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Your best Agree & Amplify...

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JokerFNG
February 3, 2018
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Lifting and Sidebaring. Following my MAP. I have successfully utilized STFU and AM, but as I am not the funniest tool in the shed, nor am I good at sarcasm, I need work with my AA.

I searched and read a couple posts on AA but there is no definitive resource I have found thus far. AA also seems like the toughest to master and fastest way to go autistic or Rambo.

I figured a good way for me and other pubescent noobs to learn this stuff is to create a catalogue.

So how about it? Your best AA and the shit test that earned it... that, or your most recent.

I’ll also take alternative resources like books, movies etc, to help me build my AA skills.


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Title Your best Agree & Amplify...
Author JokerFNG
Upvotes 8
Comments 27
Date 03 February 2018 03:28 PM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/204861
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/7uzwpu/your_best_agree_amplify/
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[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

You say that you are not good with humour or sarcasm, that is very self aware of you and it is a powerful thing to know one’s weaknesses. So for you the answer is pretty simple, you avoid A&A all together. There are many ways to respond to a shit test, so for you introverts ignore is the best one. Just ignore her shit test altogether. Pretend you did not hear what she said and get on with steering the conversation in a direction you prefer. If you try A&A it will just sound autistic unless you have frame and good comedic timing. So no point putting together a script or playbook of A&A techniques, just ignore her shit tests. Another great way to deal with shit tests is the pressure flip. This does not require good timing or a great sense of humour. Read up on the TRP sidebar and top posts about shit tests and work in the pressure flip.

[–]Fritz_Frauenraub0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

In one of his pods, the BP Professor says something like this: "some guys get shit tested so often that if they AA they would present as a clown". He goes on to make the point that AA was developed for PUA pickup game...in other words for dealing with pickup shit tests; which are a form of flirtation.

He suggests that simply ignoring the shit test is the best option in many cases.

This was an eye opener for me because all I saw here on MRP was "AA! AM!".I'm a born straight-man....sometimes I think of a witty comeback within 5 minutes but usually it's a day later or never.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Easiest just to ignore. There is a reason STFU is used often in MRP.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (6 children) | Copy

AA typically works best when she's shit testing you about something absolutely ridiculous.

Many wives will start feeling fat and ugly as you continue going to the gym. They'll start throwing out accusations of cheating. These are great AA moments.

you: "Heading to the bar to meet up with some of my friends. See you in a couple of hours."

her: "You're meeting up with a woman, aren't you???"

Blue Pill You: "No, sweetie! I don't have eyes for anyone but you! I'm sorry that I was so thoughtless, but it really is just drinks with the guys. I mean, if it's making you worried, I'll call them and cancel and we can go out, k?"

AA you: "A woman? Babe, I have at least 20 women meeting me at the bar right now! And they'll be PISSED if I'm late. See ya!"

Recently my wife was questioning the finances. She said something like, "I have no idea where all the money is spent!" I said, "Well, at least half of it goes to hookers and blow." She laughed and nothing came of it. Had I gone BP and tried to defend where the money goes, it would have been a fight and I'd have been squarely in her frame.

[–]CasperTFG_8086 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

I loved that one, used something similar when my pay check wasn’t in my account on the 30th (because Jan has 31 days)

wife: where’s your pay check is there something I should know.

Me: I already told you my pay checks are going straight to my other family in Florida now. Don’t believe me, you could just wait until the 31st to see if it’s there, it’s only the 30th.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I’m from FL. Can confirm. Thanks for the paychecks, Casper 👍🏼

[–]CasperTFG_8082 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Your ma better be buying you kids school books with that money and not blowing it all on booze again.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Schoolbooks? We’re not in school. She’s giving it all to Larry. He says he’s investing it for her. At least that’s what he says when he and Mom go into the bedroom.

[–]Reach180Red Beret4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

I usually just deadpan the first sentence of your BP example.

Delivered right, it's hamster Red Bull.

[–]ReddingtonsShitList0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah I do this sometimes. Say the sappiest most pussified shit I can think of while sounding as bored as possible. It always pisses her off. I love it

[–]The_LitzRed Beret3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy

Online catalog? Nope, it will be forced and unnatural. You have to develop it yourself.

AA is just a technique you use. It has to fit in with you and your lifestyle. It is not a magical sentence that will subdue a woman and turn her into putty in your hands, it is just one tool of many.

Being a man of high value is what makes that tool work. Being high value will make anything that comes from your mouth sound like an excellent AA line.

For example. If you are high value you can use bad language and she won't flinch. If you are a suplicating beta bitch any foul language will be met with frowns or repremands.

It is all how and from whom AA is delivered, not the actual words themselves.

[–]Luckylancer961 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Op wants used and ready words, it wont be usefull, you are right about this. But op actualy needs to hear examples to get the mindset.

In trp, there are always "you are here" and "you must be here" type of advices are given. "Use this way" is non existent or weak. A commentor at below gave 2 good examples that shows correct mindset. That kind of responds are better in asktrp in my opinion.

