Should MRAs acknowledge and call out a$$hole behaviour by other men and boys?

duhhhh · 2024-01-29T16:00:17+00:00

Depends how you mean calling it out.

Admitting there are some shitty people in the world, roughly half of them are men, pointing out bad behavior behind the scenes, and not associating with people after they demonstrate such behaviors? Absolutely!

Calling them out publicly like a John Wayne movie putting our reputations all the way up through lives on the line? Nope. Pull out your phone. Shoot video. Call police if necessary. Chivalry is for suckers.

Asatmaya · 2024-01-29T17:10:57+00:00

Do you expect feminists to call out bad behavior by women and girls? If so, then we have to do the same.

Speedy_KQ · 2024-01-29T18:04:25+00:00

There is usually no reason for recognizing bad behavior in others to be gendered. If somebody does something wrong, make it about them, and not their gender.

This whole "men should call out other men" narrative is trying to hold all men responsible for the actions of a few. If you must, say that problems with society may encourage particular negative behaviors.

Clockw0rk · 2024-01-29T19:28:40+00:00

The problem is that society, both men and women, readily condemns the actions of terrible men all the time. We send them to prison.

The PROBLEM, is that women by and large do NOT hold other women accountable for their actions. The evidence of this is that we often fail to even charge women with crimes, let alone sentence them equally to men.

My opinion? Not my circus, not my monkeys.

I'm responsible for my own actions, and I refuse to be held accountable for the crimes of others due to my blood or my sex.

Denounce all assholes, prosecute all criminals. It's the egalitarian thing to do.

Qantourisc · 2024-01-29T18:11:25+00:00

I don't care about the gender of someone being an ***, should we call them out sure.

Are we responsible to do so ? Not really, nobody is responsible for others (adult) people's behaviour.

shit-zen-giggles · 2024-01-29T20:22:25+00:00

hello fellow MRAs,

don't you agree we should adopt the feminist 'toxic masculinity' narative and give the desiding power about who may advocate for men's rights to feminists, ahm, I mean women.

Feminists will totally follow our example, don't ask how I know, but it's totally going to happen, I swear...

hifi3xx · 2024-01-29T18:45:24+00:00

Yes, the whole point of advocating for rights is to hold people accountable for poor behaviour, to make the world better. You are no better than the militant feminist who refuses to aknowledge the terrible ways women treat men. If you refuse to call out and hold men accountable for treating women poorly

peter_venture · 2024-01-29T19:59:44+00:00

Why is this question gendered? This implies that asshole behavior is more common in men and boys than women and girls, and this is absolutely not true. Plenty of women and girls are assholes.

If the question asked is if ALL people in society should call out asshole behavior by others then the answer is: it depends. Sometimes it can be dangerous to do so, so it's good to keep cognizant of the situation, and do so only if and when it's safe to do so.

hendrixski · 2024-01-29T18:02:39+00:00

Within reason, yes.

ArcturasMooCow · 2024-01-29T22:24:22+00:00

There is no pleasing of tyrannical women in Men's rights. Such virtue signaling is a tactic of appeasement. It serves no purpose and you won't find any feminists supporting men or their rights either way. Chivalry is dead. Let them fend for themselves.

IceCorrect · 2024-01-29T23:01:30+00:00

Why? This remind me of women who was harassed in metro and she doesn't blame the attacker, she blamed 2 guys who choose not risk their life's. It's not men job to control other men, because women themselves doesn't like to be controlled so why I should control other men?

Another problem with asshole behaviour is that it's subjective, so what you or other women think it's creepy/bad other women would find it flirty so why bother?

There is no point to treat women like children they don't like it, treat them like adult.

Cowboy71113 · 2024-01-30T16:49:39+00:00

I’m active in mra and this community. I’m somewhat moderate on most issues. That being said, I 100% call out toxic behaviors from all of my friends. I had a friend who I found out was cheating and I tore him a new one and he apologized. I had a friend who had poor taste in women and went through some messed up stuff, he started to hate women and drink a lot, I told him I preferred him sober and talked about my wife a lot until he realized good women do exist. I know I’m not the only man who does this with his friends, and the mra community as I’ve seen is receptive to debate

krackedy · 2024-01-29T15:54:47+00:00

Of course. I definitely do. Men aren't perfect. A lot of shitty people latch on to men's issues just as a way to whine about women.

Fuzzy_Department2799 · 2024-01-29T16:59:14+00:00

Absolutely. This is a gender neutral policy.

barkmagician · 2024-01-29T16:14:45+00:00

mra people are doing that already. especially against those toxic redpill stuff.

not to say that redpill is bad but the modern ones are extremely toxic. and they are filled with alpha-males who probably say "ew" when they touch a worm on a fishing hook.

redbluehandle · 2024-01-29T16:37:44+00:00

yes call it out.

WanabeInflatable · 2024-01-30T23:07:49+00:00

Actually, yes. It would be very useful to distance ourselves from openly misogynist men, sex traffickers, populists promoting tradwives and trad masculinity. Because, traditional male role in modern society is absolutely unfair towards men - it puts all the burden and responsibility on men while merely boosting ego and giving nothing in return.

Another thing. MRA often tell, that feminists should clearly distance from misandrists and antimale sexists. If we require them to be scrupulous and clean themselves from the scum among them - we should do so as well.

NCC-1701-1 · 2024-01-30T23:09:50+00:00

to get 'credit' from women? why bother, they wont care

Title	Should MRAs acknowledge and call out a$$hole behaviour by other men and boys?
Author	Automatic_Survey_307
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Comments	82
Date	January 29, 2024 3:50 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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