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Heartbreaking tale from Relationships. Just a reminder, some women will turn on you in a heartbeat the second you cease to be useful.

Clauderoughly

August 14, 2013
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Title Heartbreaking tale from Relationships. Just a reminder, some women will turn on you in a heartbeat the second you cease to be useful.
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Clauderoughly

Upvotes 61
Comments 141
Date August 14, 2013 11:27 PM UTC
(12 years ago)
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[–]rkg-pua21 points 12 years ago [recovered] (102 children) | Copy Link

Obligatory Briffaults Law Link: http://www.stickmanweekly.com/ReadersSubmissions2009/reader5546.htm

[–]Phlexonance24 points 12 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Any agreement where the male provides a current benefit in return for a promise of future association is null and void as soon as the male has provided the benefit

Recall the Richard Feynmann story where he was told that it's OK to buy a girl at a bar a drink after she has agreed to sex that night?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feynman was a player. No way does his opinion matter when generalising.

[–]Clauderoughly[S] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A sad reminder.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow thats a brilliant piece right there.

[–]Hajimotto 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I noticed that it was based on the assumption that women are marrying men with more monetary assets and thus marrying up. However, is it not true that the average male has more monetary assets then the average female. Thus it is not surprising that the majority of women marry a man with more assets. Is this point considered during the calculations or in later articles by him?

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (96 children) | Copy Link

"Recently many in the western nations have been up in arms over a law passed in, I believe, Saudi Arabia that said if a married woman refuses her husband sex, then he can refuse to feed her. All are screaming it is Islamic misogyny. Seems to me, it is an equal degree of enforcement for both sides of a contract."

[–]Phlexonance13 points 12 years ago [recovered] (63 children) | Copy Link

But it's not really a contract when the girls get married off at ages 11-13 and have no choice

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Marriage at those ages is extremely rare and mostly conducted by uneducated people. The average age of marriage in Saudi Arabia about what it is in western societies.

[–]Phlexonance-2 points 12 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

I don't actually know any facts about the Middle East, there's just this incident that stuck with me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDh2fF4ccwI

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

That video was proven to be 100% fake. Great acting though isn't it?

[–]Phlexonance0 points 12 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Huh. Any evidence?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

First of all, it should be obvious that this girl was seeking attention. You could tell by all the photo ops that she did. This article tells her parents side of the story;

http://yemenpost.net/Detail123456789.aspx?ID=3&SubID=7048

[–]Phlexonance0 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

So it's word against word now. Not quite "100% proven fake"

[–]rich024680 points 12 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

It's Saudi Arabia, not Afghanistan.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Both countries practice Sharia, both have child brides.

[–]Phlexonance1 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Happens in Yemen (close to Saudi Arabia) too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDh2fF4ccwI

[+]applebloom -18 points-17 points-16 points 12 years ago (53 children) | Copy Link

Still a contract. The father usually makes the arrangement and he knows better than any women regardless of their age. This is how society should be.

[–]Phlexonance9 points 12 years ago [recovered] (50 children) | Copy Link

The way you see it, the woman is object of the contract rather than subject to the contract.
Let's not forget that women are people....

[+]enticingasthatmaybe -15 points-14 points-13 points 12 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Let's not forget that women are people....

Why?

Is a man's 'people' status considered when his flesh and blood children are pulled from him by family courts to live with his ex wife and her new husband?

Is a little boy's 'people' status considered when a woman decides that he needs to live with mutated genitals his entire life because of her preference?

[–]clockworkgirl21 13 points14 points15 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Is a little boy's 'people' status considered when a woman decides that he needs to live with mutated genitals his entire life because of her preference?

Just so you know, I've met far more women against infant circumcision than men. Many men are against it too, but the mens' go to argument seems to be, "I like my penis, so I'm doing it to my son too."

