The belief that males are aggressive while females are nurturing is a dangerous myth

pearl_harbour1941 · 2025-07-07T15:11:42+00:00

The biology behind raw aggression is very clear:

https://neurosciencenews.com/estrogen-aggression-amygdala-neuroscience-1729/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4349580/

Summarized:

Any hormone breakdown product can trigger aromatase receptors in the brain. The number of aromatase receptors is not correlated with sex. That means we can give women excess estrogen and a percentage (thought to be around 9%) will become uncontrollably violent.

This makes sense of why raw aggression is not sex-specific. Women are as violent as men. The only thing that differs is the way in which that violence is expressed.

rockland_beaumont · 2025-07-07T16:59:16+00:00

There are also double standards that skew the facts. If a man is aggressive he is abusive, but the same is not said when a woman is aggressive. A woman can slap and kick a man 100 times, but the moment a man hurts a woman in self-defense it is game over.

yashspartan · 2025-07-07T15:41:19+00:00

It's the "women are wonderful" effect. It's utter bs.

MakeItSloppy4Me · 2025-07-07T20:18:03+00:00

The US has the most women in prison for violent crimes:

https://www.prisonstudies.org/news/female-prison-population-growing-faster-male-worldwide

More children are killed by their own mother than women are by a man they do not know (thi sis extremely important as it's the crux of things like "I don't feel safe walking down the street at night"):

per google AI - "In 2022, approximately 473 child fatalities due to abuse were attributed to mothers."

"in 2021, 12% of female murder victims were killed by a stranger" & "In 2023, the FBI reported 3,849 female murder victims in the United States."

That's 461 women (12% of 3849) killed by a man they do not know in a given year, vs 473ish just children killed by their mother specifically. That 3849 would also include women killed by other women, not just men.

The idea that women are peaceful, don't do things like oh I don't, know poison their husbands and even make tiktoks the day after the election telling women to... kill their husband with poison isn't just sexist, it's a deflection tactic. The same way they will claim "mental abuse" is so bad while making sure every conversation devolves into physical abuse to keep the focus on men and off women.

The whole men are more violent so let's talk about that to ignore women's bad deeds is a pure deflection tactic, but the truth is the US has the most violent women on earth, and US men are no where near close to the most violent men. It's also a tactic to make things zero sum, if men are bad then women can't be bad... because that's how simpletons think. Which is why when men say "men need parental rights and options" they assume it means "take women's rights away and give them to men", feminists are simpletons who think of things in zero sum, absolute "either/or" terms.

Jumpy_Box_9737 · 2025-07-07T20:16:10+00:00

The highest rates of domestic violence occurs between lesbian couples - not a man in sight!

NCC-1701-1 · 2025-07-07T18:18:10+00:00

Watch the violence in the WNBA if you think females are all nurture.

Amir7266 · 2025-07-07T20:35:46+00:00

What surprises me is that most of the female or feminist subreddits, fully believe this ideology.

Or similar ones like “Men will stick their dick in anything for a little funsies” I genuinely want to know where these people developed their insane ideologies

Silly-Following999 · 2025-07-07T16:09:37+00:00

the traditional beliefs makes much of the researches to have a biased view , for example in this article ( https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-athletes-way/201511/the-male-and-female-brain-are-more-similar-once-assumed ) how traditional view about women having more emotional expressiveness has no much scientific backing but still people believe in it :-

According to Dr. Eliot, author of Pink Brain, Blue Brain: How Small Differences Grow into Troublesome Gaps and What We Can Do About It, the general consensus among neuroscientists has been that women tended to have larger hippocampal volume than men. Her latest findings challenge the scientific basis of the assumption that larger hippocampi might explain the generalized observation that females tend to display, "greater emotional expressiveness, stronger interpersonal skills, and better verbal memory.” In a press release, Eliot said,

"Sex differences in the brain are irresistible to those looking to explain stereotypic differences between men and women. They often make a big splash, in spite of being based on small samples. But as we explore multiple datasets and are able to coalesce very large samples of males and females, we find these differences often disappear or are trivial. Many people believe there is such a thing as a 'male brain' and a 'female brain.' But when you look beyond the popularized studies—at collections of all the data—you often find that the differences are minimal."

