When a guy tell you to “fuck off”

seduction-ModTeam · 2024-08-17T14:57:34+00:00

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emirsolinno · 2024-08-17T01:37:11+00:00

It happens, will happen again. Live with it :D

nordik1 · 2024-08-17T01:28:06+00:00

Don’t let one random weirdo move you off center. It’s quite literally 1 in billions. Move onto the next

ReactionAble7945 · 2024-08-17T02:06:23+00:00

Two thoughts

1. He is a random idiot, continue on.

2. He thinks she wants you to leave and he is coming over to rescue her. So, you need to look at her and say, "Do you want me to leave?" If she says, Fuck Off/Leave..... Then leave. You are putting out the energy as a creep. (Not saying you are a creep, but if she isn't into it and you are not reading it....)

TRTJimBro1 · 2024-08-17T01:43:37+00:00

Literally all your posts are a variation of this theme. This can’t be happening to you all the fucking time. Stop making shit up, drop the act and be real with us for once.

shotta511 · 2024-08-17T06:31:19+00:00

listen to me, a man who ended up in hospital having two surgeries for "fighting for a woman".
Just leave.
No woman at a bar/club is worth your physical health. Nobody knows what happens, but a hit with a bottle to your face will end badly.

If it isnt your girlfiend/wife who is threathned, there is no need to fight, never.

southparkslope · 2024-08-17T01:49:37+00:00

It’s ok. You’ll be ok. His reaction to you has nothing to do with you.

Mysterious_Pickle_78 · 2024-08-17T01:51:53+00:00

do some MMA/ go to gym and look intimidating and they will fuck off.

Spiritual-Smoke-9498 · 2024-08-17T05:04:37+00:00

It happened because you didn’t have your eyes “open” and wasn’t “listening”.

Fuck off is the ultimate. I’ve never, ever seen in my life someone use that as their first rejection line in a “normal” setting. It’s just never gonna be that, unless some weird dark social experiment or whatever.

So what it actually says is that you pushed too far. I guarantee you that they told you to go away in a lot of different fashion before telling you to fuck off. Maybe one person was looking away uninterested in you, or were changing the subject, or turning their bodies slightly off angle. People naturally tend to be “nice” and subtle about it. Whatever it is, you were not wanted, and you stayed as if you are, on top of that in a state of despair, which usually makes things be even more unsuccessful. People sense it, and they do not like it, at all.

Also, the guy probably noticed that you were not there to talk as you pretend to us and them that you were there to talk, you were hunting for the girl, girl which you didn’t knew if she was interested or not, but either ways, she did not go put of her way to pull you in, she did not tell her brother that it was ok for you to be there and he could calm down a little.

In essence, she also didn’t wanted you there, and let her brother do the dirty job.

As far I’m concerned you were the retard. Not in the sense that going to talk to people, but that you were Not wanted and kept on drilling in out of desperation. And also you were not honest, you didn’t scoop in and said you wanted the girl, not you came in and chatted like you were there to chat.

You have to look at yourself, initiating on a lot of people implies that you will be rejected at some point, and you being triggered this much by this story speaks of one of your caregiver initially rejecting you in some way, in covert ones most probably, but the truth always comes out so child you felt unwanted and rejected by their parents.

So work on your honesty, sink in to the desperation until you can move on to a better state of being so you don’t pull everybody down by your mere presence, and most importantly, go towards the people that are looking to meet people. That’s just life.

I promise you, if you walk away when someone gives you a cold line, or a closed off body language, or a subtle whatever that you are not wanted; nobody would tell you to fuck off.

At the deeper level of analysis, you came in there believing it was not gonna work, truth is it was uncertain, maybe people you approach wants you, maybe they don’t.

You were feeling hopeless, powerless. You went in there thinking it wasn’t gonna work but you did it anyway, and In that state, thoughts are very grabby, they make you believe that what you believe is true, so you can step way back, distract yourself with something else or simply sink in to the despair.

It’s like a Chinese fingertrap or quicksands, the harder you try, the deeper you go. The more you get stuck. And the more stuck you are, there is one guarantee, and that it’s going to be painful. There is nobody to blame, anyone in your shoes would feel despair, you try and try again, and it doesn’t work; so you start to think it never will, but then again that’s your mind trying to convince that is true, but it’s not true, but in that moment it encourages it to become true.

So you had a split within yourself, you had one level thinking wtf imma doing here, the other omg I’m so doomed, the other I really want this girl and wouldn’t you know she’s gonna be another one rejecting me, and the other what can I say so they think I’m a valuable and good person so that I can get what I want, or whatever other manipulation you had in mind. See how complex this is becoming, and where you are being stirred all kinds of way, and it makes it difficult to even have a conversation with you there because you’re desperately trying to get what you want, while pretending you’re not.