[+]enticingasthatmaybe -8 points-7 points-6 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Infant genital mutation is wrong regardless of who decides. Your 'nuh uh men do it moar' deflection not withstanding. The fact remains that women can and do unilaterally decide for infant genital mutilation without the father's input or even under protest from the father.

Men don't have the unilateral ability to decide for infant genital mutilation whereas women do, so stop your attempts to deflect away from this extreme injustice.

[–]clockworkgirl21 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You do know a father can take his son for a circumcision without the mother's knowledge or consent as long as his name appears on the birth certificate, right? Same as women.

[–]Phlexonance7 points 12 years ago [recovered] (7 children) | Copy Link

Do we need to make the same mistakes?

[+]enticingasthatmaybe -12 points-11 points-10 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

The mistake of giving power to a capricious creature driven by emotion and solipsism? No, we should not make that mistake.

[–]clockworkgirl21 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Stereotypes, huh?

Let's have sex work this way: Only the woman's consent matters, since men always want sex and will never turn it down.

[–]enticingasthatmaybe -5 points-4 points-3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not sure if sarcasm

[–]clockworkgirl212 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Yes, sarcasm.

[–]Phlexonance9 points 12 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Treating someone like a person == giving power to ?

[+]enticingasthatmaybe -6 points-5 points-4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I am not going to perpetuate this circular feelings logic with you when you can't qualify what the overly vague statement "treating someone like a person" even means.

[–]Phlexonance11 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Yes it did feel like we're going nowhere.

Still a contract. The father usually makes the arrangement and he knows better than any women regardless of their age. This is how society should be. - applebloom

Treating a woman like a person would allow her to enter the contract of marriage herself and not be put into it by her father.

I guess it would give her power, but so what? Taking that power away will only serve betas.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

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[–]enticingasthatmaybe -5 points-4 points-3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

lol, your answer is literally "because patriarchy". GTFO troll

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Have you read the Old Testament? It's basically a literal definition of a patriarchal society.

[–]enticingasthatmaybe -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Where in the old testament did women have the right to unilaterally decide to mutilate her infant son? I must have missed that part.

[–][deleted]3 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

No where and that's what I'm saying. It was handed down by Abraham and it's mandatory for all Jews.

[+]applebloom -23 points-22 points-21 points 12 years ago (32 children) | Copy Link

Of course they're people, doesn't mean they can't be given away in marriage.

[–]clockworkgirl21 27 points28 points29 points 12 years ago (31 children) | Copy Link

You can't own another person, so yes, it does.

[+]applebloom -34 points-33 points-32 points 12 years ago (30 children) | Copy Link

You can't own another person,

Prove it.

[–]clockworkgirl21 28 points29 points30 points 12 years ago (29 children) | Copy Link

You'd be okay with giving your wife ownership of you then? How about your boss? Good to know.

[+]applebloom -50 points-49 points-48 points 12 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link

There's a big difference between men and women, one of them is responsibility. Women cannot be trusted with autonomy because they consistently make bad decisions.

Would I be willing to give ownership of myself over to my boss? Sure, but we'd have to draw up a contract first. I have nothing wrong with indentured servitude. However it's different with women, very different, they are biologically predisposed to ownership. That's how they've been for millions of years. Women were always kept as property and were treated as such and thus evolved to be as such. That's why they behave the way they do.

[–][deleted]27 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Women cannot be trusted with autonomy because they consistently make bad decisions.

Prove it.

[–]applebloom-38 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Burden of proof is on you SRS.

[–][deleted]30 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

SRS? And why should burden of proof be on me when it was you who presented the hypothesis?

[–]applebloom-41 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Because your claim is more extraordinary. Mine is supported by thousands of years of written history and culture. You're the one who wants to deviate from the norm.

[–][deleted]26 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Mine is supported by thousands of years of written history and culture.

Prove it.

[–]applebloom-47 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You don't have any defense do you. Just stop now.