RealStarkey · 2025-07-07T20:07:14+00:00

Women use men as a proxy for violence regularly.

leethelegend698 · 2025-07-07T19:34:10+00:00

From my past relationship with my ex yea that is total bs. Some of the stuff she did to me I wouldn't want to wish that on my worsf enemy

World-Three · 2025-07-07T22:51:40+00:00

I think positioning dictates treatment too.

traditional norms affects society even behaviour of people in great extend

Maybe you meant the same thing I'm about to say.

As a man, loss is the biggest worry. Typically you're paying for everything to happen. You pay for the relationship to start, to maintain it, sustain the happiness in everyone involved, defend your family from negative influence, and ultimately protect your continuous investments from being a complete waste.

And think of what society does to act against this... Women are encouraged to leave their men if an opportunity arises. He wins the lotto? Divorce and snatch half, he doesn't treat you like all the girls online brag? Divorce. Even before modernity, daytime TV was trying to convince women they shouldn't be happy with their lives.

If you're tasked with holding that family together, and know, or at least, feel, that letting any of it out of your reach is going to expose them to something that'll change their mind about what they've been happy about for years... Wouldn't you be uncomfortable too?

Women are often not put in a position where every dollar invested can be a dollar lost if their shareholder decides they're not fit for the job anymore... I'd imagine if society put women in this position, they'd be violent too. Just the same as how men show their nurturing skills when they have the opportunity to.

Of course nobody is going to think you're strong if you never have to or want to lift anything...

Late-Hat-9144 · 2025-07-09T03:17:13+00:00

Its also based on blatantly false narratives. Multiple studies have shown domestic violence and sexual assault is perpetrated close to equally by all genders.

Rape Statistics

Domestic Violence:

Almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and half (49.7%) of those were reciprocally violent. In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases. Reciprocity was associated with more frequent violence among women (adjusted odds ratio [AOR]=2.3; 95% confidence interval [CI]=1.9, 2.8), but not men (AOR=1.26; 95% CI=0.9, 1.7).

- Differences in Frequency of Violence and Reported Injury Between Relationships With Reciprocal and Nonreciprocal Intimate Partner Violence

The median percentage of men who severely assaulted a partner was 5.1%, compared to a median of 7.1% for severe assaults by the women in these studies. The median percentage that the rate of severe assaults by women was of the rate of severe assaults by men is 145%, which indicates that almost half again more women than men severely attacked a partner.

- Gender symmetry and mutuality in perpetration of clinical-level partner violence: Empirical evidence and implications for prevention and treatment (a meta-analysis of over 200 studies)

This bibliography examines 286 scholarly investigations: 221 empirical studies and 65 reviews and/or analyses, which demonstrate that women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive, than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partners. The aggregate sample size in the reviewed studies exceeds 371,600.

- References Examining Assaults by Women on Their Spouses or Male Partners: An Annotated Bibliography

Back in the 70s, rates of domestic homicide between men and women were almost equal (pgs. 90 and 91). It was only from the early 80s that the number of men being killed by their wives/girlfriends began to decline, likely due to the total gendered usurpation of DV awareness and intervention by feminist groups leading to the creation of things like the Duluth Model and laws like VAWA in the US which, along with other similar initiatives, discriminate against male victims in a variety of ways.

Rape:

Scientific American: 'Sexual Victimization by Women Is More Common Than Previously Known':

The results were surprising. For example, the CDC's nationally representative data revealed that over one year, men and women were equally likely to experience nonconsensual sex, and most male victims reported female perpetrators. Over their lifetime, 79 percent of men who were "made to penetrate" someone else (a form of rape, in the view of most researchers) reported female perpetrators. Likewise, most men who experienced sexual coercion and unwanted sexual contact had female perpetrators.

