[Q4All] why dont women police themselves?

PPD-Angel · 2018-04-09T15:53:40+00:00

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DemonConsulting · 2018-04-09T16:40:26+00:00

... Have you met women? They police eachother all the time over the pettiest shit, it just depends on what the in group's status quo is and it's usually done through passive aggressive shaming/ shunning, not open confrontation.

But yeah depending on your social cycle, you will be policed and judged on not only your actions (like being too promiscuous our too prude, talking to the wrong person, disagreeing with the wrong woman) but also what clothes you're wearing, what car you drive and especially what men you date/fuck/marry (can't be low status losers, can't be ugly, can't be too passive or too aggressive or you're either a dominant bitch or a doormat who lets herself get abused, etc.)

The thing is “women“ aren't a monolith. UMC housewives will judge you for different things than single moms in the inner city or a trailer park, middle aged conservative Christians will more likely judge you for being too promiscuous, marrying late or not at all, etc. while liberal college students in the city will judge you for settleing down too young instead (not “enjoying your youth“ and “finding yourself“), for conforming to gender roles, or god forbid being submissive outside the bedroom.

goatismycopilot · 2018-04-09T15:47:20+00:00

They do, all the time. The feminist movement is full of woker-than-thou infighting.

They just probably aren't policing each other over the things you think they should be.

(Although, if you think women don't tell each other to dump shitty men idk what to tell you.)

MyPasswordisPutin · 2018-04-09T17:36:23+00:00

Have you met women??

goatismycopilot · 2018-04-09T15:35:09+00:00

It depends on the context. I have seen people in my social groups tell one another to stop dating loser men but it usually does not get heeded. And if my friends are happy dating bad men it only impacts me if they want to waste my time talking about it forever.

[deleted] · 2018-04-09T15:40:37+00:00

I never see women trying to police themselves?

I see it on PPD plenty. There are plenty of women saying "rape really sucks, don't put yourself in a position ...."

Where did you formulate your idea that women don't ever police themselves or other women?

SlimLovin · 2018-04-09T17:28:58+00:00

?

In my experience, women tell each other these kinds of things all the time--especially the "dating bad men" part.

Also, who is brushing aside false rape accusations?

It seems like the internet has given you a skewed view of female/female relationships.

[deleted] · 2018-04-09T16:16:49+00:00

Oh trust me, women are busybodies who tell eachother what to do in their private lives. We all tried to get so-and-so to see the light but she married a felon anyway. Disaster resulted. But false rape accusations? I have never encountered any such.

rulenumber303 · 2018-04-09T16:35:24+00:00

I don’t hear women telling other women to stop using their sexuality to gain things

Trying to stop the sellers is a losing battle, the buyers just offer more until someone caves. Stop buying.

or to stop dating clearly bad men.

Are you kidding me? Young women are all the time discussing the sort of guys they and their friends date, looking for patterns, wondering what they should do different.

Even false rape accusations get brushed aside

Maybe it is just because I'm not in the USA and there's no underage college drinking culture here to speak of, no frats, keggers etc, but generally the girls I know who have been raped or whose rapes I hear about from mutual acquaintances aren't involved in the sort of incidents that MRAs are always going on about. There's a bunch of different narratives the MRAs think are so common that just don't feature at all in reality as I experience it. The last rape that had any impact on my life was years ago when someone I knew distantly got extradited to another state to face trial over a brutal rape of a prostitute he committed in the 90s... DNA evidence had finally caught up with him. It just isn't something that is part of my scene.

Priene · 2018-04-09T17:35:28+00:00

I never see women trying to police themselves? I don’t hear women telling other women to stop using their sexuality to gain things or to stop dating clearly bad men. Even false rape accusations get brushed aside why is that?

Has anyone ever told Arnold Scharzwnagger to stop making millions of his muscles? Has anyone told Ryan Gosling to god damn stop being so pretty, dude, you're manipulating women into giving you millions of dollars by going out to watch your movies. Bad man!

If a man wants to give gifts to women - why would women decline?

It's a gift. He wanted to offer it. Did he offer it hoping it would get him pussy? Why doesn't he go to a prostitute if he wants to exchange services?

to gain things or to stop dating clearly bad men.

