To curious purple pillers and blue pillers: this is exactly my reasoning for subscribing to TRP

wtknight · 2015-10-03T14:01:34+00:00

Red Pill's self-improvement advice for men is sound. Their advice that generalizes and belittles all women based upon bio-truths is not.

asdf_clash · 2015-10-03T06:24:55+00:00

Look you can do anything you want to get laid, even be an asshole. If TRP helps you improve your life and relationships, then by all means keep doing your thing. However, is it really that suprising that I dislike a group of people who think they are superior to me? Am I supposed to like a group of people who see little worth in me beyond being something to fuck? Why should I feel anything but contempt for a group of people who distort the truth in order to make women look bad? This stuff is even in the sidebar and parroted by the mods, so it's not just the angry noobs.

That stuff you say hurts. Not in a 'the truth hurts' sort of way, but in the way it hurts when you find out that your friend was talking bad about you behind your back. Previously I thought men and women were friends. I thought you guys liked us. Now I look at every guy and wonder if he thinks the same stuff I read on TRP. I'm not perfect but I want other people, especially men, to accept me as another human being. I wouldn't care if I didn't give a shit about what you guys thought.

Isn't reasonable for me to dislike you?

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[deleted] · 2015-10-03T16:58:43+00:00

Sure and women are more likely to get anorexia/bulimia/eating disorders...from being told attraction is EVERYTHING. I had a 6-year old the other day tell me she was fat. I've also had a friend pass away from anorexia at the age of 17. But like, sure women have it easy. We are trying to move away from that...but if you want little boys to get anorexia/bulimia (which is happening) and dying at 17, then so be it.

Yonderlander · 2015-10-03T21:35:29+00:00

OK, this is why I feel so strongly against the red Pill, in relation to (skimming) what you wrote:

The things you say about women are not true. I know they are not true because I am a woman and they are not true about me. I know lots of other women and they are not true about them.

Also you can't equate learning to behave in an attractive way to putting on makeup. Makeup etc only equates to male physical grooming. For all the mental confidence/ 'game' and so on that young men have to learn, women/girls also have to build up a mental arsenal of how to cope with male attention, how to walk the tightrope between being a desirable girlfriend/ 'good girl' and being a sexual being while not being viewed as a slut, internally or externally. It's hard and takes years to mentally master, even if we make it look effortless.

In a more general sense, the red pill says some really nasty, and untrue things about women. I was a single Mum for a while, and the bullshit RP says about single mothers is disgusting. And I stress, NOT TRUE.

taiboworks · 2015-10-03T11:11:50+00:00

"Because Miranda, women are taught from day one how to attract men. They learn how to put on eye liner to imitate fuller and longer eyelashes. They learn to pluck unwanted body hair. They learn to put on foundation to imitate flawless skin. They learn to wear low cut shirts to attract attention. They learn to wear lipstick, high heels, how to laugh at jokes, how to flirt. You were born into a society that grooms you to attract the opposite sex. They learn what men are attracted to is physical, youthful, beauty. Men are not taught a single thing about how to attract women and TRP is one of the few places where a man can learn what you were naturally taught - what attracts a woman.

this is ridiculous argument. you are describing a certain type of female here as if all females are like this. the male version of this argument would be that men are raised from day one to be attractive to women. they play sports, they exercise / stay fit, they play guitar, they learn about the advantages of being popular / likable. they have all these magazines, guides about fitness, pop culture, and finance/business, special clubs. they learn that women are attracted to athletic excellence, musical talent, financial success. it's all so easy for them, i have cosmo magazine telling me contradictory things on a monthly basis. my mom didn't teach me how to put makeup on. i crave food more than men because of my hormones, so it's harder to stay thin. i have to take birth control and that fucks with my mood. i'm literally bleeding out 15% of the time. men have it so much easier.

any male or female with a negative victim attitude can mispercieve how much easier the other gender has it and how much harder they have it. it's not reality.

Acknowledgement that there are some hateful men in there who are venting their sexual frustrations

don't forget red pill encourages that anger by saying it's normal and an essential part of trp, allowing anger/hate posts while banning lots of other posts and even certain words they don't approve of. anger is a core part of trp because they want it to be.

check out the top upvoted response to your post (which i think is a more concise version of your post)...

Interesting thoughts. But it's worse than you portray. Not only are men not taught how to attract girls, we're actively being misguided. 'Just be yourself', 'share your feelings', 'buy her presents'. That's why it's so effective. If you don't know something you naturally look for answers, which you will find through observation soon enough. But if you were fed lies you perceive as truths it turns you into a complacent idiot who thinks he himself is the problem. TRP isn't just some stuff you need to learn. It's the stuff that you need to unlearn that matters the most.

most unattractive men (and women) are just physically and or personality-wise unattractive, bad genetics, behavioral instincts that result in someone people don't find appealing. society can, should help with better mental health resources and fitness programs/facilities, but until we know why some people are crazy and/or physically unattractive, and how exactly to fix that, there will always be undesirables. that's not really society's fault and red piller's putting all the blame on society isn't accurate or constructive. if you are an undesirable, that doesn't mean you can't find a way to improve (somewhat) or find some joy in life regardless or that science might make a break through and help you out. acutane, for example, probably changed many people's lives.

Lastly, you're an idiot for mentioning TRP in real life. You're playing with fire and you will get burnt.

like race realism or any other hate ideology, yeah, you have to hide it. most people justifiably think trpers are lunatics. if you don't like that, don't be a trper. i wonder if on some level being a social outcast is something red pillers are attached to, so that's an appealing, familiar aspect about red pill.

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[deleted] · 2015-10-04T01:00:57+00:00

Don't worry that thread was already ridiculed over at TBP

Also, most top level answers to Q4BP are RP again. Sigh.

Title	To curious purple pillers and blue pillers: this is exactly my reasoning for subscribing to TRP
Author	pakleader
Upvotes	8
Comments	75
Date	October 3, 2015 4:21 AM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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