[–]JokerFNG[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

It’s not so much a catalogue, maybe that was the wrong word. I am thinking more to understand the frame of mind.

I have done enough reading to know it is about mindset and not carefully inserted dialogue. I am not that noob.

Being a sarcastic and dirty son of a bitch is not my natural state of mind but something I can aspire to.

In my mind, I have AA as being clever and witty. I am at this point not that clever or witty, but would like to add more of it into my frame.

I am not trying to steal other people’s wisdom word for word, but want to understand the frame from which it comes.

[–]The_LitzRed Beret0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

AA does not have to be clever and witty, especially if it is an unnatural state for you.

AA is mainly used to take the wind out of her sails and can be delivered without being witty or without being sarcastic. I'm not sure where you picked up that it is sarcastic or snarky, which btw is not going to help if you belittle or humiliate her comments.

The end goal of AA is:

  • Not DEERing to your SO when she is trying to pull you into an argument.

  • Showing her you have frame and are not pulled from it.

  • Not supplicating to her to fix a problem for her.

Do you have any recent examples where you failed this?

[–]JokerFNG[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

In all honesty, I don’t have any recent samples. I have been pretty good at STFU and AM. That was during my last two months at Home.

I am currently 6000 miles away from my misses and she hasn’t shit tested me much in our communication.

I did catch some shit about my spending abroad...

I am here to make money and send some home but while I get adjusted I have been burning a lot. (Rent, Deposit, Necessities like towels and what not) I am on to my 4th week and look forward to my first paycheck this week.

She tried to set a ridiculous budget ($20 a day for three squares and transit) to which I replied “takes money to make money.” But it came of DEERish.

48 hours later and she realized the error of her ways. Also distance makes cold shoulder dread that much more effective. I showed her one does not have to pick up the phone when the time difference is less than desirable.

It all could blow up but I came here for me. The money is a nice bonus, and she can join me with the kids when and if she wants. That’s the frame I came here with...

My last year prior to a self realization, and stumbling on to the pill she has treated me like a drunk passenger. I am back to captain. She can join if she likes, other then that I killed Beta me. He is buried in the yard next to the fucks given.

[–]SiegreicherMarsch2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

The best way is to literally store your canned responses inside a can. I put them on the inside bottom of a soda can and then when my wife deploys a shit test, I "take a drink" from the can to read the line. Works great.

[–]JokerFNG[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That is genius, I am going to use this immediately. Submissive wife and insane monkey sex here I come!

[–]JudgeDoom692 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

The idea behind a proper shit test response is that you don't let her words affect you. You remain in-frame and in control of your shit.

If you don't have a quick wit, Agree and Amplify is not for you. You can't use pre-rehearsed phrases, that will come across as phony.

Have you read "When I Say No , I Feel Guilty" by Manuel J. Smith? Fogging would be a better technique for you to deflect a shit test.

You just glibly accept the shit, or a part of the shit, even if it's bullshit, and you repeat it back to your wife. "Yes, I screwed up". "You're right, that was pretty dumb." Eventually she'll get exhausted throwing stones at the fog.

[–]WesternhagenWinner1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

What would you say to your pesky kid sister? That's your AA response.

[–]JokerFNG[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

But I don’t get sexually explicit when teasing my kid sister.

The kid sister is where I get my amused mastery from.

[–]wadearave1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Take an improv class. If you’re in any decent sized city you’ll be able to find one. Improv is built on the concept of “Yes, and...” its the same idea as AA. Improv will provide a structured way to recognize what it looks like and the opportunity to practice it.

Classes might also be offered at a community college as well.

At the very least google “Yes, and...” a different approach might help you understand it.

[–]ReddJiveRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

/u/88Will88 is absolutely right.

Frame is far more important. If you lack frame AA and AM can come as combative, it can hurt your interactions more than helping them.

This is a common mistake. Guys make it because they don't understand the subtleties. With no frame AA and AM come off as being a sarcastic asshole. You're not being cocky to show off how cool you are, you're being cocky to show that you don't take things too seriously.

Cocky funny isn't about being cool and aloof, it's the opposite. When you say something that makes fun of the girl you're talking about, it's not supposed to seem like a true statement, it should be tongue-in-cheek, slightly ironic, even mischievous. In other words Frame.

Women can sense when a guy is trying to get something from them, they can smell an agenda like a shark can smell blood. So, when you try to fake your way as a method of impressing a girl, it doesn't work.

[–]DanceMonkeeDanceRed Beret0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Yes, the best way for autistic fucks to learn agree and amplify is to build an online catalog of canned responses. How's that?

[–]youcantdenythat4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

You forgot to amplify.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

He needs a library of canned responses!

[–]DanceMonkeeDanceRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

WikiAmplify

[–]markpf730 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Your goal with the whole AA, AM skill set ultimately should be that it is natural and reflexive. It is a learned behavior/skil/personality.

Immerse yourself in ball busting podcasts while you drive. You'll start to absorb some of it that way too.



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