In defense of Chad and women's sexual preference.

BigMadLad · 2019-01-31T06:38:39+00:00

Chads get rejected too, but they handle it like men. They forget about that girl and move on to the next one.

Because Chads can get reject and move on they level up their dating skills faster than regular guys

They move on because they have all the options to move on to. Most TRP dudes don't move on because its like going to a car dealer where they are only allow to inquire about 1 car, and the salesman can even choose if he wants to hear the guy out on why he wants to buy the car. That level of desperation leads to men trying to "get her back" rather than moving on, unless you are chad and so have the luxury of moving on

Chads play sports which allow them to form social bonds with other men in the real world; This prevents them from being socially awkward

Many TRP people play sports, including me. In fact, you could say I am good at them. It seems you are projecting on red pillers and are assuming they are all NEET and therefor incels. TRP =/= Incels, correlation =/= causation. This was evident when you said "Unless you have a gamer girl". Stop it. You know damn well you are stereotyping, and in fact many Red Pill dudes have "real life" adventures, so that point is invalid.

Chad can be a real nice guy. Nice is a prerequisite for dating, and if that's your main selling point you being nice you are a boring guy.

Chad can be nice and a little cheeky, This is good because women are people they don't want to be worshiped.

Chad is not afraid to disagree with his lover which makes the relationship more exciting

Chad can be nice because women can't separate personality from looks. Have you not seen the recent post about the OKCupid study where personality rating and looks rating for men where extremely correlated? Chad can be "nice" because he's hot, and therefor niceness is recognized. If you are not hot, its seen as boring. Same level of niceness and personality, just women can't separate the two and so Chad gets seen as a better person when in reality hes just the same as non-Chads. Same goes for disagreement, non-Chads disagree, but if they are ugly its seen as disrespectful but if they are Chad its seen as "confidence and taking command". Clear and obvious double standard and Chad does not deserve to be thought of as a nice person.

"some men got lucky and got good genes so it's easy for them" my retort life's not fair some women will be born ugly and only be sought out by low-quality men for easy sex

With hypergamy the balance is thrown off. This would not be an issue if those ugly women actually got with ugly men. But, Chad tries to get with all women and so women literally cannot be an incel or in my opinion with TRP. A reddit for "female incels" banned dating requests because they literally were flooded with men who wanted to date them. Its different for men, we don't get guaranteed sex. Therefor TRP and Incel men are unique in that aspect. Don't equate ugly women with ugly men as ugly women can still get most men they want.

"Chads cheat and beat their women" These traits are not exclusive to Chad. MrDEADMoth a gamer was seen on a live stream hitting his pregnant wife. My point is anyone can be a shitty person.

This is literally cherry-picking one case to make a larger claim, which is a logical fallacy. The vast majority of domestic abuse cases come from those who can get women and have power over them, i.e. Chads. You are using one case to represent your entire argument and straw-manning the streamer to make him a TRP follower. Video gaming is not counter to being a chad. You can be a chad and still play video games. In fact, I would say hes a chad because if he was abusing her that way for a while (assuming that because no one randomly does that out of the blue) and he still got her pregnant he must have been pretty successful with women. This was a grasp at an example, and a logically flawed one at that.

Red pills who get mad at women for liking chads are no better than Trans people who get mad when people say they would not date a trans person. Women have a sexual preference and if you're not what they want that's a personal problem not a problem with chads or women as a whole.

Vastly different situation. One involves massive cultural stigma and history of condemnation from major religions if one dates them, the other case is that men are just ugly. This is straw-man at its finest, as you literally equate ugly men (not talked about in the news at all except when violence occurs) and their dating prospects, to people saying to go against values and religious tradition for them. There is no religion saying being with an ugly person is a sin, and while there may be light social stigma it is nothing compared to people knowing you are dating a trans person. There is no larger societal barrier for women to not date non-chads, its just women using the "I don't feel good next to them" card as an excuse to become a roastie.

All of these critiques are showcasing a larger theme: Chads do NOT deserve the women they get because women are flawed at judging value and character. The OKCupid study shows this, and so essentially Chads get away with scamming women that they are better for them when they will just use and abuse. I don't blame chads because its in men's nature to hit and quit (as seen in the vast majority of males in mammal species), where as women should be able to tell when Chads want to and say no, but they can't. So, they don't deserve the women they get because they are not much better than TRP men.

blackedoutfast · 2019-01-31T19:54:32+00:00

real RPers don't hate Chad. Chad is a role model. pretty much the whole goal of RP is to become a Chad yourself. Chad is RP personified, so if a Chad gets a lot of hot girls, it just proves the validity of RP.

it's incels and bluepill betas who hate Chads. they get butthurt because Chad swoops in and steals the girl they were crushing on and orbiting.

Gravel_Roads · 2019-01-31T06:41:39+00:00

I mean, I’d sure fuck Chad before any of these incel losers. At least he’s fun.

Zippo-Cat · 2019-01-31T16:10:34+00:00

Chad, above all else, is two things: tall and handsome. That is what's giving him his power in SMP(and life in general), not his "real life stories" or visible abs.

How many men are handsome and tall? Not many. How hard it is for non-handsome non-tall men to become handsome tall men? For handsome you're looking at extremely expensive plastic surgery. For tall there's nothing. Don't even fucking mention limb lengthening.

