What SPECIFIC positive mannerisms, attitudes and style would you expect to find in a Redpiller? What are the negative ones you would expect to see?

Quintus_Pillus · 2015-07-03T23:17:26+00:00

i've never really thought about the specifics; being a homebody in a monogamous long term relationship nearly guarantees i won't run into most red pillers because we simply don't frequent the same places or share the same interests. i'm pretty good at recognizing if i've encountered someone i won't like or hit it off with, too, so i generally figure it'll be more of an 'i'll know it when i see it' situation.

i may need to think on specifics a while longer for the reasons mentioned above; may edit them in, may forget about it instead. i would imagine most of them to be persistent, talkative, and maybe boastful or teasing in initial interactions. i'm pretty withdrawn and find that a turn off or too abrasive depending on the execution, though, so because we seem to be fundamentally different, i don't foresee those interactions lasting long. even if i were single, this would be the case.

madscientistlove · 2015-07-03T20:55:57+00:00

I don't think I would be able to tell that he's a red piller. However, red flags that would (and in the past have) make me dislike a person at a party/bar/date are:

Negging
Acting pushy
More recently, not taking "sorry, I'm married" for a cue to stop hitting on me
Bragging about your job
Trying to convince me to have another drink when I've said no
"Subtly" bringing up other women (hello, dread game)
Being rude to the bartender/waiter/homeless person outside
Giving me shit about the book I'm reading
Demanding my attention when I'm clearly not interested in socializing with you
Says homophobic shit
Uses the words slut, whore, or bitch in a serious manner
Ridiculing feminists/feminism
Making racist or sexist jokes
Engaging in any form of rape apologetics
Grossed out by women who don't shave
Expressing an entitlement to traditional gender roles (preferring them is fine, but it means we are not compatible)

Again, not saying these are ALL or solely "red pill" traits, but they are all traits that will make me instantly annoyed with you or set off "PUA" bells in my head. Pretty sure they will also catch most red pillers. People generally show their true colors if you talk to them for long enough.

Edited for a few more bullet points

ToshiroOzuwara · 2015-07-03T22:50:26+00:00

So many questions along these lines lately. Am I correct in interpreting all the back and forth as:

BP: "ew, red pillers"

RP: "you'd never be able to tell you probably already fucked ten of us ha ha gotcha!"

Doesn't this basically boil down to how good of an actor the red piller in question is? Is RP Man X able to hide his RP proclivities entirely and well? If so, you may get some sweet ONS action with a BP lady. I guess I'm just not convinced that's a huge victory, given that said victory comes on the back of 'appearing to be someone very different from who you really are.' I mean, I'm sure a hardcore radfem with acting skillz could get into character as the perfect RPW unicorn, convince some RPer she's the woman for him and then, a few weeks later, suddenly rip off her mask and scream "ha ha I loved Andrea Dworkin this whole time suckaaa!" But so what? If you're good at fooling people, you can fool people, there's nothing particularly admirable about it, imo.

As for specific positive mannerisms and specific negative ones, well, I'll be honest. Positive ones - specific to RP? None. I don't know any RPers irl, all I know of you is from Reddit. On Reddit RP tends, with a few exceptions, to come across as defensive, insecure, angry, condescending and misogynist (I understand RP doesn't see themselves this way - I do, neither party is going to be able to convince the other one so there's no need to get into it here). I wouldn't expect them to be as overt about it irl, of course, but most women are going to know that a single man approaching them and trying to initiate conversation is trying to get into her pants (and I don't think there's anything wrong with men doing this, fwiw). My overwhelming reaction to approaches like that is polite, immediate shut down. I don't have ONS and I don't have any interest in wasting anyone's time. He'd be better off looking elsewhere, I'm doing us both a favour. If he happened to be the hottest man I'd ever laid eyes on, I might let him sit down but rest assured the shit tests would be flying thick and fast and not all men like that (some do - like me, some men love a good, hard conversational back and forth) and I wouldn't go home with him even if he passed them (I wouldn't go home with him especially if he passed them).

I also might casually mention some opinion of mine that aligns with red pill to gauge the reaction (or lack of it).

And it's theoretical anyway because I'm not part of the club scene and I'm not interested in ONS - as stated, they don't work for me.

CursedLemon · 2015-07-04T01:23:17+00:00

You're asking us to figure out who is who within the first two minutes of meeting someone? Well, that's pretty freakin' hard dude.

But I have to figure that a Red Piller is the kind of guy who doesn't accept defeat and just invites himself into your personal space, while you try to be as friendly as possible while you attempt to escape.

[deleted] · 2015-07-03T20:49:48+00:00

He is non apologetic for his views on politics or religion.
Older and not married.

Lots of red pill stuff is done within relationships or with plates. I don't think I can spot one immediately.

wombatinaburrow · 2015-07-05T09:21:52+00:00

Am a middle aged, married woman, so am very unlikely to be hit on. I plan on wording my daughters up on cocky, arrogant, sexist, racist, "girls are only good for one thing, and that makes them sluts" types so they know who to avoid.

[deleted] · 2015-07-03T20:37:58+00:00

It depends on the individual RPiller . I'm sure that some people who subscribe at TRP probably have no idea what they're doing while others might be fine.

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wtknight · 2015-07-04T15:00:18+00:00

Most men trying to pick up unfamiliar women use some aspect of Red Pill philosophy whether they know anything about Red Pill or not. Red Pill is just about trying to perfect these techniques down into a science and eventually an art once one gets good enough at it. I think the way I'd notice a Red Pill guy at a bar or party is if he pursued pick-up artistry with a religious zeal despite his rejections from several women. The average guy who is rejected by an attractive woman will develop some negative feelings, get discouraged, start going for women with a lesser SMV, etc. A Red Pill guy, on the other hand, has shielded off his emotions by a strict adherence to Red Pill philosophy. His efforts will eventually work because he has faith in them. Said man will probably be rejected several times but he will never lose faith and when you notice this, that's when you know he's a Red Piller.

sibeliushelp · 2015-07-06T00:10:27+00:00

idk how you'd tell they were "redpillers" as opposed to garden variety sexists unless they were spewing memes specific to this site.

sohamster · 2015-07-03T20:53:07+00:00

Without actual stats of 100,000 people, you are asking for stereotypes. I would assume there would be an age range from teens to seniors. I assume most would be into bodybuilding. The body types would probably vary, so I would wait until they extolled the virtues of lifting. I would assume they would walk away the moment they realized they would not be getting a BJ or wild sex.

GridReXX · 2015-07-04T10:31:44+00:00

My honest opinion.

Anyone who worships TRP and anally follows all of the scripts as if it's some godly revelation will probably come off as "lacking" during an "approach."

How much his approach is believable and attractive to her probably correlates to how much he actually needs TRP and/or views it as a crutch.

Title	What SPECIFIC positive mannerisms, attitudes and style would you expect to find in a Redpiller? What are the negative ones you would expect to see?
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Date	July 3, 2015 8:35 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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