[–][deleted]35 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

As I thought. Baseless claims supported by ad hominem and logical fallacies. There are more graceful ways of bowing out of a debate sir.

Do present the insurmountable amount of situations where women were in charge of the decisions to be made and then irrefutably prove they chose the wrong course of action. Furthermore you must also prove that, when put in similar situations, men took the correct decision. Do show why their decisions were correct.

Else stop trying to objectify half of the human population.

[–]applebloom-26 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

There are more graceful ways of bowing out of a debate sir.

Says the person who can't support his position.

Do present the insurmountable amount of situations where women were in charge of the decisions to be made and then irrefutably prove they undertook the wrong course of action.

The burden of proof is on you.

[–][deleted]15 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

It really is not, for reasons I won't bother repeating. Go reread them if you want.

You claim women are incapable of taking correct decisions or are inferior to men in that regard and present no proof. You instead insist it is on the other party to prove you are wrong.

Your argument would hold the same weight had you switched the word women for men. And that is zero. This debate, however is over. I have no patience for dealing with infantile arguments of people whose most brilliant oratory is to put the burden of disproofing their ridiculous claims on the other party. Go prove that we aren't surrounded by invisible, ninja unicorns who actually manipulate the course of our life through generous application of invisible psychotropic substances on our pillows.

[–]applebloom-26 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Just because you don't understand how burden of proof works doesn't mean I'm wrong. If you don't want to have a discussion because you can't defend your argument, fine, but don't act self righteous about it. If you'd like to know more, look at the side bar, I'm not doing your research for you. What I said is not 'ridiculous' but historical fact and common knowledge to anybody who's taken a high school history course.

[–]AliceHouse11 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

In all seriousness, you don't know how burden of proof works. You made the claim, you back it up. Saying "thousands of years of history" and "common knowledge" means nothing. You don't even question the validity of it.

Remember, Christopher Columbus was a man. Who went sailing for one place, and found another. Ching Shi was a woman. Who anihilated the the three largest navies of the world, all ran by men.

But it's ok, applebloom. You might not get your cutie mark in blatant misogyny, but you'll find out who you are someday.

[–]applebloom-7 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You made the claim, you back it up.

That's misplacing the burden of proof, a logical fallacy.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/burden-of-proof.html

Saying "thousands of years of history" and "common knowledge" means nothing.

If you had studied history you'd know this is true. Here's an example of historical writings going back over 2,000 years: http://no-maam.blogspot.ca/2003/01/wrinkle-in-time.html

Here's a more recent observation: http://www.theabsolute.net/misogyny/onwomen.html

Psychologists have noted for over 100 years womens emotional development stops in their teen years (William James, Principles of Psychology).

When the same behavior found in women has been written about for so long and is still being written about today you cannot suddenly claim it's all bullshit. Especially considering research is being done that explains the behavior.

http://www.angryharry.com/Dr-Lewis-Wolpert-The-Differences-Between-Men-And-Women.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroscience_of_gender_differences

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relational_aggression#Gender_differences

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19085605

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/03/28/more-women-have-rape-fantasies-than-previously-thought/

Women consistently make bad decisions, especially in regards to finding a romantic partner (you'll see why after this paragraph). Throughout history parents were involved in finding marriage partners for their children and studies show these usually tend to work out better: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/20/fashion/weddings/parental-involvement-can-help-in-choosing-marriage-partners-experts-say.html?pagewanted=all

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/love-science/201208/arranged-vs-love-based-marriages-in-the-us-how-different-are-they

Women are attracted to masculine men and un-trusting of feminine men: http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19926725.500-chauvinists-less-unnerving-than-ambiguous-men.html

http://www.pop.org/content/androgyny-hoax-1707

Women want men who are already in a relationship: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/apologies-freud/201210/why-women-want-married-men

Women are uniquely susceptible to capture bonding: http://psychology.wikia.com/wiki/Capture-bonding

Women tend to become depressed if they have multiple sexual partners but are quick to forgive men who do: http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/16/health/kerner-hookup-culture

http://www.apa.org/monitor/2013/02/ce-corner.aspx

http://freenortherner.wordpress.com/2013/08/16/the-archetypal-modern-woman/

In hunter gatherer tribes all over the world the wealthy men have harems and the girls couldn't care less. Ancient man never cared about consent, when he wanted sex he took it and women evolved to adapt to it which is why women orgasm during rape and have far more rape fantasies than men.

