Q4RP: is it possible to have a feminist mindset but a RP relationship?

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2018-07-22T13:55:02+00:00

I dont know or care about the feminist part but i can tell you to read the surrendered wife and proper care and feeding of husbands.

Apparently everything a woman does now is feminist so go for it

Edit: none of your political stuff in the first paragraph matters to the "how you treat your husband part"

i_have_a_semicolon · 2018-07-22T15:34:24+00:00

I have never been a registered member of any political party; I work in a demanding field that is vastly majority male (no, not engineering); I have been the breadwinner for my entire marriage. It is entirely possible for all these things to co-exist with not being a shrill cunt who runs straight over her husband like an Abrams tank.

You may find this interesting. There is no one-size-fits-all "redpill" relationship.

nonnimoose · 2018-07-22T13:23:08+00:00

Yes

Edited to add: missed the part about your belief that rape culture is a problem in western society. If your husband indulges you with discussion that supports this s belief, then no.

nomansweb · 2018-07-22T13:45:06+00:00

I'm left wing (especially by American standards), but I lean purple. Alt-right/conservative people don't own these ideas, and you can be left wing without being a radical feminist.

lucky_beast · 2018-07-22T13:16:24+00:00

What do you mean by feminist? If you think women are democratically equal to men and should have the same opportunities as men, sure. If you think women are the same as men and should have the same outcomes as men, you're gonna have a bad time.

politically I'm left wing, support LGBT rights

Neither of these are incompatible with the general idea of trp although I'm sure many on the sub would disagree.

we generally have a problem in western societies with rape culture

RAINN might disagree with you, but I bet they're amateurs compared to tumblr.

nokanjaijo · 2018-07-22T16:22:41+00:00

Of course. I used to comment on articles in the Seattle paper The Stranger which leans very left. There are women who comment there with RP type relationships and nobody even argues with them about it. Its just how they want to live. Why woukd we care.

It's if you start with all this, "This is how it's supposed to be for everybody and i know this for a fact because ive read a bunch of just-so-stories on blogs," that people on the left are going to start debating you all the time.

teaandtalk · 2018-07-23T06:55:24+00:00

Of course. My "RPness" extends to my husband, and that is it. I'm a type A engineer ex-slut with a group of leftie queers for friends. There's always going to plenty of cross-over with the tradcon crowd, but the way you treat your husband and run your romantic life doesn't have to have anything to do with politics.

GayLubeOil · 2018-07-22T15:13:21+00:00

Well first of all I would say that according to the Red Pill doctrine of War Brides it's possible for women to hold concurrent contradictory beliefs at the same time. So for example a woman can love her farmer husband and the barbarian marrader who killed him. Have kids with both. Love both and raise their children lovingly. That's how the female psyche works. It's a biological adaptation.

So yea. You do you guuuurl!

Also according to Red Pill Dogma you'll probably conform to the political leanings of the closest Alpha.

So if you fell in live with a dip chewing boot stomping alpha ud forget about all of these values.

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blackedoutfast · 2018-07-22T17:51:45+00:00

that's how it starts. you see yourself as a good person, you're liberal and feminist and support LGBT and all those good things. you're educated and pretty knowledgeable about how the world works. you stay informed by regularly watching CNN and listening to NPR and reading articles and posts on intelligent websites.

and at some point you came across this infamous "red pill" stuff. and you know it's bad and terrible and wrong because people you trust have told you it's bad and terrible and wrong. but you're a curious person. instead of instantly averting your eyes from the Very Bad Thing like most people, you started to look into it. you started reading. probably at first just for a lark, so you could laugh at the ridiculousness of it, or to know exactly why it's so bad and terrible and wrong. and a lot of what you read does sound crazy. but some of it kinda makes sense in a weird way. some of it IS bad, but some of it seems relatively harmless or even good advice.

so now you'll start trying out some of the good parts of RP in your own life. and it will make a huge difference. then you'll start wondering why RP ideas are so controversial even though they are obviously the truth and would be beneficial for most people to be exposed to. then you'll start wondering why these relatively innocuous ideas are being suppressed. you'll start wondering exactly who it is trying to keep this knowledge hidden. and you'll start wondering what other knowledge they're also hiding from you.

all this sex and relationship stuff is just the gateway redpill to the real redpills. you have no idea how deep the rabbit hole goes. but you're going to find out.

