Time and attention my only ammo

ChokingDownRP · 2019-12-08T15:53:20+00:00

Focus on saving you, not the marriage. It's still about her, but at least you're aware that it shouldn't be about her.

RStonePT · 2019-12-08T18:10:05+00:00

It's Attention, Affection, Commitment, and those tools only have teeth commensurate with your value

PillUpAss · 2019-12-08T15:49:31+00:00

You’re running a nice Dancing Monkey Improvement Programme plus your SMV is still way too low. Fix those and the rest of your life will fall into place, with or without the wife.

AlohaMaui808 · 2019-12-08T16:32:49+00:00

You have low SMV and she isn't attracted. Fix that and you solve a lot of issues. Removing time and attanetion only works if she is addicted to the Feelz and tingles you provide.

If she isn't addicted to you, it's your fault. Be attractive not unattractive.

weakandsensitive · 2019-12-08T20:28:59+00:00

You're seeking her approval in all your actions.

Not once have you asked "What value is she bringing to my life that deserve these efforts?"

Which means -- she has exactly 0 reasons to give a fuck about you.

VengefullyY0urs · 2019-12-08T19:23:39+00:00

There is a lot of advice stating you need to raise your SMV (and you probably should), but you are also going up against her perceived SMV of you.

This can be crippling. You can lift, get your style on point, and objectively go from a 4 to a 7, but your wife will still see that 4 every time she looks at you.

At this point, it seems only blatant pre-selection can turn the tide, meaning hotter younger woman are throwing themselves at you in front of her or the Hail Mary: she finds you cheating with a hotter, younger girl, and none of these are guarantees.

Rule of thumb is if you are getting real IOIs, offers or sex from woman with higher SMVs, then your SMV is actually where it needs to be. At that point if your wife isn’t reacting, nothing will save it, but at that point, there is little reason to continue with her when you can get what you need from someone more invested in you elsewhere.

Wagzdaddy · 2019-12-08T21:38:26+00:00

So... you’re angry your wife hasn’t changed. Covert contract and all that. Great that you recognize it.

Use that anger to fuel you and drive you. You’re LARPing. Because while you can tell yourself you DNGAF but you definitely still give a fuck.

It’s not a “problem” so much as it is a stage in your journey. Keep focusing on yourself and drive that improvement.

Do not do anything retarded at this point.

Once you get to the point of really NGAF / apathy then you can start making some decisions. Until then. Keep grinding.

BobbyPeru · 2019-12-08T23:16:48+00:00

So you are going to punish her into wanting to fuck You instead of becoming fun and fuckable?

Good luck with that.

JDRoedell · 2019-12-08T16:04:58+00:00

Sounds like sex isn’t important to her. It is to you. Make sure she knows that. Your frame is, “I’ll be having sex... you can be involved or not.”

Edit; this of course assuming you’re as high quality as you think first.

FoxShitNasty83 · 2019-12-08T16:17:06+00:00

Fuck all that.... How are you lifts and body fat?

3 months ago: Stats: 5’10” 170lbs. Squat: 210 OH press:100 Deadlift: 250 Bench: 140 Row: 130

RedPillGlasses · 2019-12-08T17:01:16+00:00

Lifts have increased slightly

So you’re not lifting faggot.

Body fat is 18%

So you have a beer gut and you’re working on getting man boobs.

My financials suck

So you’re broke or in a dead end job.

I own shit around the house, cause I hate when things are messy

Good job faggot, she can hire a maid for what your provide.

I wouldn’t fuck you either.

learning0007 · 2019-12-08T16:22:31+00:00

I'm not convinced you're doing all the work. Sounds like you're stuck on the alpha stuff. Than you get into all these acronyms that don't make alot of sense. Not to mention, sounds like the only dread game you are using is fear. Correct me I'm wrong guys, but isn't part of being alpha that you make them feel all the emotions, good and bad, so they submit

learning0007 · 2019-12-08T16:40:55+00:00

Here's what I recommend. You seemed to think that if you act like a big enough asshole, which counsel to interpret as alpha, she'll be licking your balls. My advice is to go back to the sidebar and start at step 1 which is to lift, and read all the books, and pray to fucking God that you don't get divorce raped and be left holding onto your own dick. Wtf

screechhater · 2019-12-11T09:01:18+00:00

Stop living and breathing for her to notice you.

You are 43 ?

Cast iron frame, dread, and comfort. SMV and HV. Get it together. You are not scratching the surface of the work, you will know the moment you do, as in the unbuckling of your pants will be from her hands

Whatev22 · 2019-12-08T15:44:09+00:00

U/LongRoad_518 gave you the answer last time you posted

learning0007 · 2019-12-08T15:39:05+00:00

So it hasn't gotten better from 3 months ago in the original thread?

RedPillGlasses · 2019-12-08T16:57:08+00:00

I’ve read your previous posts. You don’t sound like a faggot too much, but you’re missing body statistics in most of them.

You’re 5’10”, what is your weight and body fat?

What are your lifts?

If you’re skinny fat I think we have the answer to your problems.

slappysq · 2019-12-08T17:37:24+00:00

What are your lifts and bf%?

Wagzdaddy · 2019-12-08T23:01:19+00:00

This entire thread has grounded me. What a crazy journey. Bear with me for a moment.

I get IOIs and could pull younger pussy. Have a couple younger women I could seal the deal with. She was with me a week or so back when a hot 24 year old I flirt with came up and hugged me at the bar in front of her. She didn’t say anything and no signs of any jealousy or results from preselection. I’ve since gone back to the brewery with friends.

Fast forward to last night and she’s being bratty so I tickled and pulled her bun on her hair as I do sometimes and she freaks and hits me a couple times on the arm. She says she almost decided to hit me in the face. She demands I say I understand she doesn’t like me tickling her and I go silent but eventually say “I got it” we go out to the movie as planned. I flirt with a kiss and ass grab in line for popcorn she smiles and is flirty and calmed down.

Later I initiate and shes cold and angry when I do, as usual lately. No attraction is how I see it. I say I want to fuck my hot wife. She says get it over with so I don’t bother her in the morning. Been down this road and say no thanks not interested having sex with an uninterested wife. Roll over go back to my phone and write out this OP. Not at all showing anger just determination. She’s watching tv and I sat calmly that I’m going to sleep in the living room which I sometimes do because I have to get up early for work.

I come home this afternoon, after reading and internalizing all the input here, between shifts to make some lunch to take with me. I thought about a little comfort maybe a good hug. I find her on the couch and say come with me she smiles and makes a joke “should I bring this needle with me”. I take her in the bedroom and tell her I regret my actions yesterday. That’s it. She says thats sweet. And we hug and kiss like we haven’t in awhile. Full of passion. Insane passion. Which leads to extremely passionate fucking.

Now I’m going to put this to rest and not analyze but what is in play here? Hysterical bonding after extreme emotions the night before? A little dread maybe with me typing away and practicing OI? Again your comments are on point. And you are correct this is a journey and I cannot do dancing monkey anymore

Title	Time and attention my only ammo
Author	Wagzdaddy
Upvotes	15
Comments	99
Date	December 8, 2019 3:23 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/askMRP
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