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Did anyone get an archive of the comics situation?

Jaffacakes-and-Jesus · 2024-07-13T11:01:30+00:00

Afraid to try has deleted stuff which is entirely his right, but it would be great to have a record because it's such a great demonstration of some of...

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July 13, 2024

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Title	Did anyone get an archive of the comics situation?
Author	Jaffacakes-and-Jesus
Upvotes	55
Comments	22
Date	July 13, 2024 11:01 AM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/1e27rqv/did_anyone_get_an_archive_of_the_comics_situation/
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[–]Professional-You2968[🍰] 7 points8 points9 points 2 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

[–]Jaffacakes-and-Jesus[S] 65 points66 points67 points 2 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Someone posted a comic on r/comics showing a woman being sexually harassed and the snapping at a man who paid her an honest and innocent compliment. The man is then drawn posting a "modern women are so mean" comment on line and the woman says that there's a reason why women are so defensive. Pretty clearly stating that women have a right to mistreat innocent men because of the actions of guilty men. In response the Redditter I mentioned posted a comic explaining that he had a been raped by both a group of women as a child and as an adult by a female friend. He had also been treated like a creep by women (especially frustrating given that he's gay) and when he called a rape crisis line was transferred to the line for repentant rapists. R/comics then prevented him from replying to comments for some reason. The post has now been deleted. It's very frustrating because I think it perfectly encapsulates some of the dynamics between feminist framing of sexual aggression and the effect it unintentionally has on male victims.

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“if I were that guy, I’d just look for another girl and not worry about this person’s reaction because I’m not the problem, nor the one at fault.”

While this IS a reasonable reaction, it shouldn't be painted as the ONLY reasonable reaction.

Let's replace one genetic trait, and it's accompanying negative stereotype in the comic with another genetic trait that is commonly discriminated against.

A woman shows she is the target of several thefts or attempted thefts by African Americans.

An African American walks up to her and says "Hello"

She responds with "FUCK YOU, LEAVE ME ALONE!", while clutching her purse tightly to prevent it from being grabbed.

Would the last person who approached her be reasonable in thinking she's a racist? Probably. I mean, sure they wouldn't know if she was only that way to African Americans, but it's a pretty safe bet.

Would it be reasonable for them to not act on it and go about their day? Sure. Would it be reasonable to use this as an example of racism and talk about it? Sure!

I looked at it, and the two scenerios posted are very similar in my eyes. A person keeps having negative interactions with people who share a genetic attribute. The person then is approached by someone with said attribute who does not have negative intentions, and said person is then treated hostilely over it. Said person then feels discriminated against for something that is not their choice, and complains online about said discrimination.

[–]JJnanajuana -1 points0 points1 point 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean thats kinda the conclusion we are meant to draw isnt it? That and that her reaction is reasonable.

We follow one character since childhood seeing every incodent that gets her to put her guard up and feel defensive. When she snaps at an innocent guy we can understand why. (this is good empathy building and would be a nice explanation for guys who've been that inocent guy but) then we switch pov and follow the guy as he complains online about it.

We don't get to follow him for a bit, we are left with the impression that he 'snapped' from the single incident we see, while she 'snapped' from the cumulative ones we see.

But he could have a very sympathetic backstory, we could have followed him for a while, seen him get rejected over and over again, seen as he asked for advice on how to ask a girl out without seeming like a creeep, fuck we could go real far and show his journey from childhood, see the first time he's treated as a threat rather than a child, maybe his was kicked into fostetcare because 'boys' 14 and up 'look too much like men' and can't stay in the dv shelter with their mum.

Or maybe hes a jerk. Maybe this was his first try being 'nice' to a girl, and it failed and hes throwing it all away.

But really he's niether of these things, really he's fictional, he exists for 2 pannels to bounce off the main character and make a point.

Hopefully hes not a reflection of real people, otherwise the 'only existing to bounce off the main character' theme would be disturbing. (in a commic thats normal though)