A Simple Reminder #2

This community has the same issues as any other in-group: one person sees a problem and has an idea about a reasonable solution. That one person gets a few people together, and they start talking about this reasonable solution.

Then a few more people join in. Then some more people. Then more people after that.

Suddenly, if you're not paying close enough attention, the "reasonable solution" can shift from the original idea. A lot of the times, that shift moves towards the less reasonable, more militant and angry direction.

Now, the original ideas are cast out and rejected as the masses have flooded the in-group, the majority of whom are not only incapable of understanding the nuance and details of the original reasonable idea. They prefer the short, simple, extreme ideology that doesn't require much thinking and is easy to understand.

Most religions began with some dude preaching peace and love but later morphed into justifying violence and hatred.

The story of M.A.D.D. (Mothers Against Drunk Driving) is really interesting. The founder started the organization with a reasonable premise. But as the organization grew, it became more extremist. To the point that the founder was kicked out of her own organization by the other members because the founder's views weren't extreme enough for the organization.

TRP is no different. The original idea founding this community is reasonable: maybe our cultural values and expectations for male-female sexual relationships are inconsistent with how people behave naturally; maybe if you want to have more success with attracting women, you should change your behavior in a way that might be socially counterintuitive.

However, like with any other group, the nuance and the details might be too much for the average savage to understand. All they know is that things with women aren't the way they expect them to be. And the default human response is to blame the other person instead of looking at ourselves.

This is the Anger Phase described in this community, where men are dealing with the discrepancy between their socially raised expectations and the natural reality of human sexual behavior.

This Anger Phase is typically expressed as a rage against women. "Women are all fucking whores." "These bitches can't be trusted." "These fucking sluts are just animals." "Women are fucking stupid."

All of these are just reflections of a guy's expectation that a woman behave differently than how she might naturally be inclined to behave. It's like being angry because your cat knocks shit off your counter tops. If your cat knocking shit off your counter tops angers you, then you're the asshole in this situation for expecting a cat to not do cat things.

So the members of this community can sometimes react negatively to ideas that women are anything but "subhuman animals who aren't capable of being as awesome as their naturally superior male counter parts."

Such extremist ideas are short, simple, and easy to understand without having to do a lot of thinking; and they're off base from the original reason why this community was started.

So things do have a tendency to shift and evolve over time. My concern is that by supporting simple messages over the nuance and detail of the truth, this community will degrade [further] into another hate group, like many other well-intentioned groups before us. At which point, we'll no longer be a community seeking how to improve our sexual success with women; it'll just degrade into a circlejerk of "women r dum."