Why is black pill wrong?

According_Sundae_917 · 2025-10-21T21:36:26+00:00

‘My life has validated it’.

Or do you have black pill confirmation bias?

If everytime you perceive something in your life as unfair and then attribute it to your height then of course your BP world view will feel ‘validated’. But that’s not a scientific process, it’s subjective and highly vulnerable to bias. A happy tall person validates it. A sad tall person is ignored. A neutral looking tall person is perceived as happy or just ignored. BP validated regardless.

Do you understand that a fixed mindset will guarantee you negative outcomes and outlooks? Your BP world view limits your outcomes MORE than any personal attribute (height, colour) is doing in reality.

I’m not saying neurodiversity or difference in physical build never has any impact, they often can present challenges that others never have to consider and it’s hard. But you have your whole life to develop yourself, your mind, social skills, self compassion, friendships, relationships - all of this is possible for you if you decide to be open to it.

BP will put up walls keeping all that stuff away. Don’t let it - recognise it as a kind of mind poison that takes some vague truths and presents them as absolute truths and limits your life. You’re smarter than that so ditch that ideology. A therapist experienced in neurodiversity may be a great step so that you get positive human real world influences over negative ones online.

TinyFlamingo2147 · 2025-10-21T21:15:07+00:00

People who go outside and socialize are happier. Yeah. That doesn't confirm the blackpill.

meleyys · 2025-10-21T21:42:26+00:00

How do you know taller people are happier? You can't actually tell that from the outside.

Also, my most recent ex was 5'7" and probably autistic, and my first boyfriend was 5'4" and probably ADHD. Neither being short nor being neurodivergent is a death sentence for your romantic life.

xvszero · 2025-10-21T21:25:35+00:00

Because black pill takes a vague truth (some physical qualities correlate with certain benefits in an aggregate sort of way) and turns it into "you, YOU PERSONALLY, are fucked if you're X, Y or Z so you might as well not try" which is sheer hogwash.

rando755 · 2025-10-21T21:52:50+00:00

For one thing, the percentage of men who never find any sexual partner is less than a typical black pilled person thinks it is.

Another thing is that, when black pilled people post pictures of themselves online, often but not always, they get told that they are not too ugly to get a sexual partner. Some black pilled people have body dysmorphia, especially regarding their faces.

Rad1Red · 2025-10-21T23:48:45+00:00

You're not a "manlet". You're a short dude. My husband is 5'7" on a good day. I've dated shorter. Chill, dude.

Many of us aren't supermodels either. We accept that we're not for everyone, though yeah, a pang of jealousy exists lol. But it's not the fault of the world. I ain't mad at (insert female supermodel) for existing. I understand we all have our niche.

If you're an asshole whose desire in life is to pump and dump and hurt as many women as possible and are salty because other men have the looks to do it and you don't... Idk what to tell you bro, you're an asshole and karma has dealt you the right hand.

But if you're just a normal guy looking for a relationship, chill, you're gonna find it. Maybe it's gonna be harder, but again, such is life for many of us. I for instance am sexually dominant. Surprisingly few men were up for that in my nook of the woods when I was dating. The traditionally feminine gals had the market. So it was hard for me. But your looks or sexuality are facts of life and not a failing of yours! Get my jist?

squirrely-girly- · 2025-10-22T01:30:35+00:00

My bestie, who is 5’9 and modeled in hs, is married to a man who is 5’4 (and no, he’s not rich, she actually supported them for a year while he worked at a startup that didn’t pan out).

She’s classically stunning and has her pick of men. But she chose him because he’s kind, funny, respectful and—even though he had HORRIBLE life curcumstances with losing both his parents young, he’s maintained an overall positive outlook on life despite struggling with depression. He also has worked hard to keep and maintain a close circle of friends, prioritizing that over ruminating in self pity and despair.

Confirmation bias is very real—you’re not seeing all the tall people locking themselves away from the world. Height may have influence over aspects of life but it’s not a determining factor on happiness unless you make it so.

According_Sundae_917 · 2025-10-23T23:01:51+00:00

OP - please consider engaging with these posts, people are trying to help you out by challenging your mindset.

It would be great to hear your response. And maybe responding could help you process these counter ideas?

Maybe you were feeling very low when you posted and don’t want to engage - but it actually might benefit you to share your thoughts on these responses.