I noticed Red pills have deal breakers for women like fat, feminist, has a kid

So now for comparison, how hard is it for a woman to not be fat, not be a female supremacist, and not expecting the partner to take care of someone else's child?

whitetrashcarl · 2019-01-31T06:12:30+00:00

Id argue that most of those guys aren’t chasing the ultra fit and social Stacey’s, they are chasing some cute unfit normie girl who is probably about as fit, social, and nice as they are.

Unfortunately for them , hypergamy, and that cute lil girl thinks she’s wayyyy better than that

sandal_on · 2019-02-03T03:31:26+00:00

Many men don't hate women's preference, no, they hate how a bad deal they get with women who think think average men should consider themselves lucky to even married a provider. Since all relationships are transactional, and anyone who denies it, is just projecting an ego defence mechanism to not realize how shallow they are.

Let's dive into the example.

Many men operate from the old programming where they show how good of a provider they are and thus are stable partners to have children with to take care of you in old age, since it was that which mattered in hunter gatherer tribe societies. There was no pension back then. Many men still operate in that way today.

Bill is "beta" and average guy. Home, job, okayish car. Not ugly or attractive, in the middle. He is in his early twenties.

Bill sees Greta. Greta is also an average girl in her prime years. Bill courts to Greta and shows that he will not abuse her, be loyal and provide for her. Here, Bill has value and Greta has also value (her youth and her not riding the cock carousel, yet)

Greta rejects Bill and goes for Chad who treats her like shits. This sub communicates to Bill (and everyone) that Greta has a low value and thus gets pumped and dumped. This shows lack of intelligence and stability which results in disgust towards Greta because of her actions.

When Greta grows to certain age where she is no longer attractive to Chad, or/and her friends starts having children in relationships, she seeks out Bill for a relationship.

Now let's assume as about the majority of men, that Bill has somewhat improved his economical situation and owns a better car, has a better job ect.

Now when Greta mets Bill, and he is wise enough to learned from other people's mistakes, he will understand that:
1. Greta wasted her youth and her innocence. (-1)

Greta wasted it for short term pleasure and fun. Shows irresponsibility and instability. (-1)
Because of being pumped and dumped, it has also ruined her pair bonding and she will never truly love him because of the cock carousel. (-1)
She won't enjoy sex with him and will use it against him. (-1)
She won't do certain stuff she would do for Chad. (-1)
She is unrealistically entitled and thinks Bill should consider himself lucky to have an opportunity with her, despite her degraded sexual market value, disregarding anything not in her favour. (-1)
She is more likely to divorce and take his wealth from him . (-1)

Totally -7 points since Greta chose to ride th CC instead of settling down with Bill in her early twenties. Now Greta considers all Billies to even be lucky for them to be with her, which itself is an direct insult to most average aware men. And when people are insulted, they naturally insult back.

YetAnotherCommenter · 2019-01-31T08:58:12+00:00

But... who exactly is saying that women are morally wrong for going after Chads? You don't have to justify your sexual preferences!

They're complaining that you're going after Chad but not saying you cannot or "should" not. Sex is NOT distributed according to moral virtue.

My argument is Chad deserves to get more girls

And you're just doing the same thing... trying to square the distribution of sex with some sort of concept of moral goodness or deservingness.

But no, we don't live in a Just Sexual World. Yes, some TRPers complain about that, and complain about being sexually disenfranchised, but they aren't trying to further the pretense that this world is sexually just in any way. They aren't claiming you have to distribute your sex according to ethics.

mathlel · 2019-01-31T11:38:32+00:00

Chad doesn't work out in the gym. Beta nerds and omegas that read reddit and are obsessed with self improvement go to gym. Chad doesn't give a fuck and if he goes to the gym he is curling for sick arm gains that bitches love.

Stevefr0mYellowstone · 2019-01-31T18:03:00+00:00

My argument would be that someone isn't really red pill if they get upset at women being attracted to Chad. Getting mad at that is still a blue pill mentality. If you are truly red pill, you accept reality as it is. Women are more attracted to Chad. Women find 80% of the male population invisible when it comes to the sexual marketplace. Those are facts. You're not truly red pilled until you accept them, unemotionally, as fact.

chubby_leenock_hugs · 2019-01-31T06:11:37+00:00

women are naturally attracted to athletic men with abs.

Even if they culturally are they sure as hell aren't "naturally". The "reduce body fat to accentuate muscles"-look is a fairly recent cultural innovation.

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Whodunnit88 · 2019-01-31T06:50:43+00:00

I always thought that a Chad was a man who had "it". Some unmistakable aura that enabled him to sleep with many women (if he so choose to).

I've never understood the "it" that Chad has, and I probably never will. And I doubt that any woman will be able to explain the "it" factor of Chad in any satisfactory way.

Zero_The-Hero · 2019-01-31T19:52:53+00:00

Look dude I know from experience did women find me attractive yes but In the beginning I couldn’t hold a conversation to save my life so I messed up with some really nice girls you wanna get better put the time in. And stop bitching about other men

[deleted] · 2019-02-03T23:32:33+00:00

Where is your proof of any of these claims

Zero_The-Hero · 2019-01-31T22:47:05+00:00

Go fuck Chad. Nobody's stopping you.

mistercheeez-o____O- · 2019-01-31T14:06:18+00:00

None of this is true.

Title	In defense of Chad and women's sexual preference.
Author	Zero_The-Hero
Upvotes	3
Comments	144
Date	January 31, 2019 5:58 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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