Men undergo a seemingly pointless procedure to feel the pain of childbirth

Egalitariman · 2013-01-27T12:27:45+00:00

I just thought this was a bit interesting. There seems to be no objective to all the resources, time, and money spent on this device other than torturing men for the sake of "compassion." The one husband in the video is even shamed for openly stating that he doesn't feel it's important to experience what kind of pain his wife will be going through.

It sucks that childbirth is so painful, and I'm glad I'll never have to go through it. However, why cause more pain than necessary? If we were to create a machine that replicated the sensations of a swift kick to the nuts, would it be received this well? And would wives be shamed into this procedure? I would certainly never want my loved one to go through any unnecessary pain, let alone gleefully encourage them to.

We have this narrative in our culture that childbirth is the worst pain one could ever feel, despite the claims of many women who have had much more painful experiences such as dismemberment and kidney stones. While biology is unfair to women in a lot of ways, many women cling onto this narrative as a means of exacerbating their perceived victimization, and men can't dare question it without claims of "well you'll never really know what it's like." I really cannot think of another reason for this device being created other than some women and White Knights attempting to level this "injustice" and get their revenge. It's weird.

EvilPundit · 2013-01-27T16:10:39+00:00

I call bullshit.

First of all, there's no way to know that the pain is the same as, or equivalent to, childbirth.

Secondly, the men can stop it by simply opting out. Put a woman in the same position, and she'd probably opt out too.

It's just a meaningless stunt, but it is still harmful in that it reinforces anti-male myths.

subzero_600 · 2013-01-27T14:02:09+00:00

I would like to see the objective results of such a machine. Have women under take it who has also given birth and compare the 2 results. I bet that the natural birth is less painful simply because the body prepares for what is about to happen rather than experience this sudden shock.

Kampane · 2013-01-27T20:30:46+00:00

Here's the thing. The biology of men isn't designed for childbirth.

I don't mean this in base terms, like men don't have a uterus. I mean this in terms of hormones and the way our bodies deal with the shock.

First, as women progress through labour they receive boosts of oxytocin, the love hormone. In addition, and it seems to have been lost in our cultural memory, many women have intense orgasms while giving birth.

And lastly, our perceived pain of an event can be lowered or heightened by how mild or intense the last portion of that event is. As an example, they did a study on the colonoscopies and found that just pulling the tubes out caused people to have negative recollections of the event, whereas just leaving the tubs in for a minute or so after they were done created a more pleasant recollection of the procedure.

This is important to note because women tend to have orgasms or become sexually stimulated as the child moves through the vagina. They receive a massive does of Oxytocin at the same time and so are open to feelings of intense love and euphoria.

Men's bodies don't do this. We don't have the hormonal release that gives use warm fluffy feelings while we experience the pain a woman would during child birth. Having talk to some women about the issue, anecdotal, they readily admit things like sciatica are far, far worse than the pain experienced during child birth.

NterceptR · 2013-01-27T17:23:57+00:00

When did these guys get the epidural?

Hey I got an idea, lets shove a sand spur up a woman's urethra, and film her passing it over a couple of days, to simulate passing a kidney stone. Read here to find out how women compare the two.

This kind of story has to be a set up piece. I mean really, who calls Good Morning America with a story about their husbands doing this kind of thing. It serves no purpose other than to lift up women at the expense of men.

2013-01-27T18:32:23+00:00

I don't understand this. Why on earth would I want my SO to go through something that I plan on only going through once or twice in my life, in conjunction with him supporting me?

If you're such a vengeful bitch that you can't take the fact that you and your partner entered into an agreement that would require some pain on your part to have a child, I don't think you should bother having that child.

This shouldn't be a game of "who goes through the most pain". Why the fuck is this device even needed?

rebuildingMyself · 2013-01-28T06:09:05+00:00

If I was with someone who wanted me to go through this (guilt-shaming me the whole time), I'd seriously reconsider her feelings for me.

Super_delicious · 2013-01-27T18:30:46+00:00

Not to mention drugs are a wonderful thing. Got numbing medicine for my c section didn't feel a thing. It's really pointless when we have access to pain killers.

Tusse · 2013-01-27T19:19:57+00:00

In other news, women are whacking themselves with hammers and cutting themselves with saws, in an attempt to feel the pain of male workplace accidents.

nini86 · 2013-01-27T22:14:09+00:00

Something I think should be considered as well is that women undergoing childbirth have a clear cut, wonderful goal... giving birth to their children!

Did they offer those two men a huge, life changing, reward for suffering for 12 hours?

Kampane · 2013-01-28T00:42:33+00:00

Retarded. Women have hormones to help them cope with labor (note: unless they're induced. That's nasty shit). They're also experiencing pain for a reward, whereas these men are just tormented for fun.

JeremyKean · 2013-01-28T04:06:30+00:00

Well, no, the point is to experience childbirth.

Next, I'd like to see a procedure that makes women experience getting punched in the balls.

edit: my point in the first bit is just that I disagree with the "pointless" bit. It's like saying "Ooow, they have this seemingly pointless box that makes you experience sitting in the crowd at a sports game." It just sounds disparaging, like it's a problem that people want to experience different sensations.

jack_gats · 2013-01-28T06:30:03+00:00

I don't even believe in the "pains of childbirth". Overall pregnancy is a feel-good experience (endorphines). Otherwise women wouldn't want to have anything to do with it. So maybe we should give boys a 9-month heroine course so that they feel what having a child is like. Women are such frauds all along the line!

PartTimeBadman · 2013-01-27T17:32:56+00:00

How is it "seemingly pointless" if you state what the point is in the title...?

Title	Men undergo a seemingly pointless procedure to feel the pain of childbirth
Author	Egalitariman
Upvotes	15
Comments	45
Date	January 27, 2013 12:13 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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