Over 25% of women in the US are mentally ill: http://www.rooshv.com/25-percent-of-american-women-are-mentally-ill I don't know what this means, for all I know it could be an over-zealous psychiatric industry, but there are certain mental illnesses almost exclusive to women such as Munchhausen's by proxy.

And let's not forget this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybristophilia

Women love 'psychopaths': http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/08/16/chicks-dig-jerks-more-scientific-evidence/

75% of all divorces are initiated by women because they are bored: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/mother-tongue/8739533/Women-and-divorce-Goodbye-darling-youre-just-too-dull....html

Women are unhappy in 'liberated' societies: http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/d007htWomenUnhappy.htm

blatant misogyny

This isn't misogyny. It's science. Men and women are not equal and we should not be treated equally.

http://www.angryharry.com/esEqualityNotAchievable.htm

[–]AliceHouse4 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You visibly upset

[–]Kyouka_Suigetsu3 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Well, you certainly succeeded in making a good argument for eugenics.

[–]mr3wolfmoon3 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Good job at back peddling.

[–]melanogaster1 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I hope you also believe in the bible, it is also supported by thousands of years of written history and culture!

[–]clockworkgirl2114 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Excuse me while I laugh my ass off.

[–]applebloom-2 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Are you going to refute what I said or are you just going to waste space?

[–]clockworkgirl211 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You're using arguments used by people who believed a sneeze was a demon escaping your body. We're done here.

[–]MarlboroMundo2 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Fk it ill give u an upvote

[–]Niggy-Tardust 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Its pretty funny that you're also a racist as well. Its a bit telling when you spend all of your time on Reddit trying to validate your existence at the expense of anyone not straight, white and male.

You are basically the posterchild for the insanely insecure.

[–]applebloom -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Go back to SRS.

[+]TRP1988 -7 points-6 points-5 points 12 years ago (29 children) | Copy Link

Supporting statements like that get this sub mocked and ridiculed.

[–]boner_drone 21 points22 points23 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

People do that anyway no matter what. Why are you afraid of what they might say?

[+][deleted] -6 points-5 points-4 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

THAT is a problematic view. The same principal applies when all the people call someone stupid, he/she thinks that "Fuck it, everyone thinks I'm stupid, might as well be/act stupid"

There's a difference between not giving a fuck what others say/think and actually reinforcing their view.

[–]Max___Power 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Who gives a shit about reinforcing other peoples' views? Other people are retarded

[–]Offensive_Brute 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You have to ignore these image conscious types. their bullshit has ruined /r/mensrights. Now you have to walk on as many eggshells in /r/mensrights as you do anywhere else on reddit. Its leftist politically correct poison.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Cause the sword cuts both ways. If you act like a retard, you become a retard. And if SHIT is posted, reinforcing other peoples' views, the community BECOMES shit.

[–]enticingasthatmaybe 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If I'm acting like someone's dreamed up qualifications of a retard then I'll leave them to their stupidity.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

there is no reputation to maintain. you are a misogynist the second you say something critical about women. so...

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

Do you really care what other people think of us? Why would you? This sub is about The Red Pill, the truth about our behavior in society.

Is it so hard to swallow that culture that is labeled as 'misogynist' by a feminized society would actually have some truth in their actions in how they treat women?

[+]TRP1988 -9 points-8 points-7 points 12 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

Reputation matters.

And I'm not going to support a law like that or come anywhere near to praising Saudi Arabia for their treatment of women.