As terrible as this is, and it is, you are already better off saying the undisclosed truth about you, hey guys I want the girl I’m lonely I don’t think its gonna work but I can stay there and talk a little too. At least you’re being honest, and you have a stand point for them to talk about, it doesn’t mean they will accept you at all, but it’s better for you and it’s better for them, and you have a chance that they respond honestly too, like hey yeah you can stay here and talk a lil, or we would rather not have you there we had fun plans…. But if you said that to everyone, for sure someone would take pity or just want time help you along, or even wanted you there, but your veil of lies is not helping; and all that requires a great deal of courage because you have to be extremely vulnerable and willing to be seen as bad and unwanted.

Also, you want to be allowing everything that’s happening, sink into the pain of it all, find out how it could be worth it, so let’s say that she was guarantee to not sleep with you, and the guys were guaranteed to push you away, what and how would you be to make that experience worth it?

MrPallindrome · 2024-08-17T07:09:04+00:00

Brother you have GAME. the other peacocks are just insecure around you.

go do your thing

marsnasty · 2024-08-17T02:39:07+00:00

She probably told him you were “creepy.” Whatever, life goes on.

MrDownhillRacer · 2024-08-17T04:59:18+00:00

There weird. Like, I don't guard my sisters, because they're smart intelligent people whom I trust to be able to make good choices for themselves. I trust their judgement, so if I see them talking to a guy, that's enough for me to be satisfied that the guy is all right. Dudes who mate guard their family members give me creepy incestuous vibes. Like, why are they spending so much time thinking about who's getting into their sibling's pants? Gross.

Xero_Darknezz · 2024-08-17T06:33:18+00:00

All you have to do is ignore them and shoot your shot. Don't compare yourself to anyone else. That guy who came up to you is insecure, and all you have to do is calmly ask the girl if what he is saying is true. If it doesn't go well, move on to the next one. Another option is to do day time game instead and you won't have to deal with competition as much.

Alex__An · 2024-08-17T09:14:45+00:00

Europe is not a culture, it's a hundred different ones. Which country did you visit?

We have countries in Europe that don't belong in the western world bubble and indeed that behavior, although insecure weird and sexist, is a normal phenomenon

Western-Month-3877 · 2024-08-17T01:52:30+00:00

You arrived today but now you’re home.

1975ChevyC20 · 2024-08-17T04:44:33+00:00

Happened to me, it did too

Yoh6820 · 2024-08-17T06:42:07+00:00

Normal brother reaction

Obvious_Cap_6983 · 2024-08-17T06:52:22+00:00

Called don’t be a bitch and smack him one.

norwegiandoggo · 2024-08-17T07:18:40+00:00

Alcohol makes a certain percentage of people extremely aggressive and wanting to fight. Not to mention that some of these dudes are also on steroids which makes them even more aggressive

It's usually best to just bow out of the situation and not take it personally. It's not worth getting into a fist fight over some girl.

It's probably a good idea to leave the venue too and go somewhere else. It's not fun having to look over your shoulder wondering where that pyscho is or if he will suddenly punch you in the face for no reason

DonaldyPutin · 2024-08-17T08:32:50+00:00

If it was just a casual convo then why post it in seduction sub rather than a social one

thisisnahamed · 2024-08-17T09:18:32+00:00

You will get these once in a while in your seduction journey. Don't make it a big deal. Just move on.

Fantastic-Life-2024 · 2024-08-17T09:37:42+00:00

I almost got killed in a toilet in Prague. They thought I was from a rival gang. Two guys taller than me (I'm 6'5) followed me to the toilet. Eastern Europe is actually a shady dangerous place if you don't watch yourself and where you go.

This is the problem with young people today they have to tell the world every experience instead of just getting the head up and just going about business as usual.

Back home now I feel disappointed, anger, defeated 😞

What ??? You're a man this fcking life. Life is hard get a helmet.

loganstark962 · 2024-08-17T09:51:34+00:00

You missed the opportunity to tell him this "Is she good in bed" /s

bob88c · 2024-08-17T12:09:19+00:00

Way to fucking go!!! Don’t give up, you are brave to do this trip! Have fun and fuck the Russian!

Rollorich · 2024-08-17T12:28:45+00:00

I'm not saying this is you, but some guys are creepy and don't get the message that they're not welcome to hang about. I've had female friends kiss me in front of creepy dudes and then introduce me as their boyfriend just so the guy would move on.

RidiculousKing19 · 2024-08-17T12:53:29+00:00

survive

Kylearean · 2024-08-17T14:43:14+00:00

Brother recognized game, and shut you down. Keep moving.

sumimigaquatchi · 2024-08-17T01:37:05+00:00

I don’t know if night game is the right option as a beginner.

sumimigaquatchi · 2024-08-17T01:30:55+00:00

For me this is the first time going out

UnwardedBush · 2024-08-17T03:50:32+00:00

Get money and get ripped and they wont have balls to do that again. I've always thought that the point of going to the gym is to command respect from other males, not so much to look attractive. The highest victory is defeating the enemy without even fighting.

Title	When a guy tell you to “fuck off”
Author	sumimigaquatchi
Upvotes	71
Comments	57
Date	August 17, 2024 1:27 AM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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Comments

1. He is a random idiot, continue on.