Lmao. What is a bad man?

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2018-04-09T15:30:18+00:00

I don’t hear women telling other women to stop using their sexuality to gain things

why should women tell women to stop doing this?

philomexa · 2018-04-09T16:07:20+00:00

why would they do that? what could they possibly gain from it?

DaphneDK42 · 2018-04-10T01:37:34+00:00

Women shame each other constantly. Used to be that they slut-shamed (gotta keep up the value of pussy). Nowadays I see more women shame other women who choose to be things like stay-at-home moms (misery loves company).

TraditionalMeringue · 2018-04-10T07:27:16+00:00

Women call each other sluts all the time if they use their sexuality for an unfair advantage. I've called a woman a slut for doing that.
Just because 1 feminist website doesn't call out women for doing that, does not negate the MILLIONS of women who would immediately call a girl a ho for showing her cleavage to get an advantage

A math lesson :

1/10 women do X

This does not imply 100% of women do X

Understand?

Please tell me if this is too confusing.

Littleknownfacts · 2018-04-09T15:33:25+00:00

How do you know women aren't doing so? Are you often privy to girl-talk?

crackrocksteady7 · 2018-04-09T15:35:58+00:00

Even false rape accusations get brushed aside why is that?

Strong in group preference

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2018-04-09T15:33:25+00:00

dating 'bad men'? What is a bad man?

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AstuteBlackMan · 2018-04-09T19:53:27+00:00

A lot of Women do police each other. And look at how confused they are.

They just don't police each other in the correct things. They do it based on what they believe is correct.

Ordinate1 · 2018-04-09T20:52:00+00:00

I've seen Whoopi Goldberg do it a couple of times...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhCZ3xfS9Qw

mistercheeez-o____O- · 2018-04-09T22:54:28+00:00

Women police each other too much, but it seems to not always be for the right reasons nor for any moral imperative.

I would say that they coax many behaviours, and opinions from their gal pals with shaolin master levels of passive aggression, emotional and social threats.

It's ridiculous.

AND ANOTHER THING. Women!....I just don't understand the compulsion for them to hold each others hands and shit. Like aren't you adults? I haven't held a friends hand since I was like 5years old.

kandyapplez · 2018-04-09T23:31:32+00:00

we do. a huge part of female homosocial interaction is policing one another. but then again, i guess you wouldn't know that, not being a woman and all.

solorathain · 2018-04-10T00:10:02+00:00

Some women do police each other, in the form of shit-talking and feminism.

Eartherry · 2018-04-10T07:20:13+00:00

I do, but take the "baby bird" approach to both men and women when it comes to their dumbass behavior, you just got to let them go and hope they figure it out for themselves. I trust that adults can solve their own problems with enough time.

sedotta · 2018-04-10T10:09:15+00:00

I wouldn’t say I “police” anybody because it’s quite frankly not my business or responsibility. I will speak about issues that I personally see in the world, including ones involving women, and I will give and defend my opinion on what I think would be better. And I will not associate myself with behavior that I find morally questionable, if I can help it. But ultimately I have no interest in policing anybody’s behavior. I’m a very introverted and reserved kind of person and prefer to just kind of keep to myself and do my own thing. I mean, shit, this is a large part of the reason I don’t want kids!

I can’t make anybody else do anything, but I can at least make myself into the person I want to be. And ideally be a positive presence in the lives of the people around me. I believe that’s the most effective thing any of us can do. Shaming does not accomplish anything. Doing your thing and doing it well is what encourages social change. If I tell another woman “don’t treat your boyfriend like xyz,” it’s not going to do anything because the underlying reasoning for her doing so (because it’s the way that she feels produces ideal results) is still there. But if I treat my boyfriend in a different way, and she feels my relationship is more ideal, she may be inclined to rethink things. Most people are not very well motivated by simply being told what to do because everybody already has reasons for behaving the way they do. This is why “policing” doesn’t work.

[deleted] · 2018-04-09T16:38:15+00:00

Because they don't have to police themselves.

Title	[Q4All] why dont women police themselves?
Author	Jokengonzo
Upvotes	7
Comments	94
Date	April 9, 2018 3:28 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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