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What causes men to lean more conservative while women liberal?

Specialist-2332

April 14, 2024
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Title What causes men to lean more conservative while women liberal?
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Specialist-2332

Upvotes 65
Comments 55
Date April 14, 2024 4:30 AM UTC
(2 years ago)
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[–]StopManaCheating 87 points88 points89 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men hate the ideology that’s abandoning them?

This is not difficult to figure out.

[–]SpamFriedMice 111 points112 points113 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh, IDK. Maybe people just naturally recoil from people who baselessly villainize them?

[–]redditburgero 10 points11 points12 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

All men are criminals until proven guilty.

[–]actioncr0w 28 points29 points30 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The left hate men and many of the prominent leftists openly express misandrist opinions and propaganda. That is not that hard to understand “why”

[–]DrewYetti 60 points61 points62 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Perhaps Men value freedom while women value security.

[–]PhantomBlack675 17 points18 points19 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Those who willingly sacrifice their freedom for security are deserving of neither." - Benjamin Franklin

[–]heeroena 19 points20 points21 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you promise one sex free shit (abortions, student bailout)...

[–]Crab12345677 14 points15 points16 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Common sense thinking vs emotional thinking.

[–]Gpda0074 30 points31 points32 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Liberals promise things that feel good but don't work that well in practice. Women are emotional and care more about the feels than effectiveness. Men care more about results and problem solving, regardless of feelings. Also, the left has claimed every man is a potential rapist and abuser for decades and accuses men of being toxic simply for doing masculine things. That tends to drive people away from you.

[–]PhantomBlack675 9 points10 points11 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But if you say every woman is a potential false accuser or baby trapper, that's misogyny.

[–]FreonKennedy 7 points8 points9 points 2 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I feel it is because conservative values don’t let women get away with nonsense and incriminate or destroy men just because they have a vagina. Liberal values can basically create more “victims” with a victim complex that can incriminate men for even more insane reasons than what we already deal with. It assures them it is okay to do that and they are always in the right just because they are a broken human being.

[–]Lonewolf_087 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think so and I also think conservative viewpoints hold people accountable for their actions in general which is a hard pill to swallow for anyone who makes poor choices in life. Most men we want the news straight doesn’t matter if it’s good bad or ugly. We don’t like filters.

[–]FreonKennedy 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

For sure.

[–]PhantomBlack675 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lot of conservatives support lower sentencing for women, especially mothers. Both conservatives and liberals are gynocentric, men are simply means to facilitating better lives for women (and maybe children), but do not care for men themselves.

[–]Geselshaft 43 points44 points45 points 2 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Leftists hate men, so it’s hardly surprising that the right, which also doesn’t care about them but at least pretends to is going to be the better option.

Feminists prefer authoritarian totalitarian regimes, because they fear freedom in lieu of safety, so are more than happy to give up all power to authority.

Feminists create the patriarchy because of this endless fear and viewing humans are collectives to be exploited.

So naturally that favors the left.

[+]CoolYak1774 -6 points-5 points-4 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

[+]CoolYak1774 -7 points-6 points-5 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The entire system does not actually care about any of us, btw. Welcome, the rest of us have been here for several millenia, so excuse the mess.

[–]aj2467 29 points30 points31 points 2 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Woman are emotional men are logical.
Left is all about emotions Right thinks logically Weak men are emotional Men might be waking up and thinking logically

[–]PhantomBlack675 -4 points-3 points-2 points 2 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

If men are logical, why does feminism exist?

[–]aj2467 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I am not to sure what men being logical and feminism have in common. Please rephrase your question.

[–]PhantomBlack675 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Feminism wouldn't survive unless there are men backing it. And feminism is based on a logical fallacy.

[–]aj2467 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes weak men are emotional. Feminism is not logical at all. It is an emotional thought process. Cherry picked rights. Men can do it so I want to do it too !!! Just as a toddler would act. Weak pussy beggars go along with it. There is no logic in saying men and women are equal. Men and women are different. Different is not equal to.

[–]what_am_i_acc_doing 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because consumerism and marketing exist

[–]Black-Patrick 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Neuroticism and trait agreeableness

[–]QuantumHalyard 7 points8 points9 points 2 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If that data can be trusted then it’s very apparent the issues with the political system are contributing directly to sex inequality socially as well as economically

[–]bakersma 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes, IMHO that's a very good {accurate, perceptive, helpful} insight. 🎯

[–]QuantumHalyard 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A bit obvious I know, perhaps I ought to elaborate on what I mean but I’m a little busy and I’m sure people have better things to do than read a paragraph from someone who isn’t overly well versed on these matters

[–]serravee 9 points10 points11 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Brains

[–]Gevlyn507 6 points7 points8 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Common sense, if I had to take a guess

[–]bakersma 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In the case of men, I would tend to agree with you. In the case of women, hmmmmm then 'not so much'.

