Models has nothing new, is it about frame?

Dwerg1 · 2024-10-14T07:27:13+00:00

So, I started reading about seduction back in 2013, looking at material older than that, the new material of the time and seeing a bit of the newer stuff through the years.

What fundamentally works doesn't change, it's all just the same message in a different wrapping.

postbody · 2024-10-14T07:56:27+00:00

Quit being a bookworm and go out as much as you can

epimpstyle · 2024-10-14T15:09:46+00:00

Yes, there is nothing new under the sun, it is the concept of the inner game explained in the book, but it is possible to say the same thing in just a few sentences.

HarpertFredje · 2024-10-14T21:33:56+00:00

If you are pretending the women you like need to conquer you, you're missing the point of the book. The point is to start seeing yourself as a valuable person that doesn't need the approval of others, without being narcissistic (which is just a veneer to hide low self esteem). If you value yourself why would you need to pretend? It needs to be genuine.

pitterpatter-96 · 2024-10-15T08:43:47+00:00

You read 30 pages and are complaining about missing the point of the book?

It’s about developing inner game. How to be vulnerable. How to build an attractive lifestyle through hygiene, hobbies, and self worth?

Models spits the hard truth. You gotta dig deep to get it.

HomelessMilkman · 2024-10-14T10:34:29+00:00

I've never read it but considering the state of a lot of advice I see on here, I would ignore it.

For whatever reason, people don't understand that 'the self is always shining through'. You can hear everything you need to know through five seconds of opening our mouth. Your voice is either stifled, restricted, tense or it's deep, resontant, punchy, unrestricted, etc. It's an 'honest' and accurate representation of how you feel about yourself and the situation. Do you sound like you could be a leader or do you sound like you could barely get someone to pay attention to you? Conversation techniques? Your cards are already out on the table.

Whether you like it or not, you're 'sub-communicating' exactly where you're at. The validity to 'seduction techniques' are things that actually make you more comfortable with yourself; 'frame control' does that, it shows that you can just 'be yourself' and influence people to 'buy into' what you're presenting. 'Frame control' shows that you don't have to micromanage the way you're coming across which tangibly causes you deal with situations with 'higher self-esteem'.

The whole point is to 'be better', not use different criteria to judge and hate on yourself. None of that helps you to not be needy; it's not 'trauma release', it's 'mental masturbation'. Again, I could be wrong, I've not read it but then again people preach '100 IOI's to look out for' and not 'how to feel good about yourself and not need validation'; it's not 'building self-esteem', it's just low self-esteem in a different form.

MO_drps_knwldg · 2024-10-14T11:25:02+00:00

Would recommend my book The Foundation: A Blueprint for Becoming an Authentically Attractive Man.

I wrote it for the reasons you mentioned about Models. It contains more actionable advice to develop inner game, and it also covers cold approach and online dating in the final chapter.

letsbehavingu · 2024-10-16T00:21:05+00:00

I think reading all the stories has the advantage of drumming the concepts into your head Ava painting things from didn’t angles. But yes there’s loads of overlap between all the different content

Wing_Inevitable · 2024-10-14T06:44:03+00:00

I will ask you two question

what do you expect from a beginner book ?

And what new thing did you want to learn ?

Billykogos · 2024-10-14T20:08:20+00:00

There's no need to read books about this stuff. Watch some of Kyle's videos and go out, that's it.

Title	Models has nothing new, is it about frame?
Author	unpleasent-thought
Upvotes	21
Comments	36
Date	October 14, 2024 6:24 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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