People can see you are stuck in a mindset that’s hurting you and know you could escape that with the right guidance. You’re a human and you deserve support - think about accepting it, we want you to!

Miners-Not-Minors · 2025-10-25T02:39:01+00:00

The comedian Drew Lynch is shorter than you, has a traumatic brain injury and is married to a very attractive ex Olympian.

He spreads so much happiness and I’m much taller than him and find him very attractive because of his energy.

What do you do that makes you happy? Makes you laugh?

teCHONKa · 2025-10-25T19:19:48+00:00

Brother. I use to be you as a 5’6 ex red piller. your post disgusts me. It disgusts me because I know you can be better than this. It is, quite literally, entirely your attitude towards, life, yourself, and people as a whole. Learn to love yourself, your self worth is far more than anything that could be provided from a relationship. Learn to appreciate life for what it is, not what it isn’t giving you. Only once you know who you are and what you want in life, as well as accept what the answers to both of those are with complete honesty, then you will turn around. In college I started that journey after years in this sort of headspace and it led me to becoming a much more well rounded person. Once I accepted myself for who I was and loosened my desire to be “accepted” by women, or even society, I stumbled across the love of my life. I know you can do this, because I did it.

Odd_Doughnut_4284 · 2025-10-21T21:52:33+00:00

Because in life not everyone gets everything? You just have to do with what u have. There’s no special reason or meaning behind why you weren’t born tall

offputtingangel · 2025-10-22T07:49:39+00:00

you can pretty much validate anything if you’re determined enough to see it that way. you can find skewed data and biased articles, listen to videos from people with only your same opinions, and look for confirmation in your daily life… but that doesn’t mean it’s the truth.

realistically your mindset determines how you’ll see the world. a glass half full person and a glass half empty person could be in the same situation and walk away feeling completely differently about it. you didn’t get to choose your height but you do get to choose how you feel about it and perceive yourself.

i’m on the opposite end of the spectrum, i’m a tall, thin, autistic woman. as a teen i was convinced being tall made me unattractive and that no man would ever prefer me. i walked around slouched and without confidence. i lived my life in silence and constantly trying to make myself smaller to the point where i gave myself an eating disorder. when i heard a compliment towards one of my shorter friends i took it as an insult towards myself. it wasn’t a healthy mindset and i wasn’t happy. it was only when i started to take control of my life and way of thinking that things changed for me and became so much better.

in grade 11 i moved to a new school, i decided i was tired of living my life that way and that this was my chance to experiment and be the person i had always dreamt of being. i couldn’t change my height so i stopped focusing on it and focused on what i could control. i got into makeup, learnt to style my hair, got into fashion, and eventually worked up the courage to apply to modelling agencies in the city. this wasn’t just about looks either, i tried new hobbies, talked to new people, i actually put myself out there. i started to focus on the good things about myself, building myself up instead of breaking myself down. i started to actually like myself and allowed myself to see that other people could too. of course that was only the start of the journey but it was important in getting to where i am today. my goal in life is to be authentic and happy. that’s it, that’s all. why would i live my one life forcing myself to feel poorly about myself?

i’m not going to be everybody’s cup of tea and neither are you… neither is anyone! you can go to the social media profile of an influencer you find insanely attractive but there will be comments saying they’re too thin, too fat, too muscular, etc. you’re never going to please everyone so there’s no point in trying to. what’s most important is that you’re pleased with yourself. as i mentioned before you can decide your own mindset and find tons of information to back it up, why not decide on something that’s beneficial to yourself and allows you to be happy?

my fiancé is the same height as me, i prefer men that are a similar height to myself vs giants towering over me. he has adhd to the extreme but he’s also kind and funny and sweet. i don’t view his adhd as a bad thing the same way he doesn’t view my autism as a bad thing. those are just parts of the person we love so much and therefore we love that part too. i’ve often seen it said that shorter men have better face cards thn taller men and i agree. i used to partake in dating apps and everytime i came across a man with an insane face card he was on the shorter side. yet i’m sure the black pill community won’t talk about those memes or pop culture references that uplift shorter men. they want you to believe that you aren’t worth shit because that’s how they keep you worn down enough that you listen and believe what they tell you. of course if you’re walking around hating yourself you won’t have the same life experiences of those that have confidence and a zest for life. stop letting people control your mindset, stop focusing on the negative, stop focusing on the things you can’t control that make you feel powerless and less than. what kind of life do you want to live that you feel you can’t? have you truly tried to create that life or have you just decided that it’s out of reach?

manysidedness · 2025-10-26T18:13:35+00:00

You’re experiencing confirmation bias.

weightgain40000 · 2025-10-26T18:20:32+00:00

Its got nothing to do with height, its got to do with how you are with other people. Like are you fun to be around and good at conversations or are you a negative person, cynical, maybe a bit of an energy vampire etc.

