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[–]druganswer 11 points11 points11 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
this doesn't sound like a main event at all. it sounds like you are in a marriage that is almost done with.
you don't even know she is lying, so i don't know what to tell you there. if you know she is lying so that you aren't on her insurance I would divorce her. isn't that the direction she is heading? what value does she bring to this "relationship"?
do you have your divorce stuff all prepped with your own lawyer? this should have been done, like yesterday.
gym, lawyer, bust your ass at work. be prepared to be on your own.
[–]Nymdox5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It looks like the value is that she owns everything, up to and including his balls.
[–]Thomaskingo1 point 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Yes, but not really. She's a single mother with a house (expenses and mortgage) all alone without him. If she loses him, then she has to foot all the expenses herself, which means she instantly would take a hit to her living standards. If he moves out, then he can just go on his merry way, and set up shop elsewhere without any commitment (dependent upon what insane marital courts he might have to hazard). This is probably why she hasn't thrown him out yet. In essence she needs him more than he needs her.
[–]deadsandsushi 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
She told you more than once that she wants a divorce, and purposely didn't put you on her health plan. She'd rather go on Obummercare than be your dependent on your plan.
She's checked out. What makes you think your show of "disappointment" means shit to her?
Your SMV might be higher on the market but she doesn't care. Give her the divorce. If you're as in shape as you claim, you can spin plates.
[–]screechhaterRed Beret2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Ya, well, he is still in her frame and she wags the dog.
Until he has the aha moment on his own, he is stuck in the whirlpool of trying to fight the riptide. Little does he know he can push off and spin.
Glad you commented. Can you spin me ? My wife didn't lift and I love you long time knowing you have a good deadlift number
Ok, sorry. Who gives ten fucks. The OP has "head wedged in her ass ideous". She is screaming play "save a ho" or else.
I hope he wakes up, gets a lawyer and starts to sniff the roses
[–]deadsandsushi 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
A lot of problems in this sub would be solved if men didn't wife up women who don't lift. It would save years of upping your SMV only to have a fat wife sitting on the couch.
[–]stonepimpletilists 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A lot of problems in this sub would be solved if men didn't wife up women who don't lift.
If you go back, to the first post in TRP. PK_atheist brings up this exact point.
I'm going to discuss briefly what my intention is for this subreddit.
I'm Desmond, and I've been active in both the Men's Rights and the Seduction subreddits. They're both wildly popular subs, but both have major failings that I've slowly identified. They both operate subtly under the feminist imperative. Group-think at both tend to fail to grok the importance of coming to terms with objective reality - something the manosphere has termed "taking the red pill."
I haven't seen serious discussion on sexual strategy that goes beyond the pickup.
We've heard the common trope in many men's subreddits: "Not all women are like that" That's true. Don't get me wrong. But something it undermines is honest discussion about evolutionary psychology, and society in terms of what a sexual life is like for a man. "How is that?" I hear you ask. It's simple. Let's describe a problem. Let's say, for example, When I shower my girlfriend with gifts, she breaks up with me or cheats on me.
The men's rights approach: She was a bad egg, find a better one.
The seduction approach: You were displaying unattractive qualities, no shit she left you.
Ok, score one for seddit.
But wait- Let's say I game properly, and maintain an alpha stance, and keep my girlfriend in my frame. We eventually get married and have kids. She later divorces me and takes everything I've got.
The men's rights approach: The law is against you.
The seduction approach: She was a bad egg, find a better one.
Who scores this time? I argue neither. I argue that love is the myth here- more on that later. But it's important to note, in neither scenario was there decent advice to actually move forward in my life. Both ignore the systematic issues that present themselves in relationships, they ignore the reality of psychology, the reality of the law, and the reality of men and women and their subtleties.
Both subreddits appear to still be operating within the frame that feminism put forward. That the one for you is just around the corner, and that courting can work, just so long as you find her and know game.
It's false, and disingenuous.
Let's open discussion here. Let's talk about exactly what it means to be a sexual man in the era of feminism. How do we fulfill our needs sexually? Emotionally? How do we do so without taking unnecessary risks?
In a culture where the only thing standing between you and prison is whether the last girl you fucked decides to lie about rape, these are REAL questions that I think are being ignored.
Welcome.
[–]presbush0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks. I dated a lot after the divorce and she was the best. But as nice guy saw lots of desperation. I meet girls regularly in my business and social life. So not a problem there.
[–]Nymdox4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
FWIW, the enrollment deadline for most US companies really was the 30th, but man that is the least of the issues here.
Her house, her daughter, her insurance... what part of your life is yours?
[–]BobbyPeru2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
She's running your shit like a three ring circus. You need to get some frame and some balls. So she lets you back in the house and you make a move and she rejects you, and now she's been sleeping in another room. Dude, the writing is on the wall. Read it.
Bobby, you misread. "move in" meant moving in for action. I am in the house. We were in bed.
[–]UEMcGillI am become McGill, Destroyer of Blue Pill2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Why the fuck do you keep talking after she says, "I want a divorce"?
"You got it" should be your only answer.
There's no conspiracy here. She's done! Fuck man.
[–]SampsonBrass 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Boom. All the advice you need right here OP
[–]PurpleVeteranRed Beret1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Had a big falling out last month. I maintained frame. Got good results--sex.
Ugh, how often do we hear this from the newbies? "We fought, I stood up, got sex!" When you're thirsty, just getting a drink is a win!
So congrats, you got your dick wet and took your eyes off the ball.