We also pooled four years of the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) data and found that 80% of male victims who experienced rape or sexual assault reported at least one female perpetrator. Among those who were raped or sexually assaulted by a woman, 58% of male victims and 41% of female victims reported that the incident involved a violent attack, meaning the female perpetrator hit, knocked down or otherwise attacked the victim, many of whom reported injuries.

Slate:

For years, the FBI defined forcible rape, for data collecting purposes, as "the carnal knowledge of a female forcibly and against her will." Eventually localities began to rebel against that limited gender-bound definition; in 2010 Chicago reported 86,767 cases of rape but used its own broader definition, so the FBI left out the Chicago stats. Finally, in 2012, the FBI revised its definition and focused on penetration, with no mention of female (or force).

JuJuMoyaGate · 2025-07-30T05:31:01+00:00

My life has been marred by violence from women, from being born into a family of toxic feminists and sold into human trafficking for being a boy, to being tortured and abused by people sharing my info on the Tea App. There is a movement of women feeling empowered by poisoning and drugging men that needs to be exposed. It’s deep. Please watch my story, I guarantee it will clear up some things and make you ask more questions.

Women are violent and more than just enjoy to hurt others, they relish in it.

A Survival Story https://youtu.be/qyB5TzJGlV0[A Survival Tale](https://ASurvivalStoryhttps://youtu.be/qyB5TzJGlV0)

MaleEducation1 · 2025-07-07T22:44:06+00:00

are not much different like what people like MaleEducation1 and others think , even some difference exists but not a drastic difference like some people claim

I don't deny this. I do believe most men and women are very similar to each other, however, once you start going to outliers they'll become more apparent. These exist, but we shouldn't use this to stereotype or discriminate against them and should also realize that there is plenty of overlap between males and female.

There is plenty of evidence that the male and female brains in humans are distinguishable and thanks to Artificial Intelligence it is becoming tougher to hide these differences even if they might be considered taboo.

Interestingly, male fetuses had a larger crown rump length (CRL) by about 0.12 SD in the first trimester itself. (Broere-Brown, 2016)

Given that gonadal differentiation (tesis and ovaries) has not yet occurred, still unidentified nonhormonal factors are apparently responsible for this difference.(Ben-Haroush, 2012)

Crown Rump Length is not the same as Head circumference but is a good proxy. So there is some evidence that suggests that male fetuses have larger brains even before the testosterone comes in. So a lot of the brain is also shaped by the Y chromosome as well.

In 2004, a study found a dramatically different expression of the proteins derived from the X chromosome and the Y chromosome in male and female brains.

In male brains, many areas are rich in proteins that were coded directly by the Y chromsome and these are absent in female brains. Whereas, female brains was richard in material that were coded directly by the X chromsome, but these were absent in male brains.

So just testosterone and estrogen alone does not cause the differences between males and female brains.

In 2019 a study doing a MRI on pregnant mothers found sex differences in the functional connectivity of the brains of male and females were present in fetuses themselves and were quite distinguishable.

In 2024 a study done by researchers making use of Deep Learning Models found no overlap between male and female brains. Male pattern brain connectivity was able to predict male cognitive function but not female and vice-versa. They were able to make "fingerprints" of the brain and the male and females were completely segregated from each other.

These differences should be celebrated, respected, and cherished in my opinion. Understanding that we are different will alllow us to help both males and females out better. Especially when it comes to schooling, where differences in brain development between boys and girls are a big factor in causing boys to fall behind.

Snoo_78037 · 2025-07-07T15:15:52+00:00

Men and women are different in some ways but similar in other ways. It doesn't take much of a difference in dna to show a difference. Like with chimps, humans share 96% of our dna with them, but we are different in a lot of ways and similar in some. But yeah, I agree women can be just as aggressive as men, but it manifests differently.

Title	The belief that males are aggressive while females are nurturing is a dangerous myth
Author	Takatake_
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Date	July 7, 2025 3:00 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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