How do you feel about someone trying to look good (as we are told we should) but look significantly different without makeup?

wymone · 2019-09-13T03:08:47+00:00

From the perspective of someone who is into makeup and can easily tell when someone is wearing it: Doesn’t matter at all. If I saw someone in real life with dramatic highlight and contour, would I think they look silly? Yes. Would I think they are lying or cheating? No. Keep in mind that what you see on IG is not representative of what you see IRL. A person caked in makeup IRL will look like a person caked in makeup. In photos, lighting and filters can fool you.

allmycatsaregay · 2019-09-13T02:35:03+00:00

Use makeup to enhance your natural beauty, not to change how you look.

imanewwoman · 2019-09-13T07:20:25+00:00

I’m a professional makeup artist. I love makeup and I don’t consider my face the prettiest and I’m always tempted to contour heavily, but I only do if I’m going for example to a night party.

I think the key is to see makeup as an improved version of a real human being. For example: - Using colors that may actually exist in a human body such as muted pinks, browns, and subtle peach, red (avoid fucsia, blue, bright pink, and if you wear red lips don’t do your eyes too dark). - Don’t wear too fluffy, too dark, or too long lashes. If you like them fluffy, it’s better if they’re not too long. If you like them long, its better if you wear thin-haired ones. - If you want to reshape or accentuate your eyes you can do it with eyeshadows (browns if you’re white/olive or some black if you’re black). I have found that in most people, doing eyeliner with eyeshadow looks better than pencil (especially black). - Don’t do too rigid eyebrows, they look fake. - Don’t exaggerate with countouring. I know it might be tempting when you don’t like some features but it really might backlash. And lots of people DO notice excessive contouring.

Of course in makeup there are no rules. These are general tips that work for most people. It also depends on facial features (very pretty women can get away with much more makeup wackiness), personal style and especially makeup skills.

For day to day or work meetings it is better to keep your makeup moderate, at least making it look like so.

For first dates I ONLY do “natural” makeup looks. I try to keep is as minimal as possible because I don’t want to seem like I’m trying to hide something or that I’m trying TOO hard. I’d rather like to know if the guy actually likes ME and not an altered version of myself, because he would eventually see the naked me if things go well!

As dates go by, I might drop some more elaborated looks, and see men’d reactions, which in my experience have always been positive because I try to balance things out. For example if I wear bright lips, most likely eyes will be neutral. If i wear a pop of color or black smokey eyes, I usually combine it with nude lips.

My exes have actually enjoyed my “transformations”. I think they also saw it as a game/costume, just like I do! Makeup is supposed to be fun, not a way of hiding/manipulating!

Fun fact: One of my exes actually asked me to he his girlfriend and kissed my whole face passionately while I had a full face glow-in-the-dark skull makeup and schoolgirl costume. I was definitely the freakiest person at that party, and he - one of the most traditional guys I have dated - told me I was particularly hot that night, several times. And he actually meant it. So I really think there’s something for every type of person out there!

musingsfromthepast · 2019-09-13T19:33:58+00:00

Before, I had the same thoughts as you because I look much better with makeup, as all women do. I used to wear light make up so that I wouldn’t "decieve" a man into thinking that I am a completely different person without makeup.

Then I noticed that many girls around me who had met guys and later married them, all used heavier makeup. The girls on Instagram who guys are drooling over also use a lot of makeup. Many of these girls look mediocre without makeup, but their partners have seen them without makeup and yet they chose to continue seeing them and eventually marrying them.

Instead of seeing makeup as a tool of decievement, I began to see it as a tool for attraction. Makeup makes me more attractive and increases the number of men who are physically attracted to me.

The important thing is that you have something to offer other than a made up face. It is the exterior that captures men's interest, but is is the interior that makes them want to stay with you.

I think many men "accept" how you look without makeup once they get to know you in depth and form a connection with you. I notice a big difference in the number of men who look at me when I have light makeup vs when for example wearing fake eyelashes. I know I'm average looking without makeup, but so are many Instagram girls and celebrities. Everyone else is using makeup to their advantage, so why shouldn’t I?

I also don’t see makeup as a way of decieving men since a man is not ONLY attracted to how flawless your skin looks with foundation or how long your eyelashes are. They see the whole package and parts of you that you can’t change with makeup. They see your face shape, the distance between your eyes, nose and lips, your hair length and color, your waist, your hips etc. And also of course who you are as a person. This is especially true if he is looking for a serious relationship. If a man likes your overall looks and personality, makeup isn’t going to change how he feels about you.

The key is to not letting him see you without makeup until you have formed a deeper connection to him. It is up to you to decide how deep the connection has to be before you are comfortable knowing he likes you for you and not for your makeup.

melitele3 · 2019-09-13T09:08:58+00:00

To be honest I don’t see it as a problem. If your makeup is done well, meticulous and doesn’t look “ghetto” with horribly glued spider eyelashes etc. you are good. I don’t think it is lying or cheating. Everyone can see you are wearing makeup.