[–]djc_tech 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Most men are libertarian and conservative. They want to work and be left alone to enjoy the fruits of their labors. Typically it has been men who have invested in society, built society and maintain it. They work the hard jobs that require them to sacrifice their bodies to build, maintain and protect. Naturally, most men feel they should have a say in how it’s run. Feminism takes the fruits of that labor and claims its men Hindu g them back, after they enjoy the stability and security men have built. Men lean conservative cause typically they’re the ones who have invested blood and sweat equity.

[–]Lonewolf_087 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think there is a big split like anything between left and right I’m just right of center. I’m not on the Trump bandwagon at all but I’m not satisfied with Biden either.

[–]crc8983 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The liberal way of thinking is based on emotions not ligic.

[–]GrannysPartyMerkin 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men are less insulated from the real world and consequences

[–]Empyre51789 14 points15 points16 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Logical vs emotional thinking typically

[–]sea666kitty 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly

[–]CordCarillo 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think what a lot of people are calling conservatism in many men leans more towards the libertarianism ideology of "I just want to be left alone in peace."

I vote conservative, but I consider myself a conservative Libertarian.

As long as what I'm doing makes me happy and has no direct adverse impact on you; I expect you to shut up about it and let me be happy.

People are free to walk away if they don't agree, but creating an entire movement based on your feelings only says that you're unsure about your position and need the validation of a hive mind in order to remain delusional - which is feminism and liberalism in a nutshell.

[–]corporate_robot_dude 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When you're younger and a have not, I found myself being more left leaning. Then as I started making money and having assets I started to realize what it meant to have to work and struggle for the things you have, and to be careful with handing things out to people. But ultimately, it's how foolish the left behaves that makes me want to become more conservative and traditional.

[–]sea666kitty 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men use logic. Women use feelings

[–]HereForaRefund 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think women see the world more idealistically, while men see the world more logistically.

MOST women will say "X should be free" and then vote for it. Meanwhile men will be more likely to say "Whoa, whoa, whoa! Where is the money from this gonna come from? Because none of this is really free!". And that's where the gap comes.

It's girl math at it's finest!

[–]MannerNo7000 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Men should care about economic inequality as poorer working class men lose out from wealthy tax cuts

[–]duhhhh 14 points15 points16 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The mainstream parties on the left should care about economic inequality more than demonizing men. They did a few decades ago.

[–]discodawg021 point 2 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Women think with emotions, unable to separate logic from emotion. Women will vote for their own demise

[–]conspirized1 point 2 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Men are largely expected to care for themselves and their families by themselves. Being that breadwinner status is the "norm" for men. They're going to want to keep their money, as they've earned it and the system they're paying into likely isn't doing much for them beyond giving them a road to drive on.

It is not abnormal, on the other hand, for a woman to spend her entire life without having to deal with an iota of personal responsibility or accountability. In fact, when they do people rush to tell them why things aren't their fault, and they have instead been victimized. As such, they grow to favor building up collective support because they're expected and encouraged to benefit from it, thus that's the environment that they're used to and support.

[–]CoolYak1774 -1 points0 points1 point 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think men see themselves as having more to lose from the world being more aligned with liberal values, while women have more to lose from the world being more aligned with conservative values.

[–]Sininenn 9 points10 points11 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"men see themselves as having more to lose" "women have more to lose"

You need to be better at masking your double standards if you want to pretend to care about men

[–]jamrev 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Liberalism is a mental disorder. Nuff said?

[–]Content-Load6595 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"The social delimma" does a good job of explainig why and how our sociteties are getting more and more polorized.

[–]NeoNotNeo 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

People who work and are responsible for their lives feel the need to conserve what they’ve earned

People who have to be responsible are liberal with other people’s resources

Hope that helps.

[–]Specialist-2332 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]No_Assumption_5864 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men tend to use more logic while women emotions

[–]Specialist-2332 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm included to believe that progressive vs conservative isn't necessarily a single spectrum, but rather a large set of radios.

A radical feminist is progressive on women's issues, capitalism, and BLM, but could be conservative on transsexuality, immigrants, and men's issues.

We'd have to look at the broad set of radios' structure and analyze the tendency here: seeing that on the broad scale men lean more conservative on more issues than women do, we could very much see a gender split.

[–]bakersma 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Are we still allowed by the DEI Police 🚨 to use the word ”broad”? No doubt the Reddit algorithm has just now startef some alarm bells ringing somewhere. Yes, it's my day to be cynical. 😃 Thanks.

[–]CoolYak1774 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What do you mean by "radios"?

[–]BatDad83 -2 points-1 points0 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The right has become the biggest snowflakes and put more stock in their feelings than actual facts.

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