Only Male teachers need apply.

scottevil110 · 2013-02-21T16:06:34+00:00

I disagree strongly with this. This is just affirmative action, only the other way for once. It's still just as detrimental. If we're shooting for gender equality, which I think BOTH sides mostly are, making your hiring decisions based on nothing but gender is no better when it's men than when it's women.

EDIT: Holy shit, it's my first cake day!

Demonspawn · 2013-02-21T16:43:15+00:00

Would more male teachers, or more visible minorities, translate into a better education system?

Wait, I thought "diversity" was an assumed good thing.... oh, wait, when "diversity" means having more men around then it's wrong.

PerniciousOne · 2013-02-21T19:06:43+00:00

I know several male primary school teachers. They have a difficult job. They are in a predominantly female profession. They have to be extra careful because one false accusation against them means the end of their career.

Considering that many of the children they work with come from single-mother households, them being their teacher is their only male role model in their life.

ellamking · 2013-02-21T21:55:45+00:00

"Surveys of male teachers have found many believed because of their interest in working with children, they are too often viewed as potential pedophiles. A 2010 Ontario survey of male teachers found one in six had faced allegations of "inappropriate contact with students." Others have claimed they have been sexually harassed by the female majority."

:(

Stratisphear · 2013-02-21T18:35:35+00:00

First, this may actually be a good idea. Affirmative action isn't a good idea when gender doesn't mean anything in the job, but male role models are very important for young boys. More men in education could definitely help them.

Second, the hypocrisy is glaring.

jbates8 · 2013-02-21T17:10:02+00:00

BAHAHAHA, I'm always entertained when feminists don't realize the hypocrisy involved with disputing something like this. You want easier standards to become fire fighters or be let in the military? You want quotas ensuring 50% women on boards? Well, if you do then you can't oppose this bill without outing yourself quite obviously as a hypocrite.

I don't like affirmative action, but education is more important than just about everything else within society. At the moment, anti-domestic violence campaigns target children as young as 6-7 and try to tell them they'll grow up to be demonic pedophile rapists. This is disgusting. Getting more male influence in the education system can only help all of society. I see giving women easier standards for fire fighting as much more dangerous (read the recent article in Sweden; it takes 45 secs for a man to break down a secure door... for women, that number is above 10 mins, which is said by many to be way to late for anyone trapped in a burning building.)

double-happiness · 2013-02-21T20:39:21+00:00

Former teacher here. If you're going to do anything at all with the recuitment into the teaching profession, you're going to need to increase salaries and totally overhaul discipline in schools. I'm not sure why teaching tends to attract more women than men, but it's actually rather unimportant compared to the fact that teaching is not seen as a desirable option by most graduates. Student teachers are sold the idea that teaching is a 'vocation' where personal rewards are expected to outweigh financial benefits, whilst being inculcated with a lot of propaganda about how 'inclusivity' and 'reflexive practice' are supposed to compensate for inequality and deprivation in the student populace.

If you want to see capable men and women applying in roughly equal numbers for teaching jobs, you need to bump up the salaries and institute serious discipline and control in schools, so that they are actually nice places to work. As things stand, you'd have to either be a bit of an oddball, or have a long-term plan that only involves a few years of teaching, to actually want to stand up in front of a class in your average state school.

AnnArchist · 2013-02-21T21:39:07+00:00

Welcome to post-feminism

They built this. I don't support this or any gender discrimination

Pecanpig · 2013-02-21T20:14:53+00:00

I would only support this if the male teachers taught male students, and visa versa.

Otherwise it's pointless discrimination (as opposed to useful allocation).

drinkthebleach · 2013-02-21T20:17:06+00:00

Isn't this still sexism?

occupythekitchen · 2013-02-21T22:07:27+00:00

Based on how a lot of female teachers hold grudges against children for giving her a harder time, grade girls less rigorously so to proof their own bias and have a teaching style that suits a gender over the other I'd say yes at least 50% of the students should benefit from this changes.

Celda · 2013-02-22T02:57:59+00:00

As others have said, affirmative action is wrong.

But it's more wrong to have only affirmative action that helps women but not men, than it is to have affirmative action for both men and women.

Therefore this is an improvement to the status quo.

Tak7ics · 2013-02-22T05:02:45+00:00

my favorite part of this whole thing

"Still, the reaction to the memo by existing teachers was not positive. "They're not willing to look at anyone who is white and female," an unnamed teacher told the Globe. "It (a job opening) should go to the person who is best for the job."

The irony here is quite thick; this is, after all, one of the only instances in which women can assume the role of the oppressed majority."

revokatt · 2013-02-22T07:54:58+00:00

The biggest thing you can do to get more male teachers is to clear up the stereotypes & bad treatment - meaning sexual harassment, false accusations of abuse/misconduct, and removing the stigma of pedophilia.

History has shown that men make fine teachers, and are willing to do the job. There's no need for social engineering and affirmative action.

StarFscker · 2013-02-22T05:31:46+00:00

Reverse-reverse sexism.

2013-02-22T13:26:56+00:00

This is terrible. Hire based on the best candidate. If men aren't showing an interest in entering the teaching profession then so be it.

Title	Only Male teachers need apply.
Author	PerniciousOne
Upvotes	47
Comments	44
Date	February 21, 2013 4:04 PM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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