I don’t think everything has to be natural. Natural isn’t always the most aesthetic and not everyone looks attractive naturally. I think it is the skills you have with applying your makeup that are important.

I go for natural look because it is quick to do before work and I am okay with the way I look with just a bit of mascara and lipstick. I know that other women look better in more makeup though and if they have time and motivation they should go for it.

WhatIsThisAccountFor · 2019-09-14T17:52:23+00:00

I think the best way to look at it is to ask yourself this: would you be fine with your potential boyfriend seeing you without makeup or not? If the answer is no then you’re probably doing too much with your makeup.

artemis286 · 2019-09-15T12:02:54+00:00

To each their own. One of the things that attracted my husband to me was the fact that I never wore heavy makeup, and only wore a moderate amount for special occasions. On a regular day, it was mascara only, and I often went all natural. I still dressed well, did my hair, and took care of my appearance. But makeup never appealed to me for many reasons.

First, I didn't like feeling like I had to "put my face on". I wanted to feel comfortable in my own skin, and it was important to me that the men that I dated fell in love with how I actually looked. Two, it's expensive. Three, it has a crap of ingredients that I'm not comfortable using on my skin in a regular basis. Four, it's time consuming, and inconvient. I lived in Florida when I met my husband, so water activities were a regular occurance. On top of humidity and sweating, and active games we played with our church group. The girls who had to worry about sweating their makeup off defintely didn't appeal to my husband.

I don't think heavy makeup is required to be feminine at all. But those were my feelings on the matter, and I attracted a man who has similar feelings. My husband loves that I don't wear makeup on a regular basis, but still look great and take care of myself.

But I know plenty of wives who do wear makeup on a regular basis, and their husband's have no issue with it. So if you're the type of girl who enjoys wearing makeup for any variety of reasons, you'll want to date men who have the same values as you. I don't think girls who wear makeup regularly are being deceitful, but I do personally see an issue when a woman literally can't function without makeup and is scared of anyone seeing her. That just seems unhealthy to me. But that's just my two cents.

vintagegirlgame · 2019-09-16T21:53:59+00:00

The only opinions that matter here are yours and your future husband’s. Men have a variety of opinions about makeup too. Some like you to be dolled up, some don’t care as long as you’re happy, others will have strong opinions about not wearing too much. Your future husband and you should be somewhat compatible or willing to compromise in tastes here.

But even “too much” makeup won’t stop a “natural” man from being initially attracted to you. If you start dating more he might ask you to wear less or mention how you don’t need makeup to be pretty. And as long as your comfortable with that then you two will be compatible. If he prefers natural but you refuse to tone down your look, it will eventually make him see you as clinging to fake appearances and could result in a loss of attraction. This goes beyond superficial painted faces, but has more to do with your self confidence and esteem with your natural face.

Remember that men love variety so if he’s used to your natural face and then you crank up the vavoom factor once in awhile it could add some sparks. If you love lots of makeup and creating different looks you could use this to your advantage and work the appeal of different types of femininity to keep things fresh.

pearlsandstilettos · 2019-09-13T01:29:10+00:00

This question belongs on askmen not RPW.

TheTyke · 2019-09-15T21:47:18+00:00

Are you asking from the perspective of how a man you want a relationship may see it or how other women see it?

Gerealtor · 2019-09-17T16:34:43+00:00

I'd say it depends on what kind of man you're looking for and what kind of "basis" you have underneath the makeup. I wear no makeup for the most part, but when I do it's mascara and some lip+cheek tint. If im having skin issues, I prefer to work on my skin instead of covering with foundation and that kind of thing. Bad skin is usually the number one thing people get freaked out about in those "the power of makeup" images. Some guys do like a makeuppy look, but not most and definitely not most of high value/socioeconomic background. They do however tend to prefer a girl who wears a little makeup over a girl with none because it isnt a massive "coverup", but it also makes you look like you take some pride in a feminine look. My biggest DONTS with makeup tend to be drawn on brows, heavy skin makeup and false lashes. The first and last is embarrassingly different when you take it off and the skin one is generally noticable and unnatractive to most guys (though they won't tell you).

crystalballon · 2019-09-19T00:59:25+00:00

I am someone who likes to wear extreme makeup one day and no makeup the next. People definetly notice when I do. I go from no makeup to goth to natural to extremely colorful and I like it that way. I do what I feel like. When I was younger I would feel like people would judge me about it or think I was trying too hard, but honestly, most people don’t give a shit how you look. Do what you want, wear what makes you feel good and confident. Abandon the rules! I love that I can decide wheter I want a lot of attention that day. Like sometimes I want to shine and be all glossy and other times I just want to go in ten seconds and not care about how I look and that’s totally fine as long as you feel good doing it. Also I love the comments of people who find my extreme makeup amazing!

Title	How do you feel about someone trying to look good (as we are told we should) but look significantly different without makeup?
Author	lilasbaby2
Upvotes	13
Comments	21
Date	September 13, 2019 1:10 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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