What is wrong with some of you?

[–]libtardm8 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

reputation matters to YOU ..

If you don't like what someone has said, produce an argument, ignore or downvote and move on. You don't need to have a public sook about it.

[–]enticingasthatmaybe 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

What is wrong with some of you?

The biggest problem you have is that we're immune to shame language. We have no problems.

[–]TRP1988 -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Some of you don't seem to understand the difference between "shaming" used in defense to losing/having no argument and "shaming" because it's deserved.

In your mind, how should I show that I am disgusted by someone's "opinion" without "shaming" them?

[–]enticingasthatmaybe 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

In your mind, how should I show that I am disgusted by someone's "opinion" without "shaming" them?

By successfully refuting it.

"C'mon gais', you need to feel the same way I do! What is wrong with you?" Is not a successful rebuttal.

[–]TRP1988 -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

We're talking about Saudi Arabia....I honestly can't believe I have to offer a refutation.

[–]enticingasthatmaybe 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What is wrong with Saudi Arabia?

[–]TRP1988-1 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You're honestly asking what's wrong with one of the most corrupt and oppressive regimes in the world?

[–]enticingasthatmaybe3 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Yes, prove to me why I should dislike them.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Ahhhhhh shaming. Gotta love it. I smell a troll. This isn't r/mensrights or r/feminismzzz

[–]soapjackal 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm heavily TRP for the same reason I despise religious law, they are not contradictory beliefs. The truth and justice, no matter what.

[–]TRP1988 -3 points-2 points-1 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I may have not been posting on this sub for long, but if you look at my posts it's obvious I'm not a troll. Being new to this sub doesn't mean I'm new to the red pill.

I didn't realize though that on this sub you're considered a troll if you are disgusted by support for a brutal theocratic monarchy that still executes witches, uses corporal punishment on adulterers, and jails rape victims.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring

[–]Offensive_Brute 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I definitely will. Muslims do it right. If it werent for the whole terrorism stigma I would consider converting.

[–]amatorfati 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have Muslim friends. They never speak to me about their faith unless we're deep in friendly conversation or I bring it up. They don't try to convert me. They respect my right to have my beliefs. I respect their right to arrange their lives as they see fit.

Every actual hard-working, spiritual, decent Muslim I meet gives me another reason to convert. Every Muslim I see on TV or the internet applauded by leftists for spitting on the West and making drama makes me hate them all over again.

It's an odd world.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Redditor for 6 days. Yeah...nothing to see here.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

reputation matters? where? at yout job? yes.

in your family? yes

among friends? yes

on reddit among anonymous people you will never meet? NO.

[–]Offensive_Brute 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

people mock and ridicule this sub because we refuse to tow their sociopolitical line. Theres nothing wrong with that.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]Offensive_Brute 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

no there isn't. pussy is a commodity, like a fucking bushel of wheat, a barrel of oil, or an ounce of gold. Gimme some of your commodity, and I'll give you some of mine in exchange. The wife can always rinse hers out and reuse it, but once the food is eaten, its gone forever.

[–]Hormander -3 points-2 points-1 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You can say what you want but Saudis are red pill. I wish we had laws like this.

[–]Offensive_Brute -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree. Muslim culture in general is bad ass. These guys believe what they believe and do what they do and only a few pussies are running around apologizing for it.

[–]fuk_offe 20 points21 points22 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I got tired of commenting these kind of situations really. After a while, you notice that it's pretty much the "norm", shout-out to Briffaults Law. It's so incredibly sad, I felt so bad for that guy. Sigh.

"Honor is a male abstraction."

I don't know the author of this quote (either a RedPiller or a manosphere author), but it stuck with me to this day.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Ask the spirits of the 100 million soldiers killed in the 20th century what their opinion on "honor" is.

Silence is their answer.

