never really interested in you...but just how you may fulfill a need of hers at the time. (At the end of the day, this usually boils down to your alpha genes and/or beta commitment/resources.) And if you don't...then there will be no interest. In short, you are objectified as a tool for her current life aspirations.

SilentCardiologistXX · 2023-09-26T11:38:14+00:00

My early experience with young girls 18-19

I was around same age.

They acted like, "not that I want you not that I don't"

Then they acted like "I am with you untill you get bored"

This told me all I wanted to know the about the kind of men they been with

They were emulating the men they slept with. They took up tattoos, Instagram curation, smoking from Chads they fucked

The more number of women I been with and befriended, more blackpilled I became.

I realized, women see average man same as they see chad. "He's not loyal, so I'll never be loyal to any man"

Most chads are blackpilled, anyone who spends time around women who are open to him will end up blackpilled.

The one kept at distance stay bluepilled.

Drougen · 2023-09-26T11:44:01+00:00

Idk if I could be with 10 different women in 5 years, that seems insane to me.

pop442 · 2023-09-26T23:01:10+00:00

I first had sex at 13 years old and used to be a fuckboy until I graduated college and matured.

Tbh, it didn't really impact my views on women at all but sex did become somewhat of an addiction for me during that time along with alcohol.

And the worst part is that my mom's a strict Christian woman so I was doing a lot of this sleeping around and drinking without her knowledge. To this day, she doesn't know even though my Dad was always aware and didn't gaf.

However, the roommates I had in my old condo back in Jersey were also "fuckboys" and they were tall White dudes who were Right Wingers, semi-racist(except never towards me funnily enough), and would say God awful shit about women behind their backs.

I was never into that but it just goes to show that the idea that male virgins are the biggest misogynists is hilariously out of touch. Many high n-count men who can sweet talk women will call them bitches and sluts behind their backs. I even knew an Italian guy who slept with some Puerto Rican girls while complaining about Hispanics "taking over the country" and supporting Donald Trump lmao.

But there's many high n-count men like myself who have nothing against women though and, if you meet me or some others like me in person, you'll see us treating them quite well and with respect.

EugeneCezanne · 2023-09-26T18:06:17+00:00

I find this question too vague to answer properly. Yes, I meet your criteria–but anything I have to say about what I’ve learned from it is just whatever I’m already saying in every post or comment I make on any dating sub. My experience already informs my perspective. What else are you looking for?

I believe that the most misogynistic men are the ones who sleep with the most girls. They see women as commodities or trading cards. Girls come and go for them. They picked them up and drop them off on whim.

Could be. But it sounds like any other negative stereotype. I date a lot of women because I like a lot of women.

a man whore will fuck many girls and ghost them

Some will, sure. I never ghost anyone. In fact, I have remained on pleasant terms with nearly all of the women I’ve ever slept with. Some of whom are, and have been, my closest friends.

In fact, in my experience, this tends to be true of the most prolific “man whores” I’ve ever known. A big part of their success is that they remain very well-regarded by the women in their lives, including friends, casual lovers and serious exes. And the not-so-secret secret to achieving that is just to genuinely like whoever you sleep with and treat everyone as well as you'd treat a friend.

DeepHouseDJ007 · 2023-09-27T02:19:50+00:00

I lost my virginity in my teens, did the whole college frat boy fuccboi thing and had a blast, and kept having a good dating / sex life afterwards but I’m definitely not misogynistic.

If anything I’ve learned that women enjoy sex as much as men but they have to be a lot more selective because most men are terrible lays. I’ve had girls initiate sex with me in the back of my university library, in cars, trains, and even someone’s garden at 4am on our way out of a club, and a bunch of other places, which has taught me that women are just as adventurous (if not more) as men once they found a partner who’s a good lay and that they trust / feel comfortable with.

DarkAdmirable653 · 2023-09-26T11:31:10+00:00

What have you learned from having access to a high amount of women?

That women really are only attracted to the same things, and have behavioral patterns that are similar to most other women (AWALT). That attraction and love can't be differentiated from most women (I've had women tell me they loved me before they even met me? Weird as fuck). I honestly am not sure if women can love, it's all just signals firing in their brain that a guy is hot or not.

Leaving-trunk · 2023-09-26T14:16:14+00:00

Ive been nearly hitting that metric in the last few years and prior to a LTR I was for years during college. Here’s what I learned, Just that they lie about what they like. They say they don’t like shallow, arrogant, aggressive guys. But when I behave like that I have good results. When I try to be a real human and have deep conversations, girls get bored. “Spark” and attraction is WAYYYYY more important than all the bullshit banal advice we give young men. You’re better off acting like an arrogant dickhead and pretending like you are the man than being self aware and humble and gentlemanly.

