Definitions

Eastuss · 2017-10-30T15:35:43+00:00

This ain't /r/lgbt. Gender means your biological sex.

sublimemongrel · 2017-10-30T15:46:33+00:00

We have common terms on our sidebar:

https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2k8zk0/terms_acronyms/?st=J9ECWR8Z&sh=68896b3fhttps://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2k8zk0/terms_acronyms/?st=J9ECWR8Z&sh=68896b3f

Electra_Cute · 2017-10-30T15:41:22+00:00

Second, do you believe biological sex exists?

Yes I do. I use "female" to describe the female sex, and I use girl/woman as socio-biological concepts.

notworthmuch20xx · 2017-10-30T15:43:02+00:00

First, what's a woman

An adult human female

Second, do you believe biological sex exists?

Yes

Second, do you believe biological sex exists?

Gender relates to the performative aspects of sex. But sex is still the defining factor in calling someone a man or a woman

Mr_Smoogs · 2017-10-30T15:43:38+00:00

Formulating a sexual strategy that is successful is about choosing the statistically optimal path to what the vast majority of women find sexually attractive. Trans/queer debates are useless on this sub and rarely talked about because most humans identify with their biological sex.

We generally don't speak of non-binary or women and men who are trans. It is a useless debate because it doesn't increase your chances of getting laid or being in a happy relationship.

There are archetypes of men women are more attracted to than others. RP at its core is about building you into a man whom women are more attracted to than others.

For instance, gay men CHOOSE to become the archetypal effeminate gay male personality because that is what other gay men prefer. It is their own sexual strategy. Women in general are not attracted to the effeminate male personality. But they are often physically attracted to gay men, and by no coincidence, this is the only hyper-masculine thing about them.

Littleknownfacts · 2017-10-30T15:59:26+00:00

First, what's a woman, can you define the word clearly or give some examples and explain how these people qualify as women?

A person born with two X chromosomes and has female primary sex organs and at puberty, develops secondary sex characteristics.

Second, do you believe biological sex exists?

... Yes.

Third, can you explain clearly and objectively, such that someone who wasn't at all familiar with our culture could understand, what you mean by gender, and do you call being a man or woman, sex or gender?

Sex is the chromosome/primary sex organs you have from birth. Gender is the outward expression of certain roles usually assigned to one sex or the other.

Fourth, if you said yes to (2) and your answer for (1) wasn't "biologically female human adults", do you have a word for all human adults that are biologically female? If not, why don't you think we need one?

I mean, my answer for 1 pretty much was biologically female human adults... But women seems to be the word your looking for. Trans women are just that, Twomen. And trans men are tmen, that's it.

Princeso_Bubblegum · 2017-10-30T17:06:30+00:00

oh hai tfm, hows TERFing been going?

goatismycopilot · 2017-10-30T17:10:17+00:00

Wut? Why is this post here?

abaxeron · 2017-10-30T16:24:55+00:00

"Since you're discussing geometry here, can you define clearly the concepts of a point, a line, and a plane?"

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Afroaway002 · 2017-10-30T17:00:12+00:00

A woman is a person who self-identifies as a woman. Pretty straightforward.

Biological sexes exist.

Gender is one's performance of an identity that falls somewhere on the masculine-feminine spectrum. Gender does not have to correspond to biological sex.

I use the term female-bodied people.

BiggerDthanYou · 2017-10-30T18:47:14+00:00

First, what's a woman, can you define the word clearly or give some examples and explain how these people qualify as women?

Considering that transgender women don't exist as far as TRPs sexual strategy is concerned it's usually used for female cishet adult human (that isn't fat or ugly either) around here.

Depending on the topic it can also mean anyone who identifies/feels like a woman though.

Second, do you believe biological sex exists?

Who doesn't? People are born with XX or XY (or others) chromosomes and there's sexual dimorphism (for example penis/vagina). There's no one who denies that.

Third, can you explain clearly and objectively, such that someone who wasn't at all familiar with our culture could understand, what you mean by gender, and do you call being a man or woman, sex or gender?

Sex is biological. Gender is social.

Sex is your body, gender is your soul.

Your biological sex is a universal fact (in other words as a male you will have XY chromosomes no matter which culture you move to). You are male or female.

Gender is a social construct. This means that it isn't a universal fact, but that it depends on which culture you ask. Your gender status in a society can be man or woman (or whatever other genders exist in that culture).

Unlike sex your gender can change just by changing location. For example Catlin Jenner will be recognized as being a woman by cultures that determine gender based on identity, but as being a man by cultures that determine gender based on birth sex.

You can compare "sex and gender" to age and age groups.

Your age is a universal fact. No matter where on earth you go you will have been on earth the same amount of rotations of the earth around the sun.

Age groups (infant, child, teenager, adult, elderly) are social constructs. They are clearly based on biological factors, but the way they are determined (or even which age groups exist) differs from culture to culture. You can be an adult if you reach 18 or 21 or even after a rote of passage.

If you would say "this person is 18 therefore this person is an adult" this wouldn't be true all around the world and it's possible that they are still not an adult in some places. That's just like how saying "this person dresses, acts and talks like a woman, has a female name and identifies as a woman therefore she is a woman" wouldn't be true all around the world either because some cultures might say "but this person was born with a penis therefore will always be a man even if it doesn't make any sense"

Fourth, if you said yes to (2) and your answer for (1) wasn't "biologically female human adults", do you have a word for all human adults that are biologically female? If not, why don't you think we need one?

I don't think we need one.

TheGreasyPole · 2017-10-30T21:01:35+00:00

First, what's a woman, can you define the word clearly or give some examples and explain how these people qualify as women?

Is human, has vagina.

Second, do you believe biological sex exists?

Yes, it obviously does.

Third, can you explain clearly and objectively, such that someone who wasn't at all familiar with our culture could understand, what you mean by gender, and do you call being a man or woman, sex or gender?

There are two clear biological sexes. And a group that fits into to neither, but which has 1001 unique ways of not fitting in either.

Sometimes someone in the strange group wants to identify as a man or a woman and he can identify his/her gender that way if he wishes.

Sometimes someone from the clearly defined biological sex groups wants to change how they identify themselves and they can identify their gender the other way if they like.

Ultimately in biological sexes there are two... male and female... and a "neither" bucket.

With gender anyone can identify as whatever the hell they like, even terms they make up, and identify as that "gender" whenever the hell they feel like it, although many of them do change themselves to look more like that sex.

Fourth, if you said yes to (2) and your answer for (1) wasn't "biologically female human adults", do you have a word for all human adults that are biologically female? If not, why don't you think we need one?

The second clause doesn't apply to me. Humans with their own vagina are biological women.

Humans who are in the neither bucket, or who are male, can identify their gender as female if they wish. they can seek to look like and be treated like females if you want to accept that (as the person on the other end) but they can't be biological females.

Where's the fetus gonna gestate, you gonna keep it in a box ?

Title	Definitions
Author	_tfm
Upvotes	3
Comments	37
Date	October 30, 2017 3:29 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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