[–]Offensive_Brute 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

ask the 500 million crippled ones and theyll start spewing nonsense about what they sacrificed for whose freedoms and shit. All indignant and selfrighteous and shit.

[–]fuk_offe 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Replied to wrong post.

[–]Fukitol13 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I believe that comes from a post on 4chan

[–]fuk_offe 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah yes, the one with the "oldfag" with 15 or so life advices right?

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The only thing worse than reading that would be some of the comments people are providing.

[–]garblegarble12 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I saw this and was about to post myself. Absolutely heartbreaking. Of the genders were reversed the outrage would be immeasurable.

I really hope he has a opportune family and that I err ind myself in a similar position.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What a piece of shit this woman is but hey...

Forget it. I'm not even gonna try to justify that.

[–]SuperNinKenDo 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That was depressing and rage inducing in itself.

Some of the comments though. My God, some of those comment induced such a fire in my mind...

[–]dropit_sphere 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The comments make me want to claw my eyes out.

The best they can do is to tell him he needs some babying. That is the closest the hivemind can get to "This woman has no idea what marriage means."

"Richer or poorer, in sickness and health..."

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Take care of MEEEE, richer or poorer, in sickness and health....

[–]Croc_Chop 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Take care of MEEEE, richer or poorer, in sickness and health....

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Or else I'll no-fault my way out of my obligations while you are forced to keep up yours. Teehee!

[–]redpilldude 31 points32 points33 points 12 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

This was the most thoughtful comment in that thread:

Basically her MIL is dripping poison in her ear, and she is probably going to divorce you.

His wife just sees him as a man who should be financially providing for her. As soon as he was diagnosed with cancer, the wife realized that he might not be able to continue financially providing for her, and the wife became extremely worried. I would be very surprised if they are still married after 6 months.

Moral of the story: do not marry an American woman.

[–][deleted] 33 points34 points35 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Do not marry, period.

[–]Clauderoughly[S] 16 points17 points18 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

That was me :D

yay ! I am insightful !

[–]redpilldude 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

:/ you aren't supposed to vote or comment in linked threads.

[–]dropit_sphere 27 points28 points29 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As the OP who presumably found it through a source other than /r/TRP, he should probably be exempt.

[–]iseeyou1312 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

He'll be dead soon, unfortunately. The 5 year survival rate of testicular choriocarcinoma that has spread is virtually 0.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

She is just going to manipulate him until he's dead. She'll offer the promise of reconciliation on the condition that he gets better but he's got a terminal illness. She's just playing the waiting game and hoping that he dies sooner rather than later.

What he should be doing is getting a divorce. Also changing his will or writing one that does not let his current (possibly ex) wife/widow get control of anything of his. Time to apply the principles of Benefit Denial.

[–]Hajimotto 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I would say he would rewrite his will and give all assets to his child upon the child's 18th birthday. That way the child is provided for and the wife cannot waste his hard earned money on herself because she has already shown herself to be selfish and manipulative.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Better but given the mother is considered the 'guardian' of the child until their 18th birthday they can use that to tap into those assets early in many cases doing exactly what he's trying to prevent by having a will in the first place. Unless he can specify someone to handle his estate other than his wife his wishes will be run over.

[–]Hajimotto 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Darn. I am not a lawyer so I was hoping the idea could be used to have better more legally sound ideas be created. If what I proposed cannot be done then maybe contact a lawyer that knows how to do it.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Definitely needs a lawyer if he were going to go this route. The sad thing is he probably wont. Like I said she'll string him along, cry crocodile tears at his funeral and take everything he worked his whole life to achieving and blow it in a year or two then go looking for some beta bux to support her. We can only hope she'll be so far past the wall at that point no man will fall for her.

[–]Offensive_Brute 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He'll most likely be out before it gets worse, so theres a silver lining at least.

[–]MonkeySteriods 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I don't buy the argument that the MIL is dripping poison in her ear. It is possible that the wife is considering a divorce or cheating/has-already-cheated and told her mother. The MIL balked and she can't tell the husband about the context without revealing her motives.