Edit: There was a time after a period of hoeing that I really was ready for a relationship I was like I want one good woman.

EugeneCezanne · 2023-09-26T18:19:37+00:00

Overall, the overwhelming truth of my experience is that if I'm trying to minimize the misogyny in my life, I would choose the company successfully promiscuous men over struggling men every time. The successfully promiscuous ones are, pretty much by definition, good with women, and so are less likely to have a ton of bitterness and resentment on their chest about them.

Most men who sleep with a lot of women aren't cold, calculating players out to use and abuse people. They're more like what is sometimes called "girl-crazy." They're kids in a candy shop-- happy guys living their best lives who get big, silly grins on their face every time someone pretty floats by. Beyond that, they don't even think about any of this stuff a tenth as much as the average guy here, let alone bother to develop strong negative opinions.

LaethelsGreenPussy · 2023-09-26T11:22:22+00:00

A) i find women are pretty superficial

B) a lot didnt like it when i showed emotional weakness

C) i actually find it funny when women claim to be asexual bc they're clearly just talking about less attractive guys

D) i dont resent women or anything, i just think the world is kind of stupid now

A1_wA1sh · 2023-09-26T12:21:40+00:00

it’s more to have a good personality than to be extremely good looking by far. i’ve gotten more women by being relatable and kind than off of my looks alone

TheHarald16 · 2023-09-26T11:54:46+00:00

Well, I can't live up to the last two years, because of my current relationship to my wife, but within 13 years, subtracted two relationships in total 8 years I might qualify.

Well, I learned that we men have a tendency to ascribe how we think in sexual matters to women.

You don't need to look like Chris Hemsworth, have the muscles of Ronaldo, or the height of Robert Wadlow. If you treat women as an actual human being and you can make them laugh, that is far more important than anything else.

onion_rings_addict · 2023-09-26T13:57:23+00:00

the problem with this is that he probably had a certain view of women and that made him sleep around a lot

EugeneCezanne · 2023-09-26T18:58:40+00:00

On another note, I don't think this is a good question to ask here, of all places, if you're serious about learning anything. First, this sub oversamples strugglers and discontents, not normally the kind of guys who have enough success to learn from.

Second, among those few who do have such success, there're still not likely to be representative of all men who do. The one conflating variable they all have in common is that they come HERE. This is not a normal place to come.

InfamousAd220 · 2023-09-27T05:08:26+00:00

I have slept with 30+ girls between my 19 to 22 yo and im more misogynist then ever

anthonyhceo · 2023-09-27T14:57:33+00:00

I was a Chad from 19 to 25. I had some longer term relationships but in-between relationships, I slept with 100+ ladies. A couple gf's I cheated on, others I didn't. I wasn't misogynistic, though I did become addicted to sex. Most of my friends had a tough time attracting gals, I did not. Why? my height (6'3"), looks, charm, and was athletic back then.

My perception of ladies did change though. They mostly all wanted the guy they couldn't have, the guy the others girls were gunning for. At 25, I met my now wife. We were opposites, she was career and success focused, I was not. She's 5'3" and thought I was too tall and too promiscuous but saw potential in me. She came from a good family, her Dad was very successful, her Engineer mom was a SAHM.

Now in our 40's, I have been monogamous our whole marriage, we have kids, a couple houses, I bought her an Escalade last year (paid in full from my business account). Though I'm old, I'm still just as able to attract good looking ladies, younger ones than me, and being successful has just widened my appeal. I choose to stay loyal, I love my wife and have a good life with her. Dating so many ladies helped me understand the value of the Diamond I found.

AntiHypergamist · 2023-09-28T00:06:14+00:00

I used to be an escortchad and I found out that sex sucks and doesn't feel anything like I thought it would

Big-Resident7811 · 2023-09-28T06:32:24+00:00

Women like to be ran through that’s all it taught me

bruhminer · 2023-09-28T11:29:43+00:00

Misogynism means fucking nothing these day, it's meaning has been twisted beyond recognition. If you simply point out how women are disproportionally attracted to certain traits in men you get called a misogynist for pointing how basic facts, nonsense garbage opinions.

Being with multiple girls after I looks maxxed confirmed the basics of what I already knew, personality/money/status doesn't matter, how you look and present yourself is the most important thing. They can't just "smell" sexists, racists, assholes, etc according to fried normies, they don't give a shit, you can get away with a million things as long as the girl finds you attractive, it literally does not matter. Does that make me a misogynist ? Don't care.

Title	How has sleeping with multiple women changed your views on relationships and gender dynamics?
Author	jzangolova
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Date	September 26, 2023 9:18 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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