Male shit tests

HB3234 · 2017-10-04T16:37:48+00:00

I feel like you summed up the most common ones really well. I really liked this contribution, and I'm looking forward to more of your thoughts.

My ex gave me a lot of shit tests. Each them served to highlight how much he wanted out of me, but when I contrasted them with what was coming to the table, I ended that partnership. The tests only work if the class is worth passing.

In addition, I'd add a sex category. Although it can overlap with loyalty (trying to get a feel for attitudes on monogamy, cheating, etc), it can be unique in trying to gauge interest and receptivity to certain acts, frequency preferences, seeing if you are celebratory about sexuality, etc.

Finally, the piece below written by a man, so it has a more male-orientation but it talks about shit tests as things all humans do to all humans when trying to assess them- ex men "ball busting" each other.

It breaks women's tests down to dominance, compliance, and fitness; men wanting loyalty, compliance, and submission seems to fit nicely in turn. Although compliance and submission obviously overlap, I am making a clumsy attempt to distinguish between "will let him make decisions; not be a shrew" as submission and compliancd as "make decisions in line with our values" - please feel free to help me articulate this better.

https://illimitablemen.com/2014/12/14/the-shit-test-encyclopedia/

MetalDevils · 2017-10-04T16:08:51+00:00

Hi Jikira, great post!

Just a clarification, men don't shit test, it's called 'compliance testing.' As you mentioned, the things he tests you over have to do with your ability to fall in line, be loyal to him, and do what's best for him and the relationship.

The money examples, are his way of seeing how selfish and vain you are, if you are more interested in using his resources or if you are considerate. He gauges your morality, and your sense of duty.

The loyalty testing is not uncommon at all. Some men are even more subtle about it, where they don't even say anything, they just watch how a woman behaves around other people in different situations. He may act as though he doesn't care if his woman flirts or messes around, when really it's a hidden trap and he's waiting to see if she will remain loyal.

Another way to phrase the 'pressure' category is to replace it with the word 'control.' Many women gradually become more controlling and demanding of how their man dresses, behaves, talks, and even how he spends his time after they start dating. Your SO is wise to keep his eyes open and watch for shifts in your priorities and demands.

Great write up overall! The only thing that isn't accurate is the term 'shit test' when it should be 'compliance test.' :)

LateralThinker13 · 2017-10-06T21:34:40+00:00

One caveat. Shit testing and regular testing are two different things. Women shit-test because they are looking for a man to reject their bullshit and handle them like an alpha; if they fail to do so, they mark themselves as beta and make themselves less attractive.

Men test women - and other men - not with shit (a negative) but with responsibility/respectfulness (a positive). He wants to respect you, and you get a chance to demonstrate that you are worthy, or not.

In other words, a woman's shit test is a test to see if a man can handle the woman. A man's test is to see if a woman can handle herself.

Very different types of testing.

Rivkariver · 2017-10-04T19:27:39+00:00

How do you advise balancing accepting the ways he wants to spoil you and provide with also showing you will not be a crazy spender when you are married?

HB3234 · 2017-10-04T17:42:37+00:00

You're 1 million percent right about everything but the name. Shit testing (aka fitness testing for a more PG term, thanks to Athol Kay for coining that) is when a woman is seeing if a man is fit to lead. It's essentially testing to see if he's a "fake alpha," and it only happens if she's attracted to him to some degree.

Some of what you're describing are called compliance tests, which are when a man is seeing if a woman will go along with what he wants, and they're very much related to fitness tests. They differ in who is doing them (man vs. woman), why they are done and what passing them looks like.

Others of what you describe are generally called wife tests (or loyalty tests). They're the male analog to comfort tests that women give men, and they test things like loyalty or belief systems. Several examples of these are given on Ian Ironwood's Red Pill Room blog, and a lot of his material is already on the sidebar.

I could be persuaded to do a quick write-up of the four types of tests with examples for how they benefit or screen for women and their individual purposes if there's interest.

Sapphire_Jizz · 2017-10-05T05:31:19+00:00

In other words, men will put women in situations where they have to choose a certain course of action. They will observe these actions and draw conclusions about her character.

Because watch what they do, not what they say.

ReddJive · 2017-10-05T14:01:59+00:00

Call it what you will...This is RPW after all yet drawing a comparison to TRP concept is inaccurate.

/u/CaptNgrind is correct that that a shit test is a woman's why of making sure the man she is vetting or with is indeed the Alpha he makes himself out to be. They are at first brutal, and harsh but as the relationship grows and the man passes them they become fun and teasing. Jokes if you will. Shit testing happens all the time every day. The term makes them seem like a undesirable thing but in a relationship they are needed. If a man is not being shit tested then he needs to wonder what's up. When my girl shit tests me I enjoy it. It's fun. Sometimes I will purposely encourage them.

A woman scratches the paint, kicks the tires looking for a beta. It's the man's job to make sure there isn't one.

Qualifying, (false) disqualification, freeze outs, aloof assholery, dread game are all like male shit tests.

Differences are, these are more about changing her thoughts, female shit tests are more about gauging his reaction. And that too few guys do these, whereas female shit tests are instinctive.

Jikira · 2018-02-22T01:51:26+00:00

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bobdealin · 2022-05-20T02:30:34+00:00

Wonderful post.

Title	Male shit tests
Author	Jikira
Upvotes	60
Comments	25
Date	October 4, 2017 3:19 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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