[–]logger1234 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
How old is the daughter?
"Her" Daughter - you married someone and are help raising someone else's kid? Unlike some here, I won't judge, I just want to understand.
How old are you? How old is she? height, weight, SMV, body fat percentage? Do you lift? Read sidebar? How long since you came to the pill?
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[–]Scurvemuch 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Get a divorce and if you still want to fuck her after its settled you can plate her.
If your game isn't shit, you can be banging 30 year olds .
Ps:
re: Confront lying.
Oh my gosh it so doesn't matter. Maybe she did lie because of some stupid plan - what does it impact you? Ignore it.
The fact that you're overly worried about this worries me. Of course, it is POSSIBLE I don't understand.
[–]stonepimpletilists 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
She doesnt want him on insurance because shes severying ties
[–]presbush1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, she is severing ties and it may be over.
[–]FireTempered 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
But what is the most effective way to register my disappointment with her lying to me about this issue?
Press her to file for divorce. Tell her you aren't getting any younger. Start living like a single man.
I remember your first post. This marriage is DOA.
You are one of the few that I would say - End this sad excuse for a marriage!
[–]presbush0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Thanks. You may be right.
[–]FireTempered 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
From my experience, if you are in the US and she is an employee on Nov 30, she does not have to do anything for HER to continue to be enrolled. If you were enrolled as her spouse, if she did nothing, you continue to be enrolled.
Why are you putting up with her? Are you afraid no one else will fuck you?
[–]presbush0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Thanks. Don't know and no.
[–]FireTempered 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Then you are comfortable that you are an attractive man, but you don't know why you are putting up with her.
I am beginning to think you like to whine and complain like a bitch, but you really are not doing any serious critical thinking here.
But keep in touch, if you ever decide to take charge of YOU instead of HER, your FR's will be great to read.
[–]drty_prRed Beret0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not may be right, he is right. If something even a little bit different or better comes along, your ass is on the street. Look out for yours bro.
[–]Nyquil-Junkie0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sounds like a great deal of bother. Life is short.
[–]GargantuaBlarg29 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What have you done to improve? You are an amorphous blue pill blob.
[–]sunthas0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My business got insurance this year, and I compared with hers. Hers was a little better. So I wanted to stay on hers. She is pissed and says I should go on mine. I say put me on yours and we will continue the same way.
off topic, my company (I thought because of obama care) doesn't let me add my wife to my health insurance plan if she has one available through her work, I would have thought it to be the same for everyone.
[–]LewisCross 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A wife saying "I want a divorce" is not a main event. It is a wife saying that she is done with the marriage.
In my opinion when a woman outright says she wants a divorce, sleeps separately for three days, won't talk to you for three days, and is making heavy financial demands including changing the previous financial arrangement that had been working fine for the both of you, it's pretty much over.
what u/druganswer said. Lawyer. Now. Get to work. Prepare to split.
[–]bogeyd6Mod / Red Militia0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh boy. She is checked out and you are trying to save her. Problem is she does not want to be saved. She wants to leave and she wants you to take the steps to do it? Why? Most likely she will tell everyone you filed for divorce and she is the hapless victim. The past guys and baby daddies weren't her fault either, they all left her. She is just playing out her life script. Wouldn't worry too much on it. Just file divorce and spend some time working on you.
[–]InChargeManRed Beret0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This sounds like a fucking mess. Why are you pushing to stay married? Clearly one or both of you are incapable of a healthy relationship.
[–]screechhaterRed Beret0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
1- captain save a ho - you is not
2- 50/50 on the bills. Or a joint account. If there is no trust in the money - I'm sorry, you are fucked. Get the fuck out and find some peace and joy
3- threatening to file is of low value She is displaying this
4- if she is of no value added to you ...... then what the fuck are you doing ?
Main event. A clear break in time of shift in control of the relationship. You may actually be headed into one and all this testing before she decides she will relent and follow.
Step aside and be cautious not to fall into her frame and remain vigilant in your growth and direction. The ultimate shit storm may be coming and this could just be the precursor. AKA calm before the storm.
5'8" ??? Know one gives a fuck. Height means nothing to me. My nephews are all 5'6" to 5'10 and all three punished the Taliban. My best friend is 5'7".
Keep reading. Glad to hear you are lifting.
[–]presbush0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Thanks for this. It is a change in control. I think once I put the papers down, she will have a change of heart.
[–]stonepimpletilists 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
you're an idiot.
[–]FireTempered 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Agree. I'm done with this post.
[–]stonepimpletilists -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
This is why so many post on never 'red pilling' people. They have no interest in being happy, only in being 'right'
If this were IRL, he would actually fight you, rather than protect himself from the ass-raping he will recieve.
I hope it's a troll, at least then it makes sense
[–]FireTempered 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Still find the number of deep cover, serious trolls lately, surprising.
[–]stonepimpletilists 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
don't. u/abdada has a great post on his blog 'we are all drug dealers'
Most people here are simply looking for their next fix, actually fixing men is beyond their comprehension
[–]abdadaRed Beret0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
OP is a troll. There's no obvious connection in the post to MRP.
[–]FireTempered 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think once I put the papers down, she will have a change of heart.
You are sprinkling alpha on your blue pill dream here. Do things because you decide to, not in the hope of manipulating or changing her behavior.
This will not go well, but nothing has gone that well so far for you. She seems to be doing OK….
Maybe you need to change your thoughts and actions before you do things to try to change someone else's.
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