What are best arguments against feminism? I am preparing for podcast.

Main-Tiger8537 · 2025-07-21T06:47:47+00:00

watch or read camille paglia or karen straughan

LoopyPro · 2025-07-21T07:31:16+00:00

Feminism, while initially presented as a virtuous equality movement, is in practice an affirmative action program that focuses on equal outcomes rather than equal opportunities. Collective punishment is immoral.

I prefer the term humanism or egalitarianism, which emphasizes individual freedoms.

SquaredAndRooted · 2025-07-21T08:35:06+00:00

Two views you might want to consider -

All Feminist Labels Serve the Same Machinery

Feminists often talk about different “types” of feminism - liberal, radical, intersectional, sex-positive etc. But from the outside, these categories don’t really matter. What matters is what we actually see in practice: the same campaigns, the same slogans, the same selective outrage.

Despite all the categories, all feminist groups end up pushing the same priorities - always ignoring men’s issues, exaggerating women’s victimhood, & resisting accountability. The ideological differences may matter to academics or activists, but to ordinary people, the real world outcomes look the same.

So it’s less about isolated sub-groups & more about a larger machine that runs in one direction, regardless of what name you give the parts.

The Problem Isn’t Pseudo-Feminists, It’s Feminism Itself

A common defense of feminists is that “those are just pseudo-l feminists, real feminism is about equality.” This creates a convenient escape route: every time something goes wrong, the blame is pushed onto a so called fringe group.

If feminism truly stood for equality, its leading voices would be the first to speak out against false allegations, one-sided laws or the neglect of male mental health & suicide. But that rarely happens. Instead, Feminism quickly shifts its definition - from equality, to equity, to equality when all things are equal - depending on what critique it's trying to bury.

The problem isn’t just a few bad actors. It’s how the movement protects itself from criticism, avoids accountability and benefits from systemic imbalance while denying it. That’s not misrepresentation - it’s built into the way feminism operates.

ElegantAd2607 · 2025-07-21T09:17:53+00:00

The reason why I'm not a feminist is because I disagree with the base premise that we live in a patriarchy. We don't live in a patriarchy, we live in a world with unfair expectations. Feminists have decided to call that patriarchy for decades and barely anyone questioned them for it.

DJack276 · 2025-07-21T07:17:36+00:00

One question I've heard is "would women fight for men if men were the oppressed gender and women were in power." And the answer is an astounding NO.

-Men are more likely to be convicted and receive harsher sentences for the SAME crimes as women

-Men have no say in what happens to a baby after impregnation. Meanwhile it is completely up to a woman if they want to kill the baby, or give birth and make the man pay child support.

-Women make up 80% of divorce innitiations

-Men make up 95% of workforce deaths

-Men are forced to sign up for selective service

There are ZERO women who fight for men in these very blatant inequalities which is ironic considering they want "equal rights." Women aren't pushing to serve the same sentences as men, they aren't pushing to give men the option to opt-out of child support in pro-choice states, they aren't pushing to take on more dangerous jobs and also be included in selective service, and they aren't calling each other out on their rampant divorce rates, in fact their being encouraged to do so.

Women can take their "equality" and shove it up their hole.

Any-Criticism5666 · 2025-07-21T21:21:44+00:00

Modern feminism focuses less on equality and more on privileges for women.

_WutzInAName_ · 2025-07-21T10:25:11+00:00

Study this: The Myth of Pervasive Misogyny. It’s full of studies demonstrating the many ways that society is biased in favor of women and against men.

Yet feminists ignore their female privilege. They always want more and more privileges for women without responsibilities or accountability. Their commitment to gender equality is a lie, because 99% of the time they’re only advocating for what benefits women. They regularly tear down initiatives and spaces meant for men while building up initiatives and spaces for the exclusive use of women.

TetraThiaFulvalene · 2025-07-21T06:51:29+00:00

Maybe don't go on a podcast of you don't know anything about the topic.

g1455ofwater · 2025-07-21T15:28:48+00:00

I would ask how feminists getting into power has improved men's lives.