2018-07-22T18:49:32+00:00

I think this depends on what brand of feminism you're aligned with. Feminism at it's core is simply allowing women to live however they choose without being forced or coerced by patriarchal standards. This would include a "traditional" marriage or even a hardcore sub/dom arrangement.

My mother identifies as a "radical" feminist but is still very hyper feminine in many traditional ways. I don't think she needs to give that up to maintain her political beliefs.

That said, both TRP and feminism are nothing but a collection of opinions by individuals. Your opinion is just as valid as anyone else's. If you want to be a red pilled feminist, you can do that.

Willow-girl · 2018-07-22T19:03:05+00:00

I work; I've always worked and enjoy working. But at the same time, I recognize that most men aren't going to be willing to do traditional female tasks just because I enjoy being a breadwinner. Luckily I stumbled upon a non-career-track part-time job that I enjoy very much, and can make enough on the side by investing to be comfortable. Best of both worlds!

Pope_Lucious · 2018-07-22T20:09:57+00:00

Your stance on political issues doesn’t need to affect the relationship dynamic between you and your husband.

ppdthrowawai · 2018-07-22T20:55:54+00:00

Although my SO is fairly conservative, I've dated several very liberal women and it's never been a problem. Posters here act like you have to be some traditionalist conservative to enjoy a masculine man with conviction and no patience for bullshit. In my experience, all women like a man that takes charge and isn't ashamed of his own masculinity, especially the feminists.

Most married liberal women I know who are wishing for a little more "RP" if you will have a meek, people pleaser type of husband who is easily content with mediocrity. They love their couch and Netflix, flabby nonjudgmental wives, and accepting noncontraversial opinions of the world. There's wrong with wanting a man who has that testosterone driven motivation to take what he wants out of life.

newName543456 · 2018-07-22T21:54:46+00:00

If you're a guy, there is no such thing as RP marriage, at least not in the West, when divorce can screw you sideways. You play a losing game and it doesn't matter what sort of game you talk when push comes to shove.

If you're a woman, going for marriage is already all the RP you need, as you know you benefit.

Dunno about other cultures.

KikiYuyu · 2018-07-23T21:40:43+00:00

Depends on what you mean by feminist. Do you mean feminist as in "women and men should be treated as equals" or feminst as in SJW female supremacist?

2018-07-27T15:09:45+00:00

My fiance and I are registered Democrats. I am bisexual and my daughter is gay. Learning about the whole Red Pill thing started us all away from embracing feminism but politically we are still a mash up of conservative and liberal views. I have not found the women's red pill communities to be particularly political but I bet you would get hung out to dry if you told a feminist group you really want your husband to lead your family...the red pill folks won't toss you if you voted Hillary but wanting a red pill relationship makes you a traitor to feminism...

2018-07-22T14:47:10+00:00

left wing, support LGBT rights, and feel that we generally have a problem in western societies with rape culture.

TRP has no problem with anything here. TRP is not a religion or a ideology but a knowledge and a tool. It does not care who you are. If you are careful enough.

sadomasochrist · 2018-07-22T15:12:43+00:00

Doubtful. There are underlying value system conflicts. That would manifest as a thousand micro conflicts that I'm sure you'd need some way to resolve.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2018-07-22T13:14:45+00:00

The more I read MRP/RP wives, the more I feel my marriage would benefit from a more RP stance. But politically I'm left wing, support LGBT rights, and feel that we generally have a problem in western societies with rape culture.

This OP smacks of a passive aggressive tone where the poster will try to find what they call a "middle ground" to equal rights and toxic masculinity.

Title	Q4RP: is it possible to have a feminist mindset but a RP relationship?
Author	Hdhdjjduufjndjidjdfj
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Date	July 22, 2018 1:05 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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