Is there anything on TRP or the Manosphere/PUA sites in general which RPs on PPD do not condone?

ringydingy · 2014-10-22T13:41:26+00:00

I myself tend to ignore anything similar to the "Women are mental teenagers" theories that get thrown around. I also take AWALT with a huge grain of salt.

As far as your listed examples, I would condone them, but obviously the Thermonuclear option is a last ditch effort and a desperation play.

fiat_lux_ · 2014-10-22T13:13:39+00:00

I think we've again got a confusion of two different things:

(a) statements about what "works" and doesn't "work" - statements that at least purport to be descriptive, and

(b) statements about what is or isn't morally acceptable

So let's take the Thermonuclear Option. In context on the Heartiste post, it actually looks like a piece of over-the-top humor. But if we take it seriously, it's one bit of advice on how to save a relationship that's fallen apart. Have an affair - making the "dread" absolutely unambiguous - and then throw the cards on her table.

What this post suggests is that doing this will "work" for some hypothetical imperative- re-igniting attraction and respect in a relationship that's failed.

What this post doesn't suggest is anything about the moral rectitude of this action. It doesn't say you should do it, it doesn't say you shouldn't do it.

Personally, I'm of the mind that having an affair is 100% dead wrong and unjustifiable in virtually every circumstance. But RP theories are not, at their core, about how people should act.

I think that's at the heart of so much of the debate in PPD:

RPers state that they believe X is the case;
BPers state why X should not be the case or otherwise pontificate about the moral implications of X.

duckducklandwhale · 2014-10-22T15:07:38+00:00

Nope. Every man is responsible for their own soul. Im not perturbed like some others by the notion of an exchange of information. Similarly as people are not compelled to put certain actions into play. The same people with that free will, will experience the consequences good or bad and they themselves can determine if it's conducive to their accomplishing their desires, goals, or direction.

[deleted] · 2014-10-22T15:32:26+00:00

Don't use rape for every damn problem. Rape is a violation of the body, rapine is violation of property.

[deleted] · 2014-10-22T17:37:43+00:00

Well, I'm more MGTOW than TRP. So I guess you could say I disagree with the application of it, or rather I know it's not for me.

exit_sandman · 2014-10-22T13:56:25+00:00

We already had a comparable topic not too long ago.

Here's my answer.

LifterofThings · 2014-10-22T23:29:44+00:00

Nah, situationally, there's nothing I disagree with. The trick is to calibrate your techniques properly. There's no need to go thermonuclear on a sweet, respectful woman who's not giving you any grief. If (for whatever reason-- admittedly I don't see the appeal) you want to hang onto a woman who's being a brat, testing your boundaries, and being disrespectful... I think a hearty dose of reality and dominance (in the form of a really overt "look, I have options and if you want me to stick around, you'd better shape the fuck up") could be pretty effective.

Xemnas81 · 2014-10-22T14:31:20+00:00

Why do you all keep trying to inject your made up, baseless morality into TRP. TRP is not a moral position, its not about "should" and "ought" and whether anyone condones or condemns a behavior. Its about what works, that's it.

Archwinger · 2014-10-22T15:16:24+00:00

TRP tends to downvote and discourage posts about beating or raping women. I'm against TRP's anti rape and anti beating stance. Beating is amoral. Getting caught and punished for "hate crimes" and "medical expenses" is just a social construct. Men are literally being money and time-raped by lawsuits and prison sentences.

Title	Is there anything on TRP or the Manosphere/PUA sites in general which RPs on PPD do not condone?
Author	Xemnas81
Upvotes	3
Comments	92
Date	October 22, 2014 12:55 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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