Thats not to say introverts cant be in happy relationships, but someone who doesnt quite know how to socialise well might find it a bit harder to form relationships.

The people that are struggling with aspects of socialising or have had bad experiences with relationships are drawn to black pill/red pill etc, it then makes everything worse for those people by filling their minds with more negativity. I see them now as victims of this and wish it was possible to hold someone accountable for it, its done alot of damage.

Get off social media or change the algorythm, it is not helping you. At all. Ever.

Silent-Hunter-7285 · 2025-10-29T07:25:56+00:00

My partner is 5'5"? He seems pretty happy to me while were cuddling idk?

2025-10-24T17:16:18+00:00

Blackpill? No it's just a fukin scam cult playin with ur animal ansestral biological instincts making u feel ur not worth anything

While looks actually do matters in some but bonedmash? Peptids ,rotting alone, test, starving , 1000 random facial muscle exersise exhausted at the end!

What actually matters are health good health = good looks 4lt water 8 hrs + sleep Low cortisol Good diet Low body fat Gromming (Soft max hairstyle, fashion and small frauding u can fraud height to eye color "Fraud it until u fake it" just not taking it extreme)

This few simple key concepts are more then enough for putting u into such a place to be confident enough and never look back into blackpill and cry

FellasImSorry · 2025-10-25T16:03:06+00:00

This isn’t a debate sub.

EquivalentEvening197 · 2025-10-25T17:59:24+00:00

It’s sexist

Otaku_Owl · 2025-11-04T21:50:04+00:00

This is all I will say: there’s no such thing as confirmation bias in the face of statistics

spaceman06 · 2026-05-19T11:45:41+00:00

To most women redpill is wrong.

85% of women have responsive desire and 25% of men too, outside of fertile period (1-2 days every 28 days for women) and infatuation phase (but only toward the guy(s) she/he is infatuated with), the desire 1 "do I want to have sex and do sexually adjacent things with person X at moment Y assuming we are single, or if we are at relationship, at this relationship we are?" is always a no (remember this is unrelated to desire 2 "would I have pleasure doing sex with person X at this moment Y.....?" being a yes) and can only become a yes by person X doing A, B, C and D to activate her desire and desire activation is temporary.
Also if desire 1 is a no, sexual things make her anxious, feel harassed, disgusted or make desire 1 be even a stronger no, so a too sexual body can cause one of that (outside of fertile period and infatuation), one of the reasons many women automatically swipe left men with swim trunks at tinder.

There are way more rules and limitations, but the basics are that. Those rules are forced because low testosterone, but they can rationalize like its their own opinion and behavior.

I also have a theory (dont know if that is true) that when a person enter responsive desire person field of view (outside of fertile period), they look for less than 1 seconds and stop looking. When a person enter a spontaneous desire, they look for less than one second, and then automatically (without thinking or stopping) look for more X seconds, then if they feel something they continue looking more.
To know what something Z is you need to know what thing W this thing Z is, by looking for less then one second at a body Z you cant know what thing Z this body is, so if Z would make you feel attraction only by beauty alone you would not feel attraction to beauty alone because you didnt saw Z yet.
This happens because she rely at feeling attraction to decide to look more, with 1 second of looking or less she wont feel something, and so will decide to stop looking. But with spontaneous desire they dont start to look at something else after 1 second, they continue looking despise feeling nothing and are able to look enought seconds to (if this thing make them feel something by beauty alone) make them feel something by beauty alone.
Also with a lifetime of looking this amount of time (less than one second) and feeling nothing, you start to feel like its impossible to feel something by beauty alone and cant even think about looking more to check.

Also according to CDC 50% of usa women between 15 and 44 years old, have a unique sex count of 1.81 at average.
There are more than 1.81 guys around her that have certain beauty that blackpill people talk about, if blackpill people were right, she would have a higher bodycount.

Title	Why is black pill wrong?
Author	EquivalentEvening197
Upvotes	6
Comments	121
Date	October 21, 2025 8:50 PM UTC (9 months ago)
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