Former_Range_1730 · 2025-07-21T15:43:14+00:00

Well, first, the issue isn't Feminism. It's Feminists.

And I happen to have the holy grail of arguments against feminsist right here in this link for a Feminist Essay called, The Straight Mind.

The Straight Mind And Other Essays (Monique Wittig) (z-lib.org).pdf

This here is the core foundation of what all Feminists follow deep down in some form.

Here's a banger from it on page 40:

'when I try to define what heterosexuality is. I confront a nonexistent object, a fetish, an ideological form which cannot be grasped in reality" - Monique Wittig

Let me know if you need more. I know a lot on this topic.

Adventurous_Design73 · 2025-07-22T01:09:36+00:00

Look at what the tin men posts

dependency_injector · 2025-07-21T09:10:46+00:00

The lack of criticism of radical feminism. According to a popular artificial intelligence:

Fewer than 2–3% of well-known feminists explicitly critique radical feminists by name.

Perhaps 10–15% critique radical feminist ideology without naming names.

The rest — over 80% — remain silent or avoid open confrontation with radical feminism, even when they disagree with it privately or ideologically.

RealStarkey · 2025-07-21T13:08:43+00:00

At its core it’s wrapped in preferential bias for one gender fuelled by hate and false grievances against another one.

Dowhatiwant123 · 2025-07-21T14:06:37+00:00

Feminism is a flawed ideology that had a political motivation rather than a humanitarian one.The biggest mistake it did was convince people that society divided women from men. The primary narrative of feminism has always been that majority of men in the past used to abuse their wives. They say women weren't allowed to recieve any education or get a job. These statements might be true or false, the fact remains that the majority of the population didn't suffer from this problem.Our society might have been class based, caste based, even colour based, but it definitely wasn't gender based. Back in the days barely anybody went to school(peasant life), and most of the jobs available required intensive labour so the feminist arguments about oppression is irrelevant. And lastly about the abuse part, I don't think most men used to abuse most women. In the matter of fact most men back in those days used to fend for women. They used to pay for them n had to do hard work to feed them. However instead of being grateful, feminists chose to take a small minority n use it as their primary foundation for their ideology. The idea of feminism was simply to put women in the work force, not free them from the "SHACKLES OF MEN and THE TYRANNY OF PATRIARCHY".

Hyphalex · 2025-07-21T18:30:13+00:00

Sally Gearhart is pretty evil. eliminating 90% of all men? hard to get more fucked up than that

StripedFalafel · 2025-07-21T07:48:05+00:00

Try this: https://critiquingfeminism.substack.com/p/we-need-to-talk-about-feminism

If you are up for it, I think all of his stuff is good: https://critiquingfeminism.substack.com/

Disclaimer: He's a friend so I could be biassed!

Ok-Consideration8724 · 2025-07-21T10:18:00+00:00

Look at force doctrine. This will get at the men are protectors argument.

kmikek · 2025-07-21T12:13:46+00:00

Rigged studies, like the gender pay gap, which confuses, intentionally, whe word wage with net income. Those men and women who work more hours will have a higher net income at the end of the year than those who dont, at the same wage (rate of money per hour)

pratt_chelsea · 2025-07-22T06:45:18+00:00

That whatever you, feminists want to achieve, is not possible in reality without a Patriarchy.

hbkrajan24 · 2025-07-21T12:19:54+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskIndianWomenLOL/

HarworkingStudent · 2025-07-22T06:19:04+00:00

Be prepared to be embarrassed my guy. This is essentially like asking “What are the best arguments for slavery?”

Like yeah you’ll get some but they’ll almost always stem from some type of “-ism.”

Miaisheara · 2025-07-22T23:30:26+00:00

wow how did I only just notice this sub is about shitting on feminism and not about mens rights?

mrkpxx · 2025-07-21T06:52:33+00:00

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