If you meet a woman and interact with her long enough for her to form an initial impression of you, and she feels no attraction for you, then THERE’S BASICALLY NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT!

lifefull7 · 2015-03-20T13:40:46+00:00

good advice bud. Hurts to read though

omarm1984 · 2015-03-20T12:26:18+00:00

I agree. For every person, there are certain personality types that arent attractive to them. Some guys, specially many in the community, think that they should be able to attract any girl once they becone good at this. Its just a unattainable goal. There are girls who simply will not like your personality type at all. And most of all you will not like theirs either. Even if you have great game it will be a short lived uphill battle. Not worth it. Learn the personality types that attract you the most and focus only on seducing those, because the good news is that those types are most likely to be attracted to you too and match with you.

bongtokent · 2015-03-20T15:50:28+00:00

I disagree. I've known this girl for 4 years now when we first met i was a nerd with no game. I professed the crush I had on her and immediately got friend zoned. We stopped hanging out for a while some time after that. Anyways now we go to the bar almost every night, and the other night she professed her crush on me. Then we had sex.

Edit: In case people want to know what I did to change her impression of me. I went to the bar with her a lot. I mingled with her friends. I fucked a few of her friends. Acted like I wanted nothing to do with her sexually. I'm convinced that's the only way you could ever change a girl's impression of you if she wasn't initially attracted.

Natrix03 · 2015-03-20T16:42:16+00:00

I don't know if this is true, or maybe I'm unusual as a person.

I'm a female, and I'm currently in the best relationship of my life. When I met my guy I was in a fwb with his friend (classy I know) and current bf admitted to his friend he liked me. Me and him talked about it but since I wasn't interested in anything serious at the time (and wasn't initially attracted to him) I just stated that I wanted to pursue / continue relations with fwb which was true. he simply stated that if that changed my mind I could talk to him, but he wouldn't bring it up again otherwise.

Months pass, me and current bf are friends. He always has time for me, doesn't take me out anywhere or buy me things but is my friend. Never acted un-gentleman-ly, he's never had a girlfriend before or anything hasn't slept with anyone for a year.

I don't know the more I got to know him the more I realized that if someone scooped him up I would lose one of the most amazing person in my life. He proved time and time again he was a good friend, and a good person over the months I knew him (unlike the fwb who was turning out less like a friend more like a guy that just liked to talk a lot)

I told the fwb that I potentially had feelings for current Bf. I eventually told current boyfriend and we got together.

He likes to laugh and joke around that he didn't have to do anything to get me, just was himself. I guess its true but himself happened to be an amazing friend and amazing person.

Like I said though, was no initial attraction. not bad looking but average. Kind of short guy (which for me at the time I thought only tall guys appealed to me) and he's losing his hair (bald spot receding) and a pasty grey complexion of a true nerd. His lack of relationship history terrified me initially but I don't regret it for a second.

I find him very attractive now, and I really respect who he is as a person.

oh and he was 27 i'm 23. he'd never had a girlfriend. He was actively trying online dating while we were friends and I was supportive until I realized how much I cared for him. Been going for 1 1/2 years .

Uphighoncloud9 · 2015-03-20T15:51:17+00:00

You guys are fucking pathetic. Forget about standards, forget about reading some douchebag's book... Just fucking be yourself and don't overthink things. If it's meant to be, then that's awesome... If it doesnt work out, move the fuck on with your life. This is the problem with being a male in today's society... Most of you guys are fucking pussies, giving all of your will and power to women just because they have a vagina that bleeds every month. They can sense your fear and insecurities from a mile away. Take that power back and be fucking alpha for once.

nowthengoodbad · 2015-03-20T15:30:51+00:00

David is only partially correct.

It is possible to disconnect from her for a while, come back, and attract her, even if you had been in the "friend zone".

I've done this on several occasions, the most recent being this past Christmas. I hadn't talked to her or seen her in ~5-6 years and I was visiting home for Christmas (across the country) for 2 days. The first day we hung out with some friends, the second day we had some of the most amazing sex I've ever had. There wasn't a room in her house I didn't have her in.

But I'm not going to try to convince you of the "correctness" of a seduction guru, you can keep believing there's no way out of the friendzone...

football1010 · 2015-03-20T19:41:18+00:00

Pull a wad of hundreds out and watch as she instantly becomes more attracted to you.

ChadPUA · 2015-03-21T19:00:35+00:00

This is such a stupid limiting belief.

2015-03-20T14:41:15+00:00

Fail fast or win big also has other applications.

2015-03-20T14:18:20+00:00

Good to remember

thenarrrowpath · 2015-03-20T16:02:01+00:00

Hypergamy really explains why most guys wont attract the majority of women they encounter.

Good-Hearted · 2015-03-20T18:05:45+00:00

There is but that envolves faking your enitre personality and thats well... shit. [Neil Starrus - The Game infesties]

shoezilla · 2015-03-20T18:08:00+00:00

Unless she's a hooker.

bilabrin · 2015-03-20T20:38:28+00:00

Wrong. You can absolutely turn that around BUT it probably is not worth the effort. An initial impression, while powerful, is just that. It can and in fact does change and, yes, with a little social proof and some effort you can change an initial impression and create attraction it's just an uphill battle. Uphill battles have been fought and won.

SmellyJelly22 · 2015-03-21T02:43:41+00:00

On one hand, this advice is technically incorrect. Sometimes you can get a girl to change her mind about you if you try hard enough and change enough.

On the other hand, this advice is GOLD. It's so fucking important. Part of the problem is that men's ego (and PUA teachers) don't want to admit that SOMETIMES SHE DOESN'T LIKE YOU. It's ok. Just find somebody else.

cascadecombo · 2015-03-21T05:03:57+00:00

You can do shit about it, you have to disappear for a while or break contact.

Just ignore her, and when you do happen to see them again, after you've become able to express what you want in a proper way. You can then seduce them.

It's the people who maintain contact and never allow any space to form that won't change their minds.

Chances are if you do that though, you'll find others anyway. So it's a win/win.

ClassyArgentinean · 2015-03-20T12:01:46+00:00

That's probably true, but still, if you really like the girl and you think you may fall in love with her, i'd say go for it anyways, keep trying, maybe she'll change her mind. If you just want to have sex with her, just move on, it's not worth the effort.

onetimeiwasahero · 2015-03-20T20:46:20+00:00

This whole subreddit is full of douchebaggery bullshit. Can hardly stop my eyes from rolling out of my head when I read this 19 year old fratboy garbage.

ssstar · 2015-03-20T17:31:16+00:00

u just leave and find another girl. at parties ill straight up walk away from a girl mid convo if i find shes not interested

JesperSB_com · 2015-03-20T08:14:22+00:00

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