Owen Cook vs Todd Valentine

riordanajs · 2024-05-01T09:18:24+00:00

They're both og RSD artists from the Project Hollywood days, so you probably can't go wrong with either. There's a lot of bad press about that group of guys, but most of it is clickbait/ragebait sensationalist yellow page garbage. Both of these guys are REALLY good, comparing them as pick up artists is like comparing Kobe and LeBron in basketball, that level good. Either of them can teach you to be good, so pick the one who resonates with you. I'm partial to hotseat at home as it's worked for me. Remember though, that you have to go in the field, regularly and consistently to get any results.

Also, be aware as well that Owen and Todd are just human beings who got good in one thing. If you're a pussy-starved guy they might seem cool, but the halo effect will wear off in time.

Reality of the whole "pick up thing" is that when you dive a bit deeper in this rabbit hole you will get jaded about human nature through the sheer amount of degeneracy, cheating, lies and rationalisations you see. To get better you need to also find your asshole side and get it active, at which point, if you have a conscience, you will become disgusted with your self, as well. If you're half way decent, you'll also crawl back up from the hole you've dug yourself in, this is where spirituality comes in. Still, it's a great ride and I recommend it to you as a young man, as psychology and relationship economics of meeting women is a basic thing you should understand.

burncushlikewood · 2024-05-01T07:46:19+00:00

Todd for sure, Todd is actually really smart but more importantly good infield, I've seen Owen in action his game isnt great lol, he has some body language issues, Todd understands things quite well but I do believe he can be sometimes too concerned with smaller details, and some of his approaches some women seem kind of cold towards him, maybe he's got a bad reputation with fame, or these girls think that he's just capitalizing on easy women, and has a volume of hook ups player type, I know of some other much more competent puas that will actually improve your game and are low budget

Spirited_Cheetah6748 · 2024-05-01T09:31:58+00:00

Get both lol, they are both on torrents

Send me a message. No, I won't ask for money

poly_nerdy_panda · 2024-05-01T20:29:04+00:00

Neither get on a phone call from John Anthony he is the only legit guy in the space.. alex playing with fire is cool too sad they broke up

Eros_Abundance · 2024-05-02T09:56:52+00:00

I lost my virginity after hotseat at home, it has probably more than 10 hours of infields and that’s what made me click .

It’s more about abstract concepts than do this, do that type of program but it works with my personality.

If you are more on the intuitive spectrum it might change your life and your whole perspective on game, if you are more on the sensitive it might sound like a lot of fumbling and bs ngl

norwegiandoggo · 2024-05-01T06:16:18+00:00

Owen Cook is a moronic douchebag. Don't get any of his shit. He has completely lost his mind. He's the "crystal healer" of self help. He has also bragged about raping a stripper, and his "seduction protegees" working for his company have been accused of harassment and even banned from countries for teaching choking women as a "seduction technique".

jiva_maya · 2024-05-01T11:06:13+00:00

Owen has gone off the deep end in recent years but him and his crew are the best regarding anything in this topic. Todd was just another guy in RSD (Owen's crew) and they had a falling out...did not seem to be over anything substantive. I'd pirate a copy of "The Blueprint" to start

Holiday_Treacle6350 · 2024-05-01T17:48:26+00:00

Show me one good infield of Todd V, I don't know how y'all rate him so high. Owen all the way

TRTGymBro1 · 2024-05-01T10:17:40+00:00

I can't believe these drifters still make money off of suckers .

Wing_Inevitable · 2024-05-01T13:53:39+00:00

For your question torrent them .

One is a abstract concept thing (energy and all that stuff ) - Hot seat at home

The other is a logical guide (The system )

Personality opinions aside - I think nighter Todd or Taylor have particularly good game . But maybe they teach better than they game . But if I have to guess from their students NO .

poly_nerdy_panda · 2024-05-01T20:26:14+00:00

Owen cook is gay and admits it several times on camera, I been out with Owen for 1 week his game is dog poop and gets destroyed all night. Tood V stuff is way to over complex and tells you so many condrictory things so you buy more programs from him.

mikejohns1987 · 2024-05-01T11:20:15+00:00

Owen Cook is the OG with Niall Strous and Mystery. Todd Valentine is great but is tall and good looking. That does a lot of the heavy lifting for you. Owen has none of those qualities (short, somewhat overweight and balding). So it depends on you and if you're average-attractive but just need that confidence boost and tips then maybe Todd but if you're less than average and have that uphill battle then Owen really has mastered that chat to attract women socially way out of his league (traditionally speaking).

Title	Owen Cook vs Todd Valentine
Author	ClientSad1987
Upvotes	5
Comments	45
Date	May 1, 2024 5:48 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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