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[–]Offensive_Brute 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

seems like mental issues are in her genes.

[–]TRP Vanguardss_camaro 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

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I (32M), diagnosed with aggressive testicular cancer. Wife (31F) says she won't live in the same place as me during chemo

My wife and I have a 2 year old. We've been together for over four years. Everything was great until she got pregnant. Afterwards she suffered from post natal depression. We have been in counseling. Things had improved immeasurably, there was still more ground to cover though. Her mother lived on the same property in a self contained flat. She had been a very dominating and controlling influence in her life. I did not understand its extent until after I invited her to live with us. She had been ignoring both us and our child for months and also stopped paying rent. She would run away from me when I tried to talk to her. It became impossible. I was shocked and very sad at this.

I was diagnosed with a testicular tumour that may be cancerous (it was) right as the conflict with my wife's mother peaked. The day I needed my testicle removed, her mother said something terrible to her, so bad that she still hasn't told me. I stayed as strong as I could that day but late that evening she began to cry about her mother. It was past our child's bedtime and I didn't have the ability to support her, I was in too much pain. She got more upset and began to shout that I was kicking her out. I told her I just needed rest. The nurses came in after she left and comforted me. That night I texted her mother, as she doesn't answer my calls. I told her she had to leave.

She moved out and locked the doors and took the keys. It took a while to get in, but when we did we saw she had left all of my wife's childhood mementos that her mother had collected over the years. She wrote a very bitter letter to my wife. She didn't let me read it. I helped my wife as much as I could during this time. I held her, I listened to her, I gave her all the love I could. My mind was on cancer admittedly, but I know I was there for her.

Since then, although she agreed that she had to go, my wife had been struggling. She didn't ever want to talk to me about it, what was said. Since then, my cancer has been discovered to have spread to my lymph nodes. I am to start a 4 round course of chemo, starting with a 6 night stay.

Since my testicle was removed, I have become more tired, I can't think properly. Sometimes I get upset. When my wife gets upset or shouts at me, I get angry. I know my hormones are unbalanced and my wife knows this too. The stress of all of this is hard on us, but she occasionally takes things out on me. I get upset, then I get angry.

When I get angry, I try and move away from her I tell her I need space, I need to be alone. At these times she will follow me through the house, sometimes shouting. She will carry our child. He watches us fight.I beg her to stop, to go away. She will stand and shout or bang on the door I'm on the other side of. It's too much for me to bear.

Recently, we fought again. This time, our child was asleep. She told me she couldn't let our child witness my anger, my rage. She thought I would be better off moving closer to the hospital and hire a carer. When I was finished chemo, in three months, and had time to heal, we could be together again. She would bring our child to visit.

I couldn't believe what I was hearing. I need my family, I love my wife, I love my child.I know it's hard on her to have her mother move out, but I never imagined that she would not be by my side during chemo.

I was so upset. I started shouting, so did she. I broke down on the floor, she stood and watched. She said I would never beat cancer like this. I was horrified. She had become so cold. I tried to hold her hand, I told her my body is dying. I can feel the tumour in my lower back, I can feel it grow. I need you, I need my family. I can't do this without you.

She pulled her hand away and I carried on pleading. She yelled that I was hurting her. I didn't know what she meant and realised she was really pulling on her hand and I was clutching desperately onto it. She said I was being violent and it was proof she can't let our child around me. I ran into a room and slammed the door, she swung it open and carried on shouting. I pushed her out and slammed the door shut. I could hear her rant about domestic abuse and I completely broke down.

I can't do this without her. I am fighting choriocarcinoma which doesn't have the usual stellar 5 year survival rate expected from testicular cancer. I know my anger is caused by hormones and triggered by shouting. There's so much stress in my life and it's really peaking. I have support from my friends but without my wife and child in the same home as me, I think I'm lost.

