Women really don’t understand they can’t have it both ways.

AwareMention · 2024-03-06T17:34:36+00:00

Reminds me of a post on the Alaska Airlines subreddit where a bunch of middle-aged women in the comments were claiming how they are ignored or"invisible" in the lounge (which is self-serve anyhow). I was like, welcome to life for a majority of people, plus service staff want tips, they don't care what your age or gender is.

itchske · 2024-03-06T17:33:26+00:00

It is amazing how careers are built on "the male gaze," without any thought to there ever being an end to it. It is almost as if intense adulation is owed in perpetuity.

OrangeBerry97 · 2024-03-06T19:48:31+00:00

Being banned from twoX is a minimum requirement to being a normal functioning person in society.

Uncle_Touchy1987 · 2024-03-06T17:21:36+00:00

Can you send a link? I’d like to read this.

IslandMist · 2024-03-06T18:10:01+00:00

TwoX downvote, delete and ban any idea which isn't within the confines of their echochamber. It's a safe space group for people who want respect but never want to be challenged, and thus creating a paradox for themselves in the real world.

MortimerWaffles · 2024-03-06T17:54:01+00:00

I work in nursing for decades and mostly work along side women. When they are in their 20's they get some much attention that they are annoyed by the flirting and the staring. Sure, they wear tight attractive clothes but they only want the hot guys to look. Then they hit their 30's or 40's and pop out a few kids, and put in 50 pounds then complain how no one is staring at them because they are older and some how it's men that are shallow.

plumberack · 2024-03-06T18:27:29+00:00

AWDTSG groups are exactly like this. They have the right to reject men that they don't desire but don't want men who they desire to exercise the same right on them. Hypocrites.

Sove131 · 2024-03-07T15:56:17+00:00

The thing is that these women lived their whole life with pretty privilege, so once they become normal and lose their privilege, then they can't comprehend what did change and blame it on men, patriarchy or whatsoever

nebbennebben · 2024-03-06T19:25:20+00:00

I got banned from there because I dared to point out that something someone was complaining about wasn't sexist but a small bug in the system and to not dox a company for something they probably had no control over.

Bunch of idiots who have no idea how anything actually works, please don't pay any attention to them unless it's to laugh at the stupidness.

eat_like_snake · 2024-03-06T17:51:54+00:00

Just immediately makes me think of how, ironically, the same women that bitch about their careers going to shit because of their age, are the FIRST to judge a guy for going bald and getting a dad bod in his 30s / 40s.
But, you know, the good ol "okay for me but not for thee."

Also maybe don't base your entire career around your sexuality with no backup options. Just a thought.

I don't care if chicks do that. That's their prerogative. And honestly, I find the obsession with youth kind of fucking creepy.
But just make sure you have something else lined up when the wrinkles start appearing.

betamaxxx1967 · 2024-03-06T17:56:06+00:00

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friendofoldman · 2024-03-07T13:50:35+00:00

I’m late 50’s and have a home in a 55+ community. I posted something in the community’s page on Facebook.

Some cougar(I asssume, as her account had grandkids pictures not hers) started commenting to me about how I look too young to own a home in the community! I looked like I’m in my 20’s.

I had to tell her that when I was 18 I looked 30, so I guess now that I’m in my 50’s I’m reversing.

Thought it was funny that she felt she had to comment on my appearence.

sakura_drop · 2024-03-06T18:06:39+00:00

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Smooth_Confusion · 2024-03-06T18:30:30+00:00

Link to the article. https://www.bingehulu.com/news/jane-seymour-talks-being-unseen-as-an-aging-woman/

It seems more of a "No one pays attention to be because I'm an older woman" rather than a "No one thinks I'm pretty anymore"

I think at a certain point you just age out of relavency regardless of age, continuing to do projects people give a shit about is more impactful than beauty as you age for the famous it seems.

Tayzey · 2024-03-08T03:32:03+00:00

We have success based on looks as well. But other factors are massive as well. Charisma/charm, social status, finances, strength when needed, emotions when needed.

Our standards are basically dont be fat, take care of yourself and love me and our family.

Womens standards in general have risen to ridiculous proportions that most men are now creeps for not fitting them.

I fit standards to a certain degree, young, fit, attractive, good job but I'm away at work 3/4 of the year because I have a well paying job. (Oil rig work)

The juice isn't worth the squeeze anymore. I'm not even upset, I just couldn't care less trying to date. It's a viper's den now and my limited free time is better spent with my friends and hobbies so I don't waste my youth on a doomed relationship.

Men aren't scared to date, or scared of women or incels or whatever the next label will be. We stopped caring

snopuppy · 2024-03-10T17:56:55+00:00

This reminds me of whats-her-face, the Arab porn actress. Now that she's quit porn, all she does is badmouth the industry that made her relevant at all. She's trying to get all of her videos removed all over the net.

Like, sure, make people aware of the bad side of the industry, but at the end of the day, YOU chose to do porn. No one raped you on camera, and you just went. "I guess this is my life now." No sane human being would do that.

The sad fact is that you lavished in the porn industry starved of actresses of your nationality, and now that you're out, you regret it. Despite the money, success, and recognition, she's telling people NOT to do porn. Excuse me? No one would even be listening to your ass if it wasn't for porn. Shut your ass up and sit your ass down.

SpamFriedMice · 2024-03-06T20:51:23+00:00

Ego and Entitlement

ButWhatOfGlen · 2024-03-06T21:31:13+00:00

They've "had it both ways" for generations. It'll take generations to disabuse them of that fantasy.

billbot · 2024-03-12T01:47:18+00:00

My wife complains to me about being "invisible" sometimes and every time I respond with "welcome to how most men are treated always".

