A lot of Red Pillers will tell you that women shame alpha males , they call them douchebags and "bad fathers" even if that is true and that it's all part of the female plan to turn men into weak beta males.

The main people I've seen "shaming" alpha male club boys are other men who will tell you about how women only date douchebags even if they have no proof that these "douchebags" are actually bad people . It's actually pretty funny how morally superior some men think they are , to the point where they label as douchebag anyone who is good looking , sporty , or likes to go to clubs , in other words anyone who might be successful with women .