I do not want to leave her, I don't want her to leave me. I want to keep my family together. How do I convince her to stay with me and see this through with me?

tl;dr: Wife and I have been together four years, have one 2 year old. MIL lives with us. My wife is very dependent on her. She treats my family like crap, then stops paying rent, gets evicted by me. Wife accepts this, but finds it hard. I then get diagnosed with aggressive testicular cancer, need one ball removed and then four rounds of intense chemo. My hormones are imbalanced, I become less patient and more prone to anger, but only when anger is directed to me. Wife wants me to move out for my entire course of chemotherapy, three months. I can't do this without her support. I need to know how I can convince her to stay.

"MILs" should not exist, because "marriage" should not "legally" exist. FB mothers are usually possessive, alpha-maRe psychos that negatively influence everyone around them: Toxic, utterly useless instigators and shit-stirrers. Learn from this man's mistake. Never let them into your world. AWALT.

[–]mechakingghidorah 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What's an FB mother?

[–]Lungri 34 points35 points36 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The overwhelming majority of women in today's West have no concept of honor or loyalty—life is just one giant hamster wheel for them.

[–]pro_skub 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Reminds me of my crazy, cold-hearted ex. Luckily I opened my eyes soon enough.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Does anyone else think that this is not going to end well for the OP? As in she's probably going to divorce him, take all his money and he won't have much left to continue treatment. Or perhaps he will have enough and complete his last rounds of chemo but end up being broke in the end. Even better, she uses his anger as an excuse to get him arrested.

[–]Offensive_Brute 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its not gonna end well for OP because hes probably going to die of cancer soon. Probably before any of that other shit happens.

[–]jakethesnake76 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow, that guy must be so lucky, I wish I were him at the moment :) maybe one day I'll date someone too and my life will change :)

This loner was the top commenter , as long as there are sheep to shear out there, women can live this crazy life and then CHANGE when they hit the wall (until she drives him nuts) and he winds up on TRP.

[–]thewrightstuff88 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Not to mention having one testicle removed, physically, literally taking away the source of hormones (such as testosterone), that can influence the (masculine, alpha like) decisions you make. Even with supplements, I can't imagine it having the exact same effect as natural test production

[–]Max___Power 19 points20 points21 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Actually the remaining testicle doubles production to achieve dat homeostasis.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/male-hypogonadism/DS00300/DSECTION=causes

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thats why you have a backup.

[–]fragglemook 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

That situation does not warrant red pill analysis. That is a couple facing death. The child may have a genetic disposition to cancer too. The wife probably knows the odds of his survival and now she knows she's going to have a hard time bringing up her child on her own.

Women after all do look to the man for survival value.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

And this is why most bitches don't deserve marriage. They're not ride or die they're in a solipsistic me me it's all about me, only respect the most alpha male sexxing up me kinda mentality. It's sickening. I wouldn't marry a chick who didn't have my back when I need her fuck that and fuck these disloyal branch swinging hoes craving a firm hand over all else. Nobody is constantly strong ladies you're deluded in that expectation. A good wife supports her man in his hours of need, which is why most of u will die alone. Sickening post. People justifying for this cunt-ho needa get the fuck outta trp.

[–]TRP Vanguardss_camaro 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Your winning? They're on your side.

Your losing? They're fuckin' gone.

Don't buy Hollywood myths.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Word this needs chiseling in stone.

[–]Offensive_Brute 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

People can say what they want, but my folks did it right. I was 14 when they got hitched. They already knew the fuck out of eachother.

[–]Offensive_Brute -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm more concerned about the childs genetic predisposition to being a fucking cunt like its mother and grandmother.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The real question we should be asking is: why, after getting his cancer diagnosis, didn't he go cook crystal meth?

Very tragic story, though. I wish him the best.

[–]slippery_people1 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Just sickening. Marriage isn't welfare for women, the benefits/burdens flow both ways.

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