Silent-is-Golden · 2024-03-06T19:50:59+00:00

Wtf is two x

UltraPromoman · 2024-03-07T07:58:25+00:00

The average woman is enabled at every turn. That's why they generally act the way they do. They're given passes, given preferential treatment regardless of merit, and people care about their feelings.

SulkTv999 · 2024-03-07T01:27:48+00:00

Exactly. Nuff said. They are the most privlege people to walk the face of the earth. They are sooooo used to privlege that they can't physically understand it when they are told no or when they face actual equality.

The female memebers in my family are like that in a sense and the female friends that i used to have would act like that a little bit.

All the girls at highschool definitely acted like that. Its sad. No due process for men.

Baboon_Stew · 2024-03-06T21:24:24+00:00

If you had posted that, you would definitely be banned from XX.

Bertje87 · 2024-03-07T13:06:08+00:00

You can see in the whole tone of that subreddit what may get you banned over there, i unsubscribed a couple days ago, just a bunch of miserable women

No-Technician-9339 · 2024-03-16T12:14:18+00:00

It's not like older actresses can't or don't go on to have great careers after getting older.

This kind of thing only seems to happen to women who have either based there acting career on just their looks (as the OP stated) or never really had much of any acting chops to begin with.

Rumiwasright · 2024-03-08T01:40:52+00:00

It is not that they do not understand. It is that they cannot understand. Their lack of self-awareness and self-reflection is a function of being female.

Unbearableyt · 2024-03-11T03:03:37+00:00

I think you've missunderstood the point of that type of post, lol

No-Paramedic7860 · 2024-03-07T00:07:50+00:00

Sounds like the OnlyFans conundrum. Better use that money to learn a skill!

valspare · 2024-03-09T00:33:22+00:00

I’m banned from twoX

A badge of honor my friend, wear it with pride.

That place is a mind suck. You're better off this way.

PotatoBeams · 2024-03-06T20:43:09+00:00

Getting older is different for everyone and we all face it differently.

Maybe you used to be a great tennis player but you've noticed that your upper limit has been physically limited as you age... Are you then asking to have it both ways by lamenting the loss of what you once had while continuing to play?

Consider Robert De Niro being digitally de-aged in the Irishmen. How is that different at its core? Isn't he trying to have it both ways? I didn't watch the movie but I saw the scene with him "kicking" someone. You can't add vigor and strength post edit.

The fact is that it is not "unfathomable that now that their looks are fading they aren't desired anymore." Actresses - like models - are aware that their "look" is part of their career

. I honestly don't understand what's so bewildering. Whatal has got you so pressed about it? Guys have been having mid life crises for a while now. Difference is a public persona is usually more in your face about because they're in the media.

TractorGeek · 2024-03-13T18:03:19+00:00

I was treated so, so much better by women when I was young and handsome. But, I prefer to be old and invisible.

LordOverBomber · 2024-03-18T23:39:37+00:00

some people always complain and say stupid shit.

anon12xyz · 2024-03-07T02:36:22+00:00

Carrie fisher was not about looks for her career and people still commented on her attractiveness 24/7. This is not comments only to people who “sell” their looks

Tmp_Guest_1 · 2024-03-13T12:57:24+00:00

is it really about looks alone? i doubt it.

first of all, we hear constantly stuff like "i dont want to be objectified", and than we have complaints from the same people that as you say, build their whole persona and carrer on looks and that people have an eye on them all the time.

but in the whole entertainment industrie its the following: new people with new ideas come around. there is so much stuff from 10 years ago or 20 years ago i dont listen too, i dont watch etc. doesnt matter how they look. but the old ones dont bring anything exciting and interesting to the table. why should i stick to some people because they are..... yeah because they exist....... i dont even know how to describe this.

fact is you cant swim all the time on top of the sea, no matter how good you are, no matter how relevant you once were. isnt it funny how all the people crying for quotes, will never ever give their position for another one the quote would give the job too. peple can be so obsessed ans selfish of themself, that they loose all grip on reality. you know what people i dont like? the complainers. there are so much older folks i like to see and hear, because they didnt build their career to be a superficial onetrickpony.

as an adult i simply dont care about celebrities. i dont give a single dime about them. doesnt matter the gender or age or whatever. if i want to be entertained, i can watch a film, listen to music and so on. and you know what? i care more about my friends and family than about an old fart crying that they dont get enough malegaze, because the competition is bigger and bigger. i can make my own music and spend rather quality time for doing sport myself, having a good time and education than what an entitled caren is yelling and whiping her tears with her millions she made.

and now ask what portion is paying most for this celebrities. you guess it, its teenagers, and maybe some nostalgia people. they have different views, different problems and different lives than what the two generations above them had. so tthe old folks dont get them, they cant pander anymore to their desires, dreams and so on. it happens to all of them. so a cooperation in the industry will throw in what brings most money. new people that are relatable and not nagging granny Pamela. imagine her having a furcoat and some stupid fake bossoms, going to young people and come of as a desirable woman. Just no, its creepy. its just creepy. that is what it is.

i can say, i know only about Pamela, because of her looks some decades ago. because she was pushed as sexsymbol. but otherwise, i have never seen a movie with her. not because i hate her or whatever, but because it simply never happened. is she a good actor? i dont know, but i dont care on top too. if your whole persona is build on looks alone, your acting cant be that good. otherwise people would praise you for your acting, and not her being a nagging deflated old leather bag with fake bodyparts.

L1Zs · 2024-03-07T00:02:11+00:00

You don’t think the actress had talent? There’s plenty of roles to be played by both middle aged and elderly women.

Produce_Strong · 2024-03-07T03:35:09+00:00

Incel whining

Title	Women really don’t understand they can’t have it both ways.
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Date	March 6, 2024 5:10 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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