is making your partner pay for (almost) everything, feminism?

NYD3030 · 2024-08-28T02:48:09+00:00

Really came full circle on this one didn’t they.

I actually think a lot of old ideas are going to come back in a mutated, pro-woman form. For example as far as I can tell in most cases polyamory is just polygamy for women.

rammo123 · 2024-08-28T02:54:25+00:00

The sound of bagpipes in that sub is deafening.

henrysmyagent · 2024-08-28T03:07:12+00:00

Expecting men to pay for everything is absolutely considered feminism by most women today, but it is actually benign misogyny.

The most feminist thing a man can do for women today is to pay for nothing.

No free drinks. No free dinners. No free handbags, shoes, fingernails, hair extensions, etc. No free vacations.

Women are intelligent, responsible, independent, and autonomous beings who do not need protection and/or provisioning from men.

Total_Connection4436 · 2024-08-28T04:09:55+00:00

Jeez, some of the comments in that thread. One of them says that men should pay because the man earns more citing the example of a tech bro dating a waitress. I tend to agree that the partner making significantly more should pay for more stuff, but what's wrong with the reverse case where the woman earns more? Do the same rules apply?

Even the most progressive and (self-proclaimed) egalitarian women can't even conceive of the idea of a high wage earning woman wanting to date a lower status man. It's not that they have a preference for more professionally successful men or won't date a lower status man. It's that the entire idea of such a thing even happening at all or anybody wanting to do that is a completely alien concept.

This totally tracks with feminism because in order to believe in patriarchy theory, you have to ignore the existence of a large swath of the male population. If the only men you see are tech and finance bros and doctors and CEOs, then naturally your confirmation bias will lead you o believe in patriarchy.

She doesn't use the example of a high earning woman dating a waiter because in her mind he's not even really a man or somebody worthy of consideration. The waiter is an asexual background character. Service industry workers, men in other non-glamourous lines of work, racial minorities, disabled men, homeless men, etc. are completely invisible to them. If you acknowledge them, you have to reconsider the core principles of feminism.

Socalgardenerinneed · 2024-08-28T03:27:08+00:00

I feel like the OP as well as most of the comments were pretty reasonable. They're basically like this idea is dumb and its being talked about because of tiktok which is a dumb platform.

Seems pretty down-to-earth to me.

country2poplarbeef · 2024-08-28T03:05:06+00:00

I always love the obsession Feminism seems to have with Wicca and the surprise they have when it gets "twisted" into toxic bs. Who would've ever thought a cult started by an old white guy with a bunch of women following him would be toxic and objectifying of women. It's not like "Wicca" literally means male witch or that a lot of these early covens were just a bunch of "witches" worshipping some male guru. 😅

The-Minmus-Derp · 2024-08-28T03:40:16+00:00

The top comment on that sub is literally talking about how that idea is obvious rage bait horseshit. I think they got this one

JustTheSpecsPlease · 2024-08-28T04:00:34+00:00

Well, what if your partner is a woman?

Sure-Vermicelli4369 · 2024-08-28T04:21:53+00:00

If you look at threads in that sub asking the mask-off version of this, is it acceptable feminism to want to be a traditional-style wife, you'll be met with feminists reminding you that feminism is about a woman's right to choose.

So in other words, expecting men to pay for things is feminism because anything a woman wants or that makes a woman happy is feminism.

YetAgain67 · 2024-08-28T03:24:19+00:00

"Is reinforcing traditional and retrograde gender roles feminism?"

Title	is making your partner pay for (almost) everything, feminism?
Author	dajodge
Upvotes	7
Comments	21
Date	